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I'm going to make one point. The talent Conor Mac has was proven just before he went off man was really struggling with his leg but the point he scored was outstanding more so when he was injured
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Massive improvement on the Clare game.
Really we should have won but with Matt, Damien,Mac, Mogie gone and Dee put in full forward unable to play his sweeper role, it was always going to be a big ask.
I was very pleased with the attitude of the team compared with two weeks ago. They tackled hard, never gave up and gave Cork plenty to think about throughout. I have no doubt that we would have won if we didn't pick up those injuries. What rotten luck. Hopefully the lads will recover quickly and give a good performance in Limerick next Sunday.
In an earlier post I had tipped Cork to win by 8 points. I was so glad to be wrong.
Special word on Lee Chin, what a player he is. In my opinion he was man of the match by a distance.
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Replying To hunting: "Is cian molloy of gorey with the under 20?were they missing any one yesterday?in the senior game what was very obvious is the importance of having Chin and O Hanlon back" Cian Molloy isn't u20 any more. Don't think they were missing anyone.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15592 - 13/03/2023 12:22:13
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "How did Eoin Whelan go at full back lads? Impressed with the minors a couple of years ago, big man which is obviously no harm." Played well TerribleFootwork. All the backs did.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15592 - 13/03/2023 12:22:40
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "I'm going to make one point. The talent Conor Mac has was proven just before he went off man was really struggling with his leg but the point he scored was outstanding more so when he was injured" He has talent to burn. I guess that's why so much is expected of him.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15592 - 13/03/2023 12:24:18
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Replying To Magpie2: "Massive improvement on the Clare game.
Really we should have won but with Matt, Damien,Mac, Mogie gone and Dee put in full forward unable to play his sweeper role, it was always going to be a big ask.
I was very pleased with the attitude of the team compared with two weeks ago. They tackled hard, never gave up and gave Cork plenty to think about throughout. I have no doubt that we would have won if we didn't pick up those injuries. What rotten luck. Hopefully the lads will recover quickly and give a good performance in Limerick next Sunday.
In an earlier post I had tipped Cork to win by 8 points. I was so glad to be wrong.
Special word on Lee Chin, what a player he is. In my opinion he was man of the match by a distance." Think so. Followed by Matt and Rory Higgins
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15592 - 13/03/2023 12:59:51
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Replying To Viking66: "He has talent to burn. I guess that's why so much is expected of him." That's the frustrating thing and we don't utilise him. I'm sure exiled is having a good giggle at this forum today. Was talking to a players father (won't name names ) but he was saying his young fella is absolutely wrecked and is shattered after training straight to bed. So I presume they are doing massive training
Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 361 - 13/03/2023 13:00:16
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm another who was wondering about that. In my view, it was the very definition of a black card offence - a deliberate foul to prevent a goal-scoring opportunity.
The rule is still on the books all right, but it seems it's only very rarely implemented. Having said that, there was a black card in Limerick v Westmeath yesterday for an offence I thought was far less clearcut than the Mogie incident.
Overall, I'm generally reluctant to criticise referees, but I really do think we got short shrift more than once yesterday. Even when he chose to blow the final whistle grated a bit. Okay, there was roughly 5:30 of additional time gone, but the signal had been for at least five minutes, and there'd been about 90 seconds to two minutes of stoppages in that first five.
Even if the Cork shot had dropped wide and the whistle blew on the puck-out would have been bad enough, but considering Lawlor collected the ball, soloed out a bit, and then launched it up the field - all in the same passage of play - I thought it was bit rich to blow the whistle as the ball soared in towards our forwards." The worst call for me yesterday was the blatant barge by the Cork defender in the lead up to the free for there 2nd goal not been called, for the sake of balance I taught Cork's Jack O'Connor was unlucky to get send off, he deserved his 2nd yellow but his 1st was never a yellow, only got it cause Dee got hurt in the collision.
