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Sure you were calling for Cooney's head before they went on and won the Tailteann Cup.
Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 676 - 03/01/2023 11:46:02 2450937 Link 0 |
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I was agreeable with 99% of the forum at the time. Westmeath had the worst league and championship campaign on record for a very long time. It was nothing personal against Jack Cooney. Ok we got lucky with the new competition being held in the same year but you'd surely agree that the league and championship run was well below par, and the tailtenn cup, well it is what it is, a second tier competition that has done wonders for morale in the county, but only for it, a regular league and championship campaign was one of the worst in the last 10 years. Dessie Dolan is a new manager, very strange to say that people would judge Dessie or anyone the same as someone else. That's very narrow minded talk. Everyone is deserving of a run and chance just like Jack Cooney was. For me, after the long term Jack Cooney had, it wasn't good enough (let's forget tailteann cup for a second) because if there was no first year of that cup, would you have been happy for Jack Connery to stay on, given his term, the style of play, and his results in League and championship in 2022? I think not. Tailteann was brilliant for Westmeath, but let's be real. Winning a competition of that nature was a huge cover over the shortcomings of the year at the higher level of football, and nobody on the forum disagreed with me at the time. Full admiration for what they went into achieve after in the tailteann cup, I'm happy Jack went out that way, because he had done great things previously, it was a great morale booster and hopefully we can kick on now. But Jacks departure was needed regardless. Fair? Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 03/01/2023 12:47:21 2450945 Link 2 |
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Any word on team for tomorrow ? Would like to see some new faces get a run Lakecounty94 (Westmeath) - Posts: 79 - 03/01/2023 14:28:23 2450970 Link 0 |
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its the o byrne cup
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 03/01/2023 14:50:30 2450974 Link 1 |
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What's your point? He asked a genuine question
mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 03/01/2023 16:33:58 2450988 Link 1 |
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Not in the slightest bit fair to treat one of our own in such a way and even now belittling what they eventually did achieve. I think most people on here realised that Cooney, or anyone else for that matter, would not have achieved much more with the players we had available. Most people were very disappointed when he left because they know how passionate he is about Westmeath and that any shortcomings in terms of results certainly was not for the lack of effort. As i recall it, you were the only one calling for his head.
Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 676 - 03/01/2023 17:18:37 2450994 Link 0 |
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Westmeath had only 1 game in last years O'Byrne cup-bad defeat away to Kildare but I think Jack Cooney played a lot of the newer squad players-maybe Dessie will do the same or should he go strong and try and get a first competitive win under his belt.? Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 03/01/2023 17:39:31 2450997 Link 0 |
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Jack was always lastminute.com when announcing teams so don't see Dessie being any different. Best of luck to the lads on their first outing. Hopefully a few new faces getting a chance. Game available to stream online for 11.99 at clubber.ie. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1182 - 03/01/2023 21:12:29 2451017 Link 0 |
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what
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 04/01/2023 09:14:29 2451024 Link 0 |
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What don't you understand? He asked a genuine question on team news for a match. Your reply was that it's the O'Byrne Cup. Your answer made no sense and sounded condescending. I simply asked what was the point of your answer as a) it didn't answer the original question and b)was there a reason your answer was what it was? I hope that explains what I said
mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 04/01/2023 10:37:51 2451041 Link 0 |
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I see Stephen Smith has joined his brother. Serious addition. He's a class act. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 471 - 04/01/2023 13:09:49 2451083 Link 0 |
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Let me clear this up, at the end of league and proper championship last year, Jack Cooney needed to be replaced. That doesn't take a rocket scientist to analyse. He had that same squad for a few years, and the results steadily got worse. Not sure what you want us to say. That os not jacks fault, that just needs change. My feelings on the Tailteann cup success is seperate because we won't even know what that cup means for teams until 2/3 years time. Do teams improve from it, do they sit in a comfort zone, does it bring the gap even further down, knowing the GAA, It could be scrapped altogether. If Westmeath get promoted from the league this year, would you not think that that's better for the team than the Tailteann win? Or a run to semi final/ final of Leinster and have a run against the top teams in the qualifiers, Of course it is. The Tailteann win needs to be the catalyst for this. It was an important competition because it came at the right time for Westmeath. If there was no Tailteann cup Jacks contribution to Westmeath GAA would have been clouded and the above average seasons we have had under Jack would have been forgotten. I'm delighted for Jack and Westmeath. Let me be clear here. Jack Cooney was (and is) a fantastic manager, Coach and man. But everyone's time comes. And I'm delighted for him that he's remembered as one of the greats now. Because he is. But change is needed in any team that is on the decline. Not jacks fault. It's the nature of the game. In any sport. No belittling going on here at all. Apologies if I can across that way. Change was needed. Change is here. I'm hoping we have a fantastic season and looking forward to the game tonight. Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 04/01/2023 13:49:52 2451091 Link 0 |
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no idea what you are on about go back behind the ditch
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 04/01/2023 14:34:15 2451100 Link 0 |
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the team is picked good luck to the lads for this evening and for the season ahead
mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 04/01/2023 14:59:09 2451109 Link 0 |
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Spot on. If it wasn't for the Tailteann Cup Westmeath football had stagnated. Without that competition I'd have said it was time for Jack Cooney to move on. And that's not necessarily because he was doing a bad job. People will say 'ah sure he can only do as well as the players he has at his disposal'. Well if that's the case why not try something different? No point in watching the same thing ever year, mid table league and get to Leinster semi/quarter year in year out.
westmeathman99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 125 - 04/01/2023 15:26:59 2451116 Link 0 |
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Good man. You've backed up my theory there with that genius comeback. We'll leave it at that
mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 04/01/2023 18:58:16 2451164 Link 0 |
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Reasonable display last night considering it was a first outing at that level for many and their first time to play together as a team. Expect a totally different side for Saturday in The Downs, Stephen Smith looks an addition and Daniel Scahill will play a part in the National league, he was impressive last night. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2139 - 05/01/2023 08:56:31 2451179 Link 0 |
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Disappointing to only score 1 point in the second half but Louth set up as a classic Mickey Harte team in the second half and were very good and disciplined in defence. Stephen Smyth was impressive in the first half and Scahill definitely was the strongest of the backs. We looked very vulnerable at full back and I'm not sure if McCormack is a natural full back and would play there long term. I thought Monaghan, McCormack and Baker showed well and were probably three of our physically bigger players on the night. It's good to see so many new faces get a run. The goal was a fluke of sorts and only for that we would have won. Overall not bad but as I said the lack of scoring in second half and even urgency to get scores when clock was against us were the only negatives for me
mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 257 - 05/01/2023 09:40:22 2451185 Link 0 |
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Poor enough performance last night but as said before it was the first game for many of these players. Some of the decisions making in the last few minutes was awful. Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 547 - 05/01/2023 12:58:44 2451233 Link 0 |
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Thought Forde led line well at 14 with molloy and smith in co.
Wmeathman23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1 - 05/01/2023 14:13:32 2451249 Link 0 |