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Offaly u20s in to the Leinster final. They'll play Wexford. Offaly have come from tier 2 in Leinster so we're forced to win a group of 4, then a qf and semi. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 253 - 10/05/2023 20:49:01 2477433 Link
Congrats to Offaly under 20s on last night's defeat of Dublin. I'd fancy them to win the final against the Cats too, Coming nicely under the radar similar to the minors last year. Dreadful display by Dublin but much of that was due to Offaly's control of the game with and against a very strong win. Good luck in final. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2584 - 11/05/2023 08:54:36 2477476 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Congrats to Offaly under 20s on last night's defeat of Dublin. I'd fancy them to win the final against the Cats too, Coming nicely under the radar similar to the minors last year. Dreadful display by Dublin but much of that was due to Offaly's control of the game with and against a very strong win. Good luck in final." I wouldn't fancy them to win the final against the Cats Barney................. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1138 - 11/05/2023 09:48:54 2477488 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Congrats to Offaly under 20s on last night's defeat of Dublin. I'd fancy them to win the final against the Cats too, Coming nicely under the radar similar to the minors last year. Dreadful display by Dublin but much of that was due to Offaly's control of the game with and against a very strong win. Good luck in final." Cats? LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2492 - 11/05/2023 09:49:55 2477491 Link
Replying To skirge7: "Offaly u20s in to the Leinster final. They'll play Wexford. Offaly have come from tier 2 in Leinster so we're forced to win a group of 4, then a qf and semi." Last year was a good one for Offaly minors, this year looks promising for their u20s and are now in to the Leinster final, their seniors are on the cusp of clinching the Joe Mc Donagh cup, it's all going well for Offaly hurling at the min, I think it's now safe to make them favourites. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 11/05/2023 10:33:35 2477514 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Cats?" Sorry.... Wexford! Stockholm syndrome about the stripey men :-) Well done to Wexford too. Sounded like a cracker. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2584 - 11/05/2023 10:59:13 2477531 Link
Replying To skirge7: "Offaly u20s in to the Leinster final. They'll play Wexford. Offaly have come from tier 2 in Leinster so we're forced to win a group of 4, then a qf and semi." I'm not sure being in Tier 2 was really that much of a disadvantage; if you're a Tier 1 calibre team, then you should breeze through Tier 2 with no issues. But the format is itself a bit stupid and the Wexford/Galway/Kilkenny/Dublin group was a bit of a Phoney War as there was a complete lack of jeopardy. 2 groups of 4 would be my proposal, with the 1st in each group going to the SFs and 2nd then playing off against 3rd in the other group. Could have groups like this: Wexford Dublin Galway Laois Offaly Kilkenny Westmeath Antrim ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 273 - 11/05/2023 13:27:30 2477590 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "I'm not sure being in Tier 2 was really that much of a disadvantage; if you're a Tier 1 calibre team, then you should breeze through Tier 2 with no issues. But the format is itself a bit stupid and the Wexford/Galway/Kilkenny/Dublin group was a bit of a Phoney War as there was a complete lack of jeopardy. 2 groups of 4 would be my proposal, with the 1st in each group going to the SFs and 2nd then playing off against 3rd in the other group. Could have groups like this: Wexford Dublin Galway Laois Offaly Kilkenny Westmeath Antrim" Galway definitely found themselves more 'jeopardy' than they could handle in that competition 2023. Lost more games in it, than they didn't lose. Good job there was no relegation, or dare I say, reelection!! Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3460 - 11/05/2023 14:30:30 2477627 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Galway definitely found themselves more 'jeopardy' than they could handle in that competition 2023. Lost more games in it, than they didn't lose. Good job there was no relegation, or dare I say, reelection!!" Think you only beat a Wexford selection Pope? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12057 - 11/05/2023 15:07:51 2477643 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "I'm not sure being in Tier 2 was really that much of a disadvantage; if you're a Tier 1 calibre team, then you should breeze through Tier 2 with no issues. But the format is itself a bit stupid and the Wexford/Galway/Kilkenny/Dublin group was a bit of a Phoney War as there was a complete lack of jeopardy. 2 groups of 4 would be my proposal, with the 1st in each group going to the SFs and 2nd then playing off against 3rd in the other group. Could have groups like this: Wexford Dublin Galway Laois Offaly Kilkenny Westmeath Antrim" I would say it's a major disadvantage, After winning 4 games to get to preliminary QF Offaly have to beat 3 "tier 1" on their first go to win the championship. The tier 1 teams have to beat only 2 tier 1 teams. Wexford could win the Championship having only beaten 1 tier one team (Kilkenny) and 2 tier 2 teams (Offaly and Westmeath). Wexford also lost to Galway and Dublin. Offaly beat Westmeath, Antrim, Meath and Kildare who are tier 2, and Beat Galway and Dublin who are tier 1. Wexford beat Kilkenny, lost to Galway and Dublin. Finished bottom of group. Beat Westmeath who are tier 2. Beat Kilkenny. So essentially to make the final Wexford (or any tier 1 teams) only had to beat a tier 2 team in the QF and a tier 1 team in the SF. Offaly had to beat 4 tier 2 teams and 2 tier 1 teams skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 253 - 12/05/2023 13:17:05 2477860 Link
