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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Last year darragh Egan needed to see the established players in action for himself so he didn't experiment with team selection that much. This year is different. He's 12 months in the job, knows exactly what the established players have to offer and is looking for new faces to force their way on to the panel."
I would say the Clare q-final last year really opened Egans eyes in relation to needing 20 players ready for SHC, as soon as the Recks went off last year Tony Kelly & Shane O Donnell came to life and won that game for Clare.

If we can get 4 or 5 good lads that are new or were on the fringes be it starters or coming in as subs to perform at championship level it will have been a very good Walsh cup & league this year for blooding new guys.

The hurlers are there in Wexford, it is just about getting enough game time into these young lads so they are up to speed come May & June.

Limerick have subs coming on in AI semi finals & finals and making huge contributions from the bench, that has to be the target for Egan.

A sub can't come on and weaken the team or take 10mins to get into a match anymore, that day is gone.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 718 - 17/01/2023 09:37:06    2452794

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Lyng probably doesn't need to coax Fennelly back. Besides some of the lads you mentioned, there are some good young forwards he's already tried out this year. Whether they are ready for senior championship hurling, time will tell. But, I think young Billy Drennan is an exciting prospect, and could make a break through this year. Kilkenny had the youngest team/panel out of the leading counties last year, I hope they'll be a stronger outfit this year. A lot will probably depend on Lyng and his set up."
I think Lyng is an excellent manager. He will know most of those younger panel members inside out having managed them before. Drennan has looked good the half dozen or so times I've seen him play up until last year but I'm not sure if he will be a championship starter this year. There's a fair jump from u20 to Senior. It was different when it was u21.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 17/01/2023 09:45:13    2452795

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I've seen some suggest on here that Banville could be a bolter onto the team because of his frees. Yes, he's an excellent free-taker but you absolutely do not start someone in senior intercounty hurling based exclusively on their free-taking ability. If they don't contribute in general play, they don't contribute, simple as. Not saying he definitely won't contribute (I do have my concerns regarding his speed and physicality although his decision-making and hurling ability are up to scratch) but as a fairly reliable rule of thumb, you can't carry a freetaker on a senior intercounty team just because we haven't had the best record on frees over the years. It's all about what you contribute from open play."
Agreed he would have to contribute from open play. But he is a good young hurler who would surely only improve if he plays regularly during the League.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 17/01/2023 09:47:45    2452796

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Stick Rory in there, possibly flood and that's close to the summer team"
I still think Flood is a better forward his defensive game isn't really up to intercounty. I think that's why Egan didn't bring him on much last year in the championship. And you would still have Mogie (hopefully), Donohue, Bailey, Joe OC, Conor Firman, Mcguckin, and Oisin Foley who have previous championship experience. That would make 24 lads along with the 15 Yellow named and Flood and ROC. Hopefully some of Clarke, the 2 Murphys, Hearne, Higgins, Kyle Firman, Clancy, and some of last year's u20s who aren't still u20 this year might stake a claim during the League also.
You'd really want 27 lads in around the same standard who are used to playing with eachother to cope with injuries and rotation. Against Clare Chin ROC and Dwyer were carrying knocks, and Dunbar was missing altogether, Damien Reck got a knock to the head in the 1st half, Shane Reck tired and got injured as the 2nd half reached its climax, and we just didn't have the lads to replace them. Hopefully Egan sticks with any of the lads he has been using so far who are playing well enough as the League goes on. They all need as much Senior Intercounty experience as possible.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 17/01/2023 10:00:57    2452800

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Stick Rory in there, possibly flood and that's close to the summer team"
Oisin Foley & Kevin Foley aswell

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 17/01/2023 10:24:39    2452806

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agreed he would have to contribute from open play. But he is a good young hurler who would surely only improve if he plays regularly during the League."
What age is Ross Banville lads? Hopefully he starts again Saturday night we need to give likes of him , Richie Lawlor and Ian Carty as much game time throughout the league.