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "I'm going to make one point. The talent Conor Mac has was proven just before he went off man was really struggling with his leg but the point he scored was outstanding more so when he was injured" Full forward line looked more dangerous without him
grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 180 - 13/03/2023 13:23:43
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Pride restored for you lads, unlike Dublin who are licking our wounds today.
The intensity was there from the word go. Not panic, just anger and controlled aggression, hassling. The stuff that makes a backs life hell and is the basic expectation at that level. It should be that way every day, not just yesterday because players were angry. They need to be angry every day.
There were several questionable refereeing decisions but some of the Cork players diving was as blatant as anything I have seen. I think Wexford need to join them, the day of honesty is gone in the GAA and every county is now diving for frees (including a few Wexford players...)
That free at the end should have gone the other way but referees never blow for charging any more. Possibly blind sighted but where is the linesman? But it was not good defending for the Cork player to ghost in to the middle while Wexford players all converged on the ball.
I thought all Wexford players stepped up to their credit, but it does still show how much Wexford need Chin, O'Hanlon, O'Keefe (who was outstanding for me dropping back to protect the backs and bombing up the field) and Kevin Foley and how much they could use Paraic Foley. The subs are just not able replacements.
Hearne and McGuckin both are good ball winners but both still need to bulk up more. Rory Higgins the same, but they all to their credit stuck to the job yesterday. I too would not have took Rory Higgins off.
But still, Wexford had 2-3 shots on goal in the whole game. To me, they won't out-point many teams and need to get Rory O'Connor close to goal.
I am not up to speed with Cork players as I don't see much of them but except Horgan were they missing more yesterday?
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1334 - 13/03/2023 13:28:25
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Pride restored for you lads, unlike Dublin who are licking our wounds today.
The intensity was there from the word go. Not panic, just anger and controlled aggression, hassling. The stuff that makes a backs life hell and is the basic expectation at that level. It should be that way every day, not just yesterday because players were angry. They need to be angry every day.
There were several questionable refereeing decisions but some of the Cork players diving was as blatant as anything I have seen. I think Wexford need to join them, the day of honesty is gone in the GAA and every county is now diving for frees (including a few Wexford players...)
That free at the end should have gone the other way but referees never blow for charging any more. Possibly blind sighted but where is the linesman? But it was not good defending for the Cork player to ghost in to the middle while Wexford players all converged on the ball.
I thought all Wexford players stepped up to their credit, but it does still show how much Wexford need Chin, O'Hanlon, O'Keefe (who was outstanding for me dropping back to protect the backs and bombing up the field) and Kevin Foley and how much they could use Paraic Foley. The subs are just not able replacements.
Hearne and McGuckin both are good ball winners but both still need to bulk up more. Rory Higgins the same, but they all to their credit stuck to the job yesterday. I too would not have took Rory Higgins off.
But still, Wexford had 2-3 shots on goal in the whole game. To me, they won't out-point many teams and need to get Rory O'Connor close to goal.
I am not up to speed with Cork players as I don't see much of them but except Horgan were they missing more yesterday?" I think Dublin will be targeting Wexford in Parnell big time, for whatever reason Dublin seem to have a complete physiological barrier now with Kilkenny, think they've lost every league and championship encounter since 2015 or 16 alot of heavy defeats too, that barrier doesn't seem to be there with Galway or Wexford.
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Pride restored for you lads, unlike Dublin who are licking our wounds today.
The intensity was there from the word go. Not panic, just anger and controlled aggression, hassling. The stuff that makes a backs life hell and is the basic expectation at that level. It should be that way every day, not just yesterday because players were angry. They need to be angry every day.
There were several questionable refereeing decisions but some of the Cork players diving was as blatant as anything I have seen. I think Wexford need to join them, the day of honesty is gone in the GAA and every county is now diving for frees (including a few Wexford players...)
That free at the end should have gone the other way but referees never blow for charging any more. Possibly blind sighted but where is the linesman? But it was not good defending for the Cork player to ghost in to the middle while Wexford players all converged on the ball.