Replying To skirge7: "I would say it's a major disadvantage, After winning 4 games to get to preliminary QF Offaly have to beat 3 "tier 1" on their first go to win the championship. The tier 1 teams have to beat only 2 tier 1 teams. Wexford could win the Championship having only beaten 1 tier one team (Kilkenny) and 2 tier 2 teams (Offaly and Westmeath). Wexford also lost to Galway and Dublin. Offaly beat Westmeath, Antrim, Meath and Kildare who are tier 2, and Beat Galway and Dublin who are tier 1. Wexford beat Kilkenny, lost to Galway and Dublin. Finished bottom of group. Beat Westmeath who are tier 2. Beat Kilkenny. So essentially to make the final Wexford (or any tier 1 teams) only had to beat a tier 2 team in the QF and a tier 1 team in the SF. Offaly had to beat 4 tier 2 teams and 2 tier 1 teams" Your teamwork, gameplans, and big game experience are therefore far ahead of ours. On top of the fact that you beat 2 teams, Dublin and Galway, that beat us. Thats why down here many of us have you as favourites. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12057 - 12/05/2023 13:27:25 2477862 Link
Replying To skirge7: "I would say it's a major disadvantage, After winning 4 games to get to preliminary QF Offaly have to beat 3 "tier 1" on their first go to win the championship. The tier 1 teams have to beat only 2 tier 1 teams. Wexford could win the Championship having only beaten 1 tier one team (Kilkenny) and 2 tier 2 teams (Offaly and Westmeath). Wexford also lost to Galway and Dublin. Offaly beat Westmeath, Antrim, Meath and Kildare who are tier 2, and Beat Galway and Dublin who are tier 1. Wexford beat Kilkenny, lost to Galway and Dublin. Finished bottom of group. Beat Westmeath who are tier 2. Beat Kilkenny. So essentially to make the final Wexford (or any tier 1 teams) only had to beat a tier 2 team in the QF and a tier 1 team in the SF. Offaly had to beat 4 tier 2 teams and 2 tier 1 teams" I did say previously that it was absurd system and while I am disappointed that Dublin did not at least reach the final - and they were very much fancied - Offaly are to be commended highly on what they have don in both 20s and senior this year. (My goodwill might not survive a possible prelim senior quarter final :-) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2584 - 12/05/2023 13:29:03 2477863 Link
Hopefully Offaly will get a big support for their first ever McDonagh final and the home preliminary quarter-final to follow. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 12/05/2023 16:24:31 2477929 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Hopefully Offaly will get a big support for their first ever McDonagh final and the home preliminary quarter-final to follow." Offaly always get great support in big games Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12057 - 13/05/2023 06:33:02 2477987 Link
Question is the cormac egan playing with the 20 hurlers the same fella that is an outstanding football talent?? CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2228 - 13/05/2023 15:42:36 2478074 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Question is the cormac egan playing with the 20 hurlers the same fella that is an outstanding football talent??" Ya same guy skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 253 - 13/05/2023 16:40:39 2478085 Link
Thanks for that. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2228 - 13/05/2023 20:01:04 2478121 Link
If Offaly win the Leinster U20 final, the Offaly senior hurlers in the McDonagh final will be curtain raiser for their U20 team in the U20 All-Ireland final? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 15/05/2023 20:42:21 2478820 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "If Offaly win the Leinster U20 final, the Offaly senior hurlers in the McDonagh final will be curtain raiser for their U20 team in the U20 All-Ireland final?" That's not the problem. It's that these would be two finals that Offaly would very much like to win. And there are some guys who Offaly would like available for both matches. Hogansatnd now reporting offaly will ask for a U20 postponement if they win Leinster. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 253 - 17/05/2023 08:45:56 2479145 Link
Replying To skirge7: "That's not the problem. It's that these would be two finals that Offaly would very much like to win. And there are some guys who Offaly would like available for both matches. Hogansatnd now reporting offaly will ask for a U20 postponement if they win Leinster." Sensible. The McDonagh final however will be on its own in Croke Park. Not ideal either but what can they do? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 17/05/2023 09:40:09 2479153 Link