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Replying To MalsBalls:  "thats not realistic, nor is what i said to be fair but you missed my point - i have no real grá for hurling and prefer football - simple as that"
I kind of purposely missed the point because while granted you are a football supporter and no doubt diehard for the white and blue, it may not always be or have been the case and what's the harm in other sports?

I've seen in countless times whereby a son is pushed and pushed to be a footballer but then shows promise in Basketball for example and then the parent goes all in on Basketball and football is forgotten. In the worst cases bridges get burned and the real loser is the son.

MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 233 - 13/03/2025 09:03:45    2596183

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "You are away off man. Those other sports belong to altogether different organizations'. GAA football clubs don't promote those organization's' sports. If there are enough people who want hurling, then hurling will thrive just like running, swimming and rugby do."
Agreed, GAA is not to promote other sports but its vision is to be inclusive and provide games to all levels of ability, see purpose and vision here: https://www.gaa.ie/the-gaa/administration

MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 233 - 13/03/2025 09:07:29    2596185

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The hurlers in Monaghan bring two things to the table, they cut up good pitch's and stretch out good jerseys.

Waste of time & resources in a small county. What's with this "shove it down their throat" approach? We are and have always been a football county and we are only middling at that at the best of times with all our focus on it.

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 34 - 13/03/2025 10:01:02    2596199

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Replying To farneygael3:  "With the amount of hurling grants coming into the county to buy footballs the county NEEDS the hurling ;-)"
I see the forum has reached why hurling is dying in Monaghan. No juvenile games and funds mishandled. I am sure the new hurling development officer Willie Maher will enjoy reporting back to Croke Park. Grants will be the first thing pulled….

BaileCrann (Down) - Posts: 66 - 13/03/2025 10:44:30    2596214

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "The hurlers in Monaghan bring two things to the table, they cut up good pitch's and stretch out good jerseys.

Waste of time & resources in a small county. What's with this "shove it down their throat" approach? We are and have always been a football county and we are only middling at that at the best of times with all our focus on it."
Ha, good one, if you ever played a game in Dublin, Tipp, Laois, Offaly, Wexford or Cork you'll know that pitches in hurling counties are far superior to the ones we have in Monaghan. There is no good pitches in Monaghan, just mossy bogs or barren sandy pitches.

MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 233 - 13/03/2025 13:04:10    2596230

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Replying To MrPBoylan:  "Ha, good one, if you ever played a game in Dublin, Tipp, Laois, Offaly, Wexford or Cork you'll know that pitches in hurling counties are far superior to the ones we have in Monaghan. There is no good pitches in Monaghan, just mossy bogs or barren sandy pitches."
Why do you think we were left out of the 6 counties in 21!

Regards the hurling: it'd be tough for the likes of the smaller clubs to field a hurling team and a football team. Forby the onus that'd be placed on a small number of young lads to devote themselves to two codes, you're asking for a lot of voluntary work from a small pool of parishioners too.. the bigger counties with bigger populations can do that but the likes of Monaghan are unlikely to ever be able to field competitive teams in both codes.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 195 - 13/03/2025 14:06:02    2596249

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Replying To MrPBoylan:  "Ha, good one, if you ever played a game in Dublin, Tipp, Laois, Offaly, Wexford or Cork you'll know that pitches in hurling counties are far superior to the ones we have in Monaghan. There is no good pitches in Monaghan, just mossy bogs or barren sandy pitches."
Now I know you are a bluffer. Having worked and attended games in most of the counties you named, I know beyond a shadow of doubt that the pitches and facilities in Monaghan are miles ahead of those counties and have been for nigh on 50 years.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 450 - 13/03/2025 14:45:51    2596259

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Why do you think we were left out of the 6 counties in 21!

Regards the hurling: it'd be tough for the likes of the smaller clubs to field a hurling team and a football team. Forby the onus that'd be placed on a small number of young lads to devote themselves to two codes, you're asking for a lot of voluntary work from a small pool of parishioners too.. the bigger counties with bigger populations can do that but the likes of Monaghan are unlikely to ever be able to field competitive teams in both codes."
Exactly. All hurling will achieve in Monaghan is dilute the potential of our main sports (football) potential at the highest level, be that county or club.

If clubs want to field a team, and there's is adequate interest, then fill your boots but this stance of almost shaming/calling out small counties/clubs for not bending the knee to both codes is ridiculous.

And…. The argument that it's our "culture" etc. is flawed unless your making the same push for handball et al.

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 34 - 13/03/2025 15:28:35    2596266

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Why do you think we were left out of the 6 counties in 21!

Regards the hurling: it'd be tough for the likes of the smaller clubs to field a hurling team and a football team. Forby the onus that'd be placed on a small number of young lads to devote themselves to two codes, you're asking for a lot of voluntary work from a small pool of parishioners too.. the bigger counties with bigger populations can do that but the likes of Monaghan are unlikely to ever be able to field competitive teams in both codes."
Incorrect. Hurling and football training on same night. First 45mins one code then switch. Smaller the parish the easier. Slaughneil?

BaileCrann (Down) - Posts: 66 - 13/03/2025 22:52:40    2596307

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Replying To BaileCrann:  "Incorrect. Hurling and football training on same night. First 45mins one code then switch. Smaller the parish the easier. Slaughneil?"
Nonsense indeed. Football training alone lasts 90 minutes alone these days and we are miles off an All Ireland.

Most clubs in Monaghan, like it or not are paying managers from outside - should they pay for a hurling and football manager?

