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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Did anyone really look at the two lineups and think we'd win? Actually, Laois had the far more experienced team out then we did and the lads were very competitive considering the lack of experience we had. It'll take time for guys to find there feet at this level. An example would be Conor Devitt. I was at this same exact game last year, and I thought Devitt was shockingly bad. Year later and how much he's come on is unbelievable. He was outstanding against Clare last year and today again. Banville was gone and I think Lawlor is a serious player. Couldn't give a toss about Walsh cup or league. Just stay up and then give the championship a serious rattle."
My thoughts exactly

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 20:23:19    2451613

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "A good and interesting post for an outsider like me. But, isn't Chin a 'comfortable and reliable free taker'?"
Banville is a far more consistent freetaker and always was since under 11s.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 20:24:05    2451614

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Look it's first game since last June so going be rusty

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 114 - 08/01/2023 17:47:55

It was Laois first game since last May."
It was the first intercounty game ever for 9 of our team never mind the first since last June.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 20:25:14    2451616

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Replying To Purpleandgold72:  "I wouldn't be too worried about today's result, it's early days and don't forget last year, Dublin gave us a good beating in the Walsh Cup Final but we bounced back and beat Limerick the following week and had a good league campaign. We had a good few young lads involved today and there were positives."
Exactly, wouldn't read much into the results of any county this time of year, last year's league should show that to everyone, provincial round robins have led to everyone having the mindset of peaking for April.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 08/01/2023 21:06:01    2451625

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Replying To Viking66:  "Jack Doran didn't start. Not sure if he was even togged out."
He didn't tog, Dee wore 9 came on after 60-65 mins.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 08/01/2023 21:07:33    2451627

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Look it's first game since last June so going be rusty

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 114 - 08/01/2023 17:47:55

It was Laois first game since last May."
It was the first intercounty game ever for 9 of our team never mind the first since last June."
You were saying yesterday before the game, "All those lads have done well in last year's club championship and/or on previous Wexford minor and u20/1 teams."
You can make all the excuses you want, but it was a terrible result for Wexford. It doesn't bode well for the coming League and Leinster Championship.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 08/01/2023 21:15:28    2451631

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Replying To Viking66:  "I was there. 9 debutants, 4 fringe players and only Damien Reck and Liam Ryan of the team that started in last year's game in Nowlan Park. And of the subs brought on most were also debutants with only Chin and Dee O Keefe on in the last 5 minutes or so of the starting team in Nowlan Park. Most of the lads hadn't played with all the other lads before, some were only back in training a few weeks. And it showed.
We overplayed the ball in the Laois 45 especially, getting turned over or just misplacing the ball with some regularity especially in the 1st half. Laois were much slicker with their passing, ball control and movement as was to be expected as they only had 2 debutants .
The back 6 overall played better than the front 8, but with Ryan and Reck there, along with solid displays from Murphy, Clarke, Devitt and Carthy that was probably to be expected. Their performances were all very positive for the future of this season as the AIQF last year showed we definitely need more backs.
Hearne got better after a shaky start as did Clancy.
Of the forwards Banville had an excellent game, while Mcguckin showed his usual high energy and fielded 2 great catches under pressure. The ground definitely didn't suit Kyle Firman who often slipped when attempting fast changes in direction. Overall shooting was poor with well into double figures of wides and balls dropped short.
And part of the reason for the turnovers was we overplayed the ball looking to work goals, with final passes going astray when easy enough points were there to be taken.
Overall I'd be very happy to see the same team and subs selected again for our trip to Birr. These lads are going to need plenty of gametime to get up to intercounty speed of thought and hand."
Agree on most points, taught Reck and Devitt did best of a backline that did well overall, taught Lawlor was assured in goal, 1 good save, puck outs good and comfortable to be an out ball, agree we struggled further up but size wise we did have a small forward line, Banville picked off some lovely scores, Richie Lawlor was good while i taught Kyle Firman did fairly well, got fouled for 4-5 pointed frees, Egan said speaking to Spratt it will be a much changed team next week some subs from today could start, AJ Redmond & Conor Firman were among the subs today but not togged so was Gavin Bailey so hopefully he isn't far away, Egan also said Rory isn't far away either which is good news obviously.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 08/01/2023 21:20:18    2451633

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Look it's first game since last June so going be rusty

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 114 - 08/01/2023 17:47:55

It was Laois first game since last May."
It was the first intercounty game ever for 9 of our team never mind the first since last June."
You were saying yesterday before the game, "All those lads have done well in last year's club championship and/or on previous Wexford minor and u20/1 teams."
You can make all the excuses you want, but it was a terrible result for Wexford. It doesn't bode well for the coming League and Leinster Championship."]If your reading alot into games on January 8 then your the fool among us, are you concerned Kilkenny had a narrow enough win over Offaly?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 08/01/2023 21:22:57    2451634

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "He didn't tog, Dee wore 9 came on after 60-65 mins."
Yes we were standing right behind the bench in the 2nd half

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 21:29:57    2451636

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Look it's first game since last June so going be rusty

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 114 - 08/01/2023 17:47:55

It was Laois first game since last May."
It was the first intercounty game ever for 9 of our team never mind the first since last June."
You were saying yesterday before the game, "All those lads have done well in last year's club championship and/or on previous Wexford minor and u20/1 teams."
You can make all the excuses you want, but it was a terrible result for Wexford. It doesn't bode well for the coming League and Leinster Championship."]Whys that? What was terrible about it? We could've won the game but for a last minute save by an intercounty all star nominated keeper. With a bunch of chaps most of whom had never started a senior intercounty game. Against a Laois team nearly all of which could well start for them come championship time and was much stronger than the one that played in the Leinster championship last year.
Hopefully most of these lads will still be playing, learning and improving come the first half of the League as well. We won every game in div1a last year. What good was that to us come the last 10 minutes of the AIQF?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 21:37:55    2451638

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Agree on most points, taught Reck and Devitt did best of a backline that did well overall, taught Lawlor was assured in goal, 1 good save, puck outs good and comfortable to be an out ball, agree we struggled further up but size wise we did have a small forward line, Banville picked off some lovely scores, Richie Lawlor was good while i taught Kyle Firman did fairly well, got fouled for 4-5 pointed frees, Egan said speaking to Spratt it will be a much changed team next week some subs from today could start, AJ Redmond & Conor Firman were among the subs today but not togged so was Gavin Bailey so hopefully he isn't far away, Egan also said Rory isn't far away either which is good news obviously."
I hope not to see Rory togged out til the last game or 2 of the League tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 21:39:05    2451639

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=Viking66:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Look it's first game since last June so going be rusty

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 114 - 08/01/2023 17:47:55

It was Laois first game since last May."
It was the first intercounty game ever for 9 of our team never mind the first since last June."
You were saying yesterday before the game, "All those lads have done well in last year's club championship and/or on previous Wexford minor and u20/1 teams."
You can make all the excuses you want, but it was a terrible result for Wexford. It doesn't bode well for the coming League and Leinster Championship."]If your reading alot into games on January 8 then your the fool among us, are you concerned Kilkenny had a narrow enough win over Offaly?"]Think he has forgotten Nowlan Park last year. If the Dubs had got a draw in Salthill that would've been Cody's last game in charge.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 08/01/2023 21:41:01    2451642

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Replying To Viking66:  "I hope not to see Rory togged out til the last game or 2 of the League tbh."
Same here but think you said earlier in the week there was rumours he was still a good way off been back training, correct me if I'm wrong.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 08/01/2023 21:48:26    2451644

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Same here but think you said earlier in the week there was rumours he was still a good way off been back training, correct me if I'm wrong."
No I heard he had another similar setback in training. I don't know him and in any case even if I did I'm not a doctor. But from the outside looking in you'd be guessing it's not something easy fixed as it seems to be bothering him for a number of years.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 09/01/2023 07:23:26    2451647

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Look it's first game since last June so going be rusty

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 114 - 08/01/2023 17:47:55

It was Laois first game since last May."
It was the first intercounty game ever for 9 of our team never mind the first since last June."
You were saying yesterday before the game, "All those lads have done well in last year's club championship and/or on previous Wexford minor and u20/1 teams."
You can make all the excuses you want, but it was a terrible result for Wexford. It doesn't bode well for the coming League and Leinster Championship."]https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/brian-cody-gives-his-seal-of-approval-as-kilkenny-start-life-under-derek-lyng-with-win-over-offaly-42271405.html

Fairly strong Kilkenny side struggled at home against an experimental Offaly team. I wouldn't be reading too much into it now but I won't be travelling up to Birr thinking our young lads have any right to be beating Offaly in their heartland.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 09/01/2023 09:34:23    2451653

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Call it my guilty pleasure but I love the 3 x pages of posts/overreactions over Wexford losing a Walsh Cup game in January!
I remember leaving the Walsh Cup final last year and Wexford people losing their nut. I remember telling my Dublin friend that we were too fit for the time of year, hurling too well and seemed to have too much done which would come back to bite us. And so it transpired.
I wasn't at it but it is the Walsh Cup in January, on a boggy pitch, with an inexperienced team. What did you expect, free flowing hurling?
Wexford (and Dublin btw, before anybody says it) need to be targeting a good Championship campaign and not focusing on any of the competitions between now and then for anything other than re-building panels, getting game time in to new players and getting enough points to stay in Division 1.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 09/01/2023 09:37:17    2451654

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Call it my guilty pleasure but I love the 3 x pages of posts/overreactions over Wexford losing a Walsh Cup game in January!
I remember leaving the Walsh Cup final last year and Wexford people losing their nut. I remember telling my Dublin friend that we were too fit for the time of year, hurling too well and seemed to have too much done which would come back to bite us. And so it transpired.
I wasn't at it but it is the Walsh Cup in January, on a boggy pitch, with an inexperienced team. What did you expect, free flowing hurling?
Wexford (and Dublin btw, before anybody says it) need to be targeting a good Championship campaign and not focusing on any of the competitions between now and then for anything other than re-building panels, getting game time in to new players and getting enough points to stay in Division 1."
Ah yes there was actually an intercounty game of hurling to talk about after 6 months without one! Great!!
For sure the result or even the performance won't mean anything much come April. But it would still be good to see incremental improvement in at least some of those new or fringe players game on game between now and then. Not just good but necessary if we are going to give the championship a good rattle. Hopefully he persists with these lads and others like them on the panel to bring them up to the speed and standard needed.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 09/01/2023 10:48:08    2451662

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Wouldnt read too much into yesterdays result at all.

Sure the vast majority of our hurlers havent had a noteworthy game of hurling in ages at this stage, i mean its coming up on almost half a year since the majority of our hurlers have hurled any game of note club or county..... but hey apparently shoehorning all our club hurling in to 1 x 6 week period out of 52 weeks in the year is great and bound to be of benefit going forward!

TheHogues (Wexford) - Posts: 26 - 09/01/2023 10:50:19    2451663

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I have absolutely no interest in winning the Walsh Cup or even making the final.

I want us to go hell for leather to beat Kilkenny which leaves only Laois and Offaly games to try new lads out and give them game time.

For the league I would like us to get one win under our belt quickly to avoid relegation then use the other matches for experimentation

Look at Limerick last year who lost every league game.

The only concern this season should be the round robin and having all our players fit with 22 players fighting for 15 starting places and genuine competition for championship starts

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 547 - 09/01/2023 10:54:01    2451664

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Couldnt make yesterdays game unfortunately . I wouldnt be too worried about the result. We had 9 lads making their debuts. Do we expect any of these to push to start in championship this year? I expect to a couple more of the regulars return over the next 2 weeks but I hope we continue to give plenty of these young lads a chance over the coming weeks. As posters have said If we pick up the odd win and blood plenty of new players along the way it will be a good spring for us.

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 09/01/2023 12:20:26    2451683

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