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 17/01/2023 10:27:11    2452807

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Replying To Afinestick:  "What age is Ross Banville lads? Hopefully he starts again Saturday night we need to give likes of him , Richie Lawlor and Ian Carty as much game time throughout the league."
Ross is 22, will be turning 23 this year. Played on u20 team in 2019&20.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 17/01/2023 10:51:13    2452812

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Oisin Foley & Kevin Foley aswell"
Forgot Kevin hopefully he will be in better form this year

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 17/01/2023 11:14:30    2452814

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I've seen some suggest on here that Banville could be a bolter onto the team because of his frees. Yes, he's an excellent free-taker but you absolutely do not start someone in senior intercounty hurling based exclusively on their free-taking ability. If they don't contribute in general play, they don't contribute, simple as. Not saying he definitely won't contribute (I do have my concerns regarding his speed and physicality although his decision-making and hurling ability are up to scratch) but as a fairly reliable rule of thumb, you can't carry a freetaker on a senior intercounty team just because we haven't had the best record on frees over the years. It's all about what you contribute from open play."
Actually think he'd contribute as much from open play as few lads last that got a lot of game time last year - Mikie Dwyer, McGukian, Oisin, Jacko etc.

grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 166 - 17/01/2023 11:22:45    2452815

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Replying To hunting:  "Was at the match myself, viking summed it up pretty well but by god lads and i dont like singling people out but fanning is gone a complete liability, it was a shocking goal to concede and but pressure on us for the last few minutes. Backs hurled well enough with Ryan and Carty possibility the pick of them. Midfield played well, if Charlie could be more clinical in front of goal he would be a great addition to the team. Lawlor was my man of the match , he looks a fine prospect. Forwards were ok, banville excellent on frees but needs to contribute more from play. Jack and micky were the usual, mixed the good with the bad. Dunbar was poor and unfortunately Higgins doesn't look up to the standard from what I have seen from him so far, but i hope he proves me wrong. Conor hearne is another good prospect. I know it a big night Saturday but it is only a walsh cup game so I think we should keep the experimenting going. Finally the ref had a shocker last Sunday even the offaly lads around me couldn't believe some of his decisions."
Fanning to be fair to him was decent in Davy's tenure and improved in that time but it looks like he hasn't recovered from the Westmeath game last year, his confidence seems shot.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 17/01/2023 11:28:10    2452816

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Replying To Viking66:  "A good few I'd say. Several lads I know up there are coming down."
There are still terrace tickets for sale on the Kilkenny GAA website. 80% of tickets sold so far.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 17/01/2023 11:34:26    2452819

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "There are still terrace tickets for sale on the Kilkenny GAA website. 80% of tickets sold so far."
Think there are some down here too. They are gone off the Leinster GAA site or at least they were at the weekend.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 17/01/2023 12:54:14    2452843

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Fanning to be fair to him was decent in Davy's tenure and improved in that time but it looks like he hasn't recovered from the Westmeath game last year, his confidence seems shot."
Every championship game last year there was a major error. Lawler deserves a chance.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 641 - 17/01/2023 14:43:11    2452870

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The game on Saturday is small and big as the Walsh Cup is not a very prestigious competition.
However it's Kilkenny and Wexford and that always means war. The first game under lights adds significantly to the occasion.
Great to see the many new faces been used in these games.its vital that Egan unearths new talent for the season proper in a few weeks time.
I would imagine that we will see more regulars starting. Guys like Dee, Gippo, Chin, Mac and Damien Reck with a good few of the lads that had some gametime over the last few weeks.
The cats will be short the Ballyhale players but they will still be a tough nut to crack.
Lyng will be anxious to continue winning and like Wexford he will be casting a critical eye on his newcomers.
So its likely to be an interesting evening in store.
Hard to make a prediction at this time of year but more importantly is to see steady progress been made with our young players.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 260 - 17/01/2023 15:32:13    2452876