It's possible in a perfect storm, which is what Slaughtneil are - but a lot of clubs in Monaghan are far from perfect.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 195 - 14/03/2025 14:31:37    2596365

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So how are Monaghan fans on here feeling about what is a promotion play off in Navan this weekend? over the last decade in Div 1 it was round 6 and 7 where Monaghan came alive I'm thinking the same could happen here to clip Meath's wings.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 339 - 14/03/2025 15:05:20    2596367

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Replying To BaileCrann:  "Incorrect. Hurling and football training on same night. First 45mins one code then switch. Smaller the parish the easier. Slaughneil?"
Would you ever head on back to the peninsula where you came from…your club dosnt even play football and here you are lamenting us for not playing hurling

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 734 - 14/03/2025 18:02:09    2596389

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "So how are Monaghan fans on here feeling about what is a promotion play off in Navan this weekend? over the last decade in Div 1 it was round 6 and 7 where Monaghan came alive I'm thinking the same could happen here to clip Meath's wings."
Apprehensive to be honest, but sure what's new??

Monaghan have drifted out of games they were cruising in- Louth, Cork and even Westmeath to some extent- so they are never quite safe in a game. A lot of that seems to stem from a tendency to fade out badly in midfield. Mohan and Hughes are not quite ready to offer real cover there, and a lot is asked of Bobby McCaul. Meath have size and power around the middle so they may have an edge there. Matthew Costello and Ronan Jones availability would make a big difference.
Still think Monaghan might do it but a 5 or 6 point Meath win would be no surprise either.
Championship feel to.it.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1169 - 14/03/2025 19:01:56    2596393

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There's some Dinosaurs on here. Hurling is a fantastic game, and though not always, the reality is that most natural footballers, with minimal work can be decent enough hurlers. The problem is that they are too old starting. Its a joy to go to a County like Meath now, where there are dual clubs popping up all over the county. The young lads from U8 go to GAA training, they bring their hurl and helmet along with their football gloves. They alter it around, maybe 40 mins of football followed by 20 minutes of hurling, and then the opposite the following night.

I have been to dual tournaments in Dublin and Ashbourne in recent years where the same teams play Football in the morning, and then play hurling after lunch. I think Truagh have run something similar recently and had Cuala (All Ireland Champions in both codes) take part.

They are true Gaels, not like some of the barstool men here.

BrehonBlonde (Monaghan) - Posts: 109 - 14/03/2025 19:39:42    2596398

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Joel Wilson, Ryan McAnespie and Dessie Ward named on the bench for Sunday. Great to see it.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1169 - 14/03/2025 20:03:23    2596403

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Strong 26 named. Dessie Ward Mohan and Mcenespie definitely start come championship if fit. McBennett being back is big also. Pity Sean Jones is missing. Not sure f he is injured but been good for him to kick on in this league which hasn't really happened for him. Despite big scores still dont think we have enough in inside line v really good sides to win games. A lot of the defences in div 2 are poor standard. Meath are becoming a good side big physical men some great forwards costello a huge loss to them but whether they are at the level of those really good sides in upper tier we will find out on Sunday. Live in the county you cam sense excitement and belief building in them but we will have that in our lads also who can be proud of their efforts to date after brutal year last year. A lot of them are relatively new to the set up and have given everything to the Jersey. Hope big monaghan crowd there on Sunday as meath people tell me it's their biggest match in navan in years. Should be a cliff hanger but think we'll edge it as huge grit on the bench if those lads are fit.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1871 - 15/03/2025 05:48:16    2596435

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Replying To BrehonBlonde:  "There's some Dinosaurs on here. Hurling is a fantastic game, and though not always, the reality is that most natural footballers, with minimal work can be decent enough hurlers. The problem is that they are too old starting. Its a joy to go to a County like Meath now, where there are dual clubs popping up all over the county. The young lads from U8 go to GAA training, they bring their hurl and helmet along with their football gloves. They alter it around, maybe 40 mins of football followed by 20 minutes of hurling, and then the opposite the following night.

I have been to dual tournaments in Dublin and Ashbourne in recent years where the same teams play Football in the morning, and then play hurling after lunch. I think Truagh have run something similar recently and had Cuala (All Ireland Champions in both codes) take part.

They are true Gaels, not like some of the barstool men here."
Sure it you want to start that debate … no club is under any obligation to field any team.

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 734 - 15/03/2025 15:01:42    2596507

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Do people on here not understand what the original core values of what the gaa is all about? It's to promote Irish games, Irish language and Irish culture.

tommyjohn (Monaghan) - Posts: 64 - 15/03/2025 16:22:16    2596521

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Really interested to see how the minors go with Declan Brennan this year. Fantastic person to have in the dressing room

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 162 - 15/03/2025 16:39:19    2596525

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "So how are Monaghan fans on here feeling about what is a promotion play off in Navan this weekend? over the last decade in Div 1 it was round 6 and 7 where Monaghan came alive I'm thinking the same could happen here to clip Meath's wings."
It's 50/50 at best for me. Meath are probably one of the best teams to have adapted to the new rules, perhaps because they never really bought into applying a really defensive game over the past decade, like everyone else. It will come down to how much we concede to them as much as anything else, they can score goals, score from distance and have pace. We have a chance if we get everything right as going forward we can trouble them too.
However I don't think that it will ultimately decide promotion if we lose, Louth in Inniskeen is no gimme for Meath, nor Down for us

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1063 - 15/03/2025 17:24:14    2596540

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