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Yes definitely a semi final next week v Donegal or Tyrone.
Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 19/03/2023 10:51:45 2464649 Link 1 |
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No chance. He cannot commit. Qualified doctor.
Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 19/03/2023 10:52:42 2464651 Link 1 |
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Well it looks like despite our best efforts we are still in with a chance of promotion! In a four way tie we are out on points difference unless we beat Waterford but a ridiculous amount. If there is a two way tie with us and Laois we go up by head to head. So if Wicklow, Laois and Sligo win we go up...I think?!! stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 124 - 19/03/2023 18:10:51 2464849 Link 0 |
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Correct. Say thank you Leitrim, now go away Leitrim ( no offence taken!!? Cracking last weekend in store Solo Run (None) - Posts: 316 - 19/03/2023 18:29:54 2464858 Link 1 |
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That's what I have always enjoyed about the GAA community. That bit of good natured ould craic and banter. Where occasionally games bring out the worst in us, invariably they bring out the best. I for one won't be too disappointed if we don't make it. I'm not sure that we are strong enough or mature enough to be able to stay in Div 3 at the moment. Possibly I will be made eat my words. But if you look at the Carlow, Sligo and Wexford performances, they would not be close enough to Div 3 standard and it seems as if Wexford were 4/5 players short. Anyway, here's looking forward to next weekend.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 999 - 19/03/2023 19:34:54 2464880 Link 0 |
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I'll be quiet now!!!!!! Them permutations are not quite correct. The garden county don't need Sligo to win in Carrick on Shannon. A draw in Carrick would suffice for the garden county who if they conquer the deise will be going up leitrimforsam (Leitrim) - Posts: 85 - 19/03/2023 19:41:52 2464885 Link 0 |
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Seems silly to have a semi in a 6 team group, but I suppose it keeps less dead rubbers in later rounds.
FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 71 - 19/03/2023 19:51:19 2464889 Link 0 |
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The final weekend in Division 4 looks like a cracker. Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 19/03/2023 21:16:58 2464939 Link 0 |
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From what I can determine; there seems to be the mad situation that head to head determines who is promoted or relegated in all division except division four which I find hard to believe. Basically Wicklow have to win their last game against Waterford to ensure that they finish on ten points, any thing less and we can't be promoted. Then it is down to either head to head or scoring difference. If it is head to head and Laois lose to Leitrim, we would be promoted ahead of Laois but if scoring difference is used as a mechanism to determine who is promoted, we have an inferior scoring difference and have no realistic chance of promotion if we are level with other teams in the group. I would think that the team and management are happy overall with their league. Apart from a loss to Sligo, we are unbeaten. The two draws will probably cost us promotion but there is something to build on for the rest of the summer and going into next year's league campaign. Like another poster, I don't think another year in division four will do the team any harm considering the age profile of the group. Division three might be a step too far at this stage but we have to get there first to find out.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 20/03/2023 09:11:30 2464976 Link 0 |
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Head to Head comes before Score Difference, I've heard of no exceptions to that. Score difference will only come into it if all 4 teams finish level. Then we are in trouble. Leitrim win is a disaster for us as that will lead to a 4 way tie, then score difference matters. We want a situation where we finish level with Laois, then we get promoted. We need a Sligo win or draw, then a simple win v Waterford and we're up. Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 20/03/2023 10:36:38 2465024 Link 0 |
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That was a decent game of football on Saturday, at times the standard was better than you'd expect in division 4. Obviously, as a wexford man, I was hoping for a win to keep us in contention but it wasn't to be. I hope results go your way next weekend, it will be an interesting hour or so next Sunday keeping up to date with scores around the country!! There seems to be a small bit if confusion here regarding head to head or score difference. If 2 teams are on equal points, the head to head will decide which team advances. If more than 2 teams ( 3 or more) finish on equal points then scoring difference will decide. Yellaman (Wexford) - Posts: 111 - 20/03/2023 11:20:05 2465061 Link 0 |
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You even have the funny situation where if Leitrim, Laois and Wicklow (and Wexford) all lose the second spot would be decided on scoring difference despite Wicklow having beaten both of the other two. In fairness, writing that into the rules would be quite the headache and it would be such an unlikely event in an 8 team league. GAA league tables on twitter is doing live tables across the four divisions on Sunday which could be very interesting (if you live spreadsheets) TopDrawer (Wicklow) - Posts: 52 - 20/03/2023 11:32:29 2465073 Link 0 |
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Thanks for the clarification. This makes sense now. It is hard to see axsituatiin where are not a number of teams level on points come sunday evening. Wicklow need to ensure we beat Waterford first; this is all we can do. Then we need other results to go our way. A draw was no good to either wexford or ourselves at the weekend but i thought a draw was a fair result on the night.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 20/03/2023 12:17:30 2465111 Link 0 |
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It's a strange one alright, but wexford also were victims to this rule a few years ago. We finished level with ( I think ) Louth & Antrim but lost out on score difference despite having beaten Antrim.
Yellaman (Wexford) - Posts: 111 - 20/03/2023 13:08:08 2465145 Link 0 |
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Trouble with referees is on the horizon
Mileythedog (Wicklow) - Posts: 56 - 20/03/2023 16:06:44 2465263 Link 0 |
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Head to head only applies where two teams finishes level on points. If more than two teams finishes level, then scoring averages apply. This was the rule up to last year unless the rule has changed.
Jack L (None) - Posts: 3099 - 20/03/2023 20:49:16 2465373 Link 0 |
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Good luck to the u20s tonight..a very difficult opening game for them but they have been flying all year here's hoping for a win that will bring a good start for an important week for our footballers! stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 124 - 21/03/2023 09:50:37 2465404 Link 0 |
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Any news on an u20 team for tonight? Gaalover1 (Wicklow) - Posts: 2 - 21/03/2023 14:57:31 2465515 Link 0 |
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Any news on an u20 team named for tonight?
Gaalover1 (Wicklow) - Posts: 2 - 21/03/2023 14:59:08 2465517 Link 0 |
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Best of luck to the Wicklow team and management in their final league game away to Waterford. Hopefully we can finish the league campaign with a victory. if we can secure victory, then it is a case of waiting to see if we have done enough to be promoted. It is probably an outstanding chance of promotion at this stage but the minimum requirement is for us to win our game away to Waterford. Disappointing result during the week when our u20s came up short against Dublin in awful conditions in Baltinglass. From following the game on twitter, we seem to get off to a terrible start and were playing catch up throughout the match. A big positive was that the team didn't give up and went close to snatching victory in the closing stages. Hopefully in our next two games, we will get off to a better start and not end up chasing the game. I am a bit perplexed as to why Conor Fee is not starting in the team. It seems that he made a big impact when he came on. Maybe some one could comment on this point, who was at the game. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 25/03/2023 14:29:55 2466474 Link 0 |