I thought all Wexford players stepped up to their credit, but it does still show how much Wexford need Chin, O'Hanlon, O'Keefe (who was outstanding for me dropping back to protect the backs and bombing up the field) and Kevin Foley and how much they could use Paraic Foley. The subs are just not able replacements.
Hearne and McGuckin both are good ball winners but both still need to bulk up more. Rory Higgins the same, but they all to their credit stuck to the job yesterday. I too would not have took Rory Higgins off.
But still, Wexford had 2-3 shots on goal in the whole game. To me, they won't out-point many teams and need to get Rory O'Connor close to goal.
I am not up to speed with Cork players as I don't see much of them but except Horgan were they missing more yesterday?" All regulars from last year that were missing yesterday were Damien Cahalane, Conor Lehane, Darragh Fitzgibbon, Tim O'Mahony, Robbie O'Flynn, Patrick Horgan, Sean O'Donoghue, and Alan Connolly
Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 644 - 13/03/2023 13:59:16
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We lost because we only scored 18 points. That won't win many matches. Chin scored 9 of those. yes Rory will (hopefully) be back, but we haven't enough scoring power, and we don't create many goalscoring chances.
McGuckian & Hearne work their socks off, but are 1-2 point a game wing forwards. Oisin Foley is similar. Rory came on with 10 to go, was on the edge of the square 1-on-1 with space on the left in particular,, but we never threw a direct ball into the full-forward line.
Our sideline pucks are also a real issue. I counted 7 in the first half alone, and we gained clean possession off none of them. It's a liability when we get a sideline now. we got some in attacking positions, but never committed more than one man into the goal area until we needed a goal in dirt-time.
Hugely encouraging attitude, work rate, a bunch of turnovers. Dee was magnificent, seemed to cover the entire width of the pitch. I've wondered if O'Hanlon would be cut out for full back for years, and he certainly looked the part yesterday. Tighter than Liam Ryan has become, and very sure all day. It could free Ryan for a half-back role, he has the hurling and the mobility.
I thought Matt's injury was ankle, hopefully very sore rather than very serious. Was Damien Reck's a hamstring? He's essential to the team. Shane Reck outstanding, Donohoe good too, but the wing-backs looked works in progress still. Conor Foley rightly hurled with the U-20's yesterday, but he is currently holding a senior jersey for my money.
Corey Byrne-Dunbar can't be far behind, although Dwyer and Higgins did impress yesterday.
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Replying To Midleton: "All regulars from last year that were missing yesterday were Damien Cahalane, Conor Lehane, Darragh Fitzgibbon, Tim O'Mahony, Robbie O'Flynn, Patrick Horgan, Sean O'Donoghue, and Alan Connolly" Pa Horgan a regular last year?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15592 - 13/03/2023 14:30:26
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "That's the frustrating thing and we don't utilise him. I'm sure exiled is having a good giggle at this forum today. Was talking to a players father (won't name names ) but he was saying his young fella is absolutely wrecked and is shattered after training straight to bed. So I presume they are doing massive training" They are
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15592 - 13/03/2023 14:31:17
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "That's the frustrating thing and we don't utilise him. I'm sure exiled is having a good giggle at this forum today. Was talking to a players father (won't name names ) but he was saying his young fella is absolutely wrecked and is shattered after training straight to bed. So I presume they are doing massive training" He is perhaps the most talented stick player on the team but this talk of we don't use him is not true, a player also needs to work to get the ball - what do you want, the ball delivered on a silver platter to him every time - no other forward in the country gets that. If its accepted that he has to be there as a goal threat, that means than the lads around him have to work harder than other forwards do - its a management decision and the players obviously buy into it. However we do lack options and that could very well be because we haven't seriously contemplated anything else for a number of years now.