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Replying To grassroots01:  "Actually think he'd contribute as much from open play as few lads last that got a lot of game time last year - Mikie Dwyer, McGukian, Oisin, Jacko etc."
Agreed, Oisin Foley played well against Clare but Banville would be ahead of these lads as a natural scorer in my eyes.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 718 - 17/01/2023 15:34:03    2452878

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Replying To Yellow:  "Lawlor

Devitt Ryan S Reck
I Carthy D Reck Hanlon
R Lalor O Keefe
J O Connor Chin Banville
Dwyer Mac Dunbar"
Add Rory O Connor and Oisin Foley to the forward line and this could well be our starting 15 for championship. Would be great to see Banville , Carty and Richie Lawlor push for starting places. Also think its time to give James Lawlor a run in goal. Fanning has been a fantastic servant but you have to feel for him his confidence seems shot

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 17/01/2023 15:51:53    2452881

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Replying To hunting:  "Was at the match myself, viking summed it up pretty well but by god lads and i dont like singling people out but fanning is gone a complete liability, it was a shocking goal to concede and but pressure on us for the last few minutes. Backs hurled well enough with Ryan and Carty possibility the pick of them. Midfield played well, if Charlie could be more clinical in front of goal he would be a great addition to the team. Lawlor was my man of the match , he looks a fine prospect. Forwards were ok, banville excellent on frees but needs to contribute more from play. Jack and micky were the usual, mixed the good with the bad. Dunbar was poor and unfortunately Higgins doesn't look up to the standard from what I have seen from him so far, but i hope he proves me wrong. Conor hearne is another good prospect. I know it a big night Saturday but it is only a walsh cup game so I think we should keep the experimenting going. Finally the ref had a shocker last Sunday even the offaly lads around me couldn't believe some of his decisions."
Ref last Sunday is actually a St Patricks clubman originally now living in Westmeath and affiliated to a club up there, same with Paud O'Dwyer intercounty ref from Tinryland in carlow is orignally a cushinstown native.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 17/01/2023 16:41:57    2452892

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Agreed, Oisin Foley played well against Clare but Banville would be ahead of these lads as a natural scorer in my eyes."
Oisin Foley played well in Nowlan Park too. And did the unglamorous work that forwards have to do in the modern game well apart from getting the goal.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 17/01/2023 17:01:01    2452896

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This page is great in that its like Tommy Tiernan on that bus in Father Ted, happy one minute and depressed the next. Story of being a Wexford supporter? Same as being a Dublin hurling one.
Wexford need to find a good few new faces this year and a bit like Dublin I think target the league too much. The league should be used for getting players up to speed and introducing new players. No need for hysteria over a loss in February if management are building for May/June/July. Wexford's threadbare panel was laid bare when they had no subs with experience v Clare last year and who couldn't slot in seamlessly. That is what you use the league for.
Saturday will be an occasion in the park and 2 euro for a child with fireworks on and off the pitch is a bargain.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 17/01/2023 17:45:36    2452902

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Replying To grassroots01:  "Actually think he'd contribute as much from open play as few lads last that got a lot of game time last year - Mikie Dwyer, McGukian, Oisin, Jacko etc."
I kinda agree although I don't know if that's an exceptionally high bar. I usually think Jack O'Connor is being played out of position (Would be best at wing-back but we've a lot of potential half-backs and not enough half-forwards) plus he can be a ball-winning outlet at times. Oisín Foley is probably the most comparable to Ross Banville in that he can be on the periphery of games at senior intercounty level but he is an excellent shooter from the half-forward line. I'm not generally sold on either Mikie Dwyer or Charlie McGuckin although if McGuckin was played in midfield rather than half-forward line and if he was told to never shoot and instead to look for a quick pass straightaway, he could be much more effective at this level. FWIW, in an ideal scenario, I'm not sure I'd have any of the above as starters aside from Jacko but we do lack depth in our attack.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 215 - 17/01/2023 18:21:47    2452907

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