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Replying To galwayford:  "That is not true. Israel is a nuclear power. Most Arab states have accepted it's existence. Israel has never really accepted the Palestinians existence. And have tried to wipe them off the map."
The Arabs have tried to wipe Israel off the map on several occasions. The fact that they havent been able to doesn't make them better or more likeable people than the Israelis are.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18687 - 07/03/2026 11:18:30    2660397

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Replying To Viking66:  "The Arabs have tried to wipe Israel off the map on several occasions. The fact that they havent been able to doesn't make them better or more likeable people than the Israelis are."
Well there's no one less likeable in the world at the minute than the genocidal state.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1489 - 07/03/2026 12:48:30    2660413

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Replying To Viking66:  "Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu want peace. Thats why there isnt peace there, and wont be while those 2 parties are in government of Israel and Gaza."
You didn't answer the question. If you think the current attitude by the Government in Israel is the problem, then you do not understand the history of the Zionists movement and its origins. The concept of an Israel began with the British as a mixture of Christian orthodox and anti semitic views - the only way the second coming of Christ could happen is if the Jews occupied the holy land and at which point if they did not convert they would be dammed to hell. However it also solved their Jewish problem. Today most Jewish people in Israel believe the same story you are talking about because if they didn't, they would really be troubled by what their state represents. Jewish people have been demonised by Christians not Muslims however its the Muslims who have paid the price for Christianity. Before anyone talks about well us good Christian Irish people had nothing to do with it, then look again at how we and the rest of the world respond to Hitler.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2182 - 07/03/2026 13:05:31    2660416

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Replying To Viking66:  "The Egyptians closed their border with Gaza too. Of course the Israelis don't want a Palestinian State next door. Why would they after the last 80 odd years of fighting between the 2?
Im not saying they are right in not wanting it by the way, only stating a fact.
The current Israeli regime definitely dont want peace. But that might change following the next elections there.
The current regime ruling Gaza, Hamas, never wanted peace either. And still dont. Only they won't be voted out anytime soon."
You mean, why would they want a Palestinian state next door when they are pushing for the greater Israel project? Go and research exactly what the people of Israel believe they are entitled to in the middle east. It might shock you how much of it is already is undeniably in motion at this stage.

If you listen to what other Israeli potential candidates say about Palestinians, you would be extremely naive to think that the current regime are the only one who dont want peace and equality there.

Hamas wont be voted out any time soon because Israel wont let it happen. Hamas actually welcomed elections along with the UN but Israel wouldn't allow Arab residents in Jerusalem the right to vote, as was previously agreed upon. A supremacist state is impossible to negotiate with and that's the bottom line over there. Hamas could be dealt with one way or another if standard procedures were allowed to take place. But as things stand, Israel just looks like another version of a certain regime from the 1930s.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2614 - 07/03/2026 13:22:38    2660419

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