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Replying To wendellgee: "We lost because we only scored 18 points. That won't win many matches. Chin scored 9 of those. yes Rory will (hopefully) be back, but we haven't enough scoring power, and we don't create many goalscoring chances.
McGuckian & Hearne work their socks off, but are 1-2 point a game wing forwards. Oisin Foley is similar. Rory came on with 10 to go, was on the edge of the square 1-on-1 with space on the left in particular,, but we never threw a direct ball into the full-forward line.
Our sideline pucks are also a real issue. I counted 7 in the first half alone, and we gained clean possession off none of them. It's a liability when we get a sideline now. we got some in attacking positions, but never committed more than one man into the goal area until we needed a goal in dirt-time.
Hugely encouraging attitude, work rate, a bunch of turnovers. Dee was magnificent, seemed to cover the entire width of the pitch. I've wondered if O'Hanlon would be cut out for full back for years, and he certainly looked the part yesterday. Tighter than Liam Ryan has become, and very sure all day. It could free Ryan for a half-back role, he has the hurling and the mobility.
I thought Matt's injury was ankle, hopefully very sore rather than very serious. Was Damien Reck's a hamstring? He's essential to the team. Shane Reck outstanding, Donohoe good too, but the wing-backs looked works in progress still. Conor Foley rightly hurled with the U-20's yesterday, but he is currently holding a senior jersey for my money.
Corey Byrne-Dunbar can't be far behind, although Dwyer and Higgins did impress yesterday." Agree about the sidelines. Of those 7 we hit 2 out of play over the sideline!!!!
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Replying To Viking66: "Pa Horgan a regular last year?" From last years AI quarter finals which both lost we'd 8 starters and Cork 5.
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "That's the frustrating thing and we don't utilise him. I'm sure exiled is having a good giggle at this forum today. Was talking to a players father (won't name names ) but he was saying his young fella is absolutely wrecked and is shattered after training straight to bed. So I presume they are doing massive training" Would be interested to hear in what way has the training changed under Egan compared to Davy.
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Replying To wendellgee: "We lost because we only scored 18 points. That won't win many matches. Chin scored 9 of those. yes Rory will (hopefully) be back, but we haven't enough scoring power, and we don't create many goalscoring chances.
McGuckian & Hearne work their socks off, but are 1-2 point a game wing forwards. Oisin Foley is similar. Rory came on with 10 to go, was on the edge of the square 1-on-1 with space on the left in particular,, but we never threw a direct ball into the full-forward line.
Our sideline pucks are also a real issue. I counted 7 in the first half alone, and we gained clean possession off none of them. It's a liability when we get a sideline now. we got some in attacking positions, but never committed more than one man into the goal area until we needed a goal in dirt-time.
Hugely encouraging attitude, work rate, a bunch of turnovers. Dee was magnificent, seemed to cover the entire width of the pitch. I've wondered if O'Hanlon would be cut out for full back for years, and he certainly looked the part yesterday. Tighter than Liam Ryan has become, and very sure all day. It could free Ryan for a half-back role, he has the hurling and the mobility.
I thought Matt's injury was ankle, hopefully very sore rather than very serious. Was Damien Reck's a hamstring? He's essential to the team. Shane Reck outstanding, Donohoe good too, but the wing-backs looked works in progress still. Conor Foley rightly hurled with the U-20's yesterday, but he is currently holding a senior jersey for my money.
Corey Byrne-Dunbar can't be far behind, although Dwyer and Higgins did impress yesterday." Agreed on the 18 points not being enough but it was a dog awful evening and Cork only got 16 scores. Some of our decision making at the end of games is really poor though. Jacko missing literally an open goal but also before that he took a mad pot shot from near the sideline when we had someone waiting inside. Chin's missed 65 was crucial too, not that you could criticise him after his performance.
Don't think Corey is anywhere near physically ready for senior. With more injuries it's still hard to know our best 15 or even 20 for Salthill in April. Looks like DOK will definitely be going back in as sweeper on the evidence of yesterday.
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