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Replying To baire:  "Hard to compete with the green machine that's run in JP oil!"
Probably better than trying to use turf...

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 22/11/2021 12:43:40    2390305

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Anyone on this forum interested in the way our county board are charging for games??anyone attending has to have a ticket,even under 16s being charged €2..it wasn't happening in cork as all under 16s were allowed go with no charge..two under 21 quarter finals in past two days,€10 for each game with all attending having to have a ticket..the munster senior club quarter final is the same price €10..also is there a problem with the Gaelic grounds not being used for these games??garryspillane brought to rathkeale last night and the week before adare/Ballybrown taken to killbreedy..also why are these games in midweek with fellas away in college..I'm pretty sure all players aren't based in limerick..rant over..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1446 - 25/11/2021 18:21:27    2390835

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Anyone on this forum interested in the way our county board are charging for games??anyone attending has to have a ticket,even under 16s being charged €2..it wasn't happening in cork as all under 16s were allowed go with no charge..two under 21 quarter finals in past two days,€10 for each game with all attending having to have a ticket..the munster senior club quarter final is the same price €10..also is there a problem with the Gaelic grounds not being used for these games??garryspillane brought to rathkeale last night and the week before adare/Ballybrown taken to killbreedy..also why are these games in midweek with fellas away in college..I'm pretty sure all players aren't based in limerick..rant over.."
Not sure about the tickets as I have no problem with it but the majority of clubs rather have mid-week games for U21, most of U21 players are students with weekend jobs.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 595 - 28/11/2021 18:34:19    2391051

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Probably better than trying to use turf..."
Good man Shocs. Ace reply! That fella shouldn't be back again bothering good Limerick people, if he's got any bit of savvy at all!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 780 - 29/11/2021 16:06:29    2391129

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Good man Shocs. Ace reply! That fella shouldn't be back again bothering good Limerick people, if he's got any bit of savvy at all!"
You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1118 - 01/12/2021 13:10:21    2391291

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Replying To baire:  "You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago."
Cian lynch got pulled a couple of years ago for a throw. Replays on the Sunday game showed it was legitimate. Limerick have perfected the handpass to a very high standard. If you want to ban it then they've also perfected the short stick pass so would you also like that banned and go back to ground hurling like "the good old days"

The game has never been healthier. Enjoy the incredible skills on show.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 560 - 01/12/2021 13:56:38    2391300

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Replying To baire:  "You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago."
It will be a great day for Limerick when the hand pass is outlawed, as no team tackles the man in possession as hard, as they do and nobody delivers long accurate stick passes better. Speed on the day the hand pass is history I say. We have whipped Tipp in six times in the last nine years in Munster and with the 'auld' handpass gone we will kick their asses even more often. BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3308 - 01/12/2021 15:07:31    2391314

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Replying To baire:  "You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago."
The term 'the green machine' was knocking around in the early '70s, long before JP was a multi billionaire

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3308 - 01/12/2021 18:03:02    2391335

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Replying To baire:  "You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago."
Limerