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Replying To CountyFinal: "You accused me of abusing you. When did that happen? Why am I lucky you don't know me?" ah my name is mick cunningham you have changed your on line profile . get out of my space mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1873 - 22/08/2024 11:07:46 2566270 Link
Any Progress on new manager for senior Job? Is Wall the front runner ? Quirke available now from Kerry i think has loads of experience. Any word on the minor vacancy? Presume the existing manager is not going to reapply, John Murray in for the job from Moate. Is Damien Gavin staying with the 21s?, be great if these were all in place by the start of the summer so they can get planning and go watch games. PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 62 - 22/08/2024 15:04:08 2566304 Link
Mike Quirke achieved nothing with Laois Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1948 - 22/08/2024 18:17:16 2566331 Link
I see Kevin Egan the Offaly journalist delighted that they got Mickey Harte with Westmeath interested in him… I seriously doubt Westmeath even tried to get him. I don't know who is actually in for the role but I'd like to see Wall get it. He would have a fairly decent knowledge of the local scene. I know Meath may also want him so Westmeath would want to act quickly if he is contention! Matthew (None) - Posts: 1038 - 22/08/2024 18:52:18 2566338 Link
Replying To PowellJohn3: "Any Progress on new manager for senior Job? Is Wall the front runner ? Quirke available now from Kerry i think has loads of experience. Any word on the minor vacancy? Presume the existing manager is not going to reapply, John Murray in for the job from Moate. Is Damien Gavin staying with the 21s?, be great if these were all in place by the start of the summer so they can get planning and go watch games." Presume John Keane is the front runner ? Surely his job if he wants it. Damien Gavin might be an option as selector if not longer involved with 21's. I see Shane Curran is taking Carlow seniors. Andy Moran going in with Mayo apparently. Haven't heard any other names linked with Westmeath. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1173 - 22/08/2024 21:16:35 2566354 Link
Replying To PowellJohn3: "Any Progress on new manager for senior Job? Is Wall the front runner ? Quirke available now from Kerry i think has loads of experience. Any word on the minor vacancy? Presume the existing manager is not going to reapply, John Murray in for the job from Moate. Is Damien Gavin staying with the 21s?, be great if these were all in place by the start of the summer so they can get planning and go watch games." Damien sounded like he was stepping down after the Down game, a great Westmeath man and would like to see him remain involved somewhere . John Maughan is the rumour now , hes no stranger to these parts over the years. If there is something to it I think he would be interesting A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 22/08/2024 21:22:32 2566357 Link
Replying To A_Chairde: "Damien sounded like he was stepping down after the Down game, a great Westmeath man and would like to see him remain involved somewhere . John Maughan is the rumour now , hes no stranger to these parts over the years. If there is something to it I think he would be interesting" Out of interest; what are the criteria do posters reckon are 'must haves' to be considered as the next Westmeath Senior football manager? What should the term be, and within that term was should be their mandate and by what should success be measured? fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 163 - 22/08/2024 21:47:34 2566360 Link
Replying To A_Chairde: "Damien sounded like he was stepping down after the Down game, a great Westmeath man and would like to see him remain involved somewhere . John Maughan is the rumour now , hes no stranger to these parts over the years. If there is something to it I think he would be interesting" Surely not. John Maughan is past his sell by date as a manager. We destroyed his Offaly team in 2022 Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 22/08/2024 22:48:09 2566368 Link
John Maughan was a fine manager but that was twenty years ago, we need to get a younger, hungry man who will lead our young side for next three years at the end of which we can be no lower than division 3 of the league. Lar Wall, Ciaran Kilmurray or Alan Mangan would be good selections. Buddah managed Tyrrellspass, now with Castletown, still playing senior, I don't see division 2 as being remotely realistic with our age profile and players retiring or emigrating. The danger of successive relegations needs to be avoided. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1948 - 23/08/2024 00:12:58 2566375 Link
Replying To fizzygravy: "Out of interest; what are the criteria do posters reckon are 'must haves' to be considered as the next Westmeath Senior football manager? What should the term be, and within that term was should be their mandate and by what should success be measured?" Success would be staying in the div 2 and reaching the pre QFs in the All Ireland series. For the Leinster championship it would be to reach a final if we are not in Dublin's side of the draw. Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 518 - 23/08/2024 09:11:14 2566390 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Success would be staying in the div 2 and reaching the pre QFs in the All Ireland series. For the Leinster championship it would be to reach a final if we are not in Dublin's side of the draw." no names in the moix which i find interesting . mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1873 - 23/08/2024 10:04:35 2566396 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Success would be staying in the div 2 and reaching the pre QFs in the All Ireland series. For the Leinster championship it would be to reach a final if we are not in Dublin's side of the draw." See you answered the easy part; what success might look like in your opinion. What about the credentials of a suitable candidate? Is there a check list? Past experience; coaching team; development pathway; year 1, year 2, year 3 objectives and tangible milestones; costs; backroom staff; etc. Realistically Westmeath football is at a very precarious juncture; the panel is most likely going to be weakened considerably. It sounds as though there will be no continuity from more recent set-ups. This is a blank slate environment but the expectations are probably similar to those of the last 3 years. Not really appealing for many to put their hands up tbf. This is the difficulty facing any selection committee or any prospective applicant. There needs to be a realistic plan. fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 163 - 23/08/2024 11:17:19 2566408 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Success would be staying in the div 2 and reaching the pre QFs in the All Ireland series. For the Leinster championship it would be to reach a final if we are not in Dublin's side of the draw." That would be an incredible level of success considering age profile, team in transition Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1948 - 23/08/2024 11:35:31 2566413 Link
Replying To Bluelake: "Surely not. John Maughan is past his sell by date as a manager. We destroyed his Offaly team in 2022" What is the sell by date for a manager? Kieran Mc Geeney has had 10 years with Armagh, hes been on the sidelines a lot longer than that. Mickey Harte is three decades on the go. Its just hearsay but if Maughan was to come in he would attract a 'modern day' coach like Tomas O Se who he had in Offaly. A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 23/08/2024 11:40:48 2566415 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Mike Quirke achieved nothing with Laois" a lot of time has passed since then and he's likely to have learned from the experience and from Kerry too. I think he is worth considering. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 663 - 23/08/2024 12:28:04 2566427 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "John Maughan was a fine manager but that was twenty years ago, we need to get a younger, hungry man who will lead our young side for next three years at the end of which we can be no lower than division 3 of the league. Lar Wall, Ciaran Kilmurray or Alan Mangan would be good selections. Buddah managed Tyrrellspass, now with Castletown, still playing senior, I don't see division 2 as being remotely realistic with our age profile and players retiring or emigrating. The danger of successive relegations needs to be avoided." Have you been on the sauce? Ciaran Kilmurray?? Buddah?? These guys haven't even been in as a selector in a County Setup have they? Absolutely not. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 663 - 23/08/2024 12:32:13 2566429 Link
Replying To A_Chairde: "What is the sell by date for a manager? Kieran Mc Geeney has had 10 years with Armagh, hes been on the sidelines a lot longer than that. Mickey Harte is three decades on the go. Its just hearsay but if Maughan was to come in he would attract a 'modern day' coach like Tomas O Se who he had in Offaly." I would say that Tomas O'Se wouldnt be a Coach under any other manager. He would see himself as a big fish now for a top job with either Kerry (after Jack O'Connor) or another Div 1 County. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 663 - 23/08/2024 12:35:25 2566430 Link
Replying To A_Chairde: "What is the sell by date for a manager? Kieran Mc Geeney has had 10 years with Armagh, hes been on the sidelines a lot longer than that. Mickey Harte is three decades on the go. Its just hearsay but if Maughan was to come in he would attract a 'modern day' coach like Tomas O Se who he had in Offaly." Maughan and O Se in Offaly achieved absolutely nothing. Zero progress Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1948 - 23/08/2024 12:40:10 2566433 Link
Replying To A_Chairde: "What is the sell by date for a manager? Kieran Mc Geeney has had 10 years with Armagh, hes been on the sidelines a lot longer than that. Mickey Harte is three decades on the go. Its just hearsay but if Maughan was to come in he would attract a 'modern day' coach like Tomas O Se who he had in Offaly." Maughan didn't bring Tomas O Se into Offaly. Michael Duignan did that like he has brought Mickey Harte in with Declan Kelly already in place. The hope there was for O Se to take over from Maughan the following year but O Se walked after the first year when he was expected to take over as manager after Maughan was forced out. In fairness to Maughan he did a good job there, qualifying them from Division 3 into 2 in his first season. He was treated badly in the end and it backfired on Offaly when O Se didn't take over from him. mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 23/08/2024 13:08:54 2566437 Link
Replying To Meridian: "a lot of time has passed since then and he's likely to have learned from the experience and from Kerry too. I think he is worth considering." It's only three years since he left Laois. He stepped down there after we hammered them in a Leinster Championship match. He took over Laois in a fairly good place from John Sugrue who led them to two successive promotions and a Leinster Final and were on an upward trajectory before he stepped down to take the Kerry u20 job. Quirke led them back down to Division 4 where they have been since this years promotion and big championship defeats. I wouldn't go near him. mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 23/08/2024 13:23:01 2566441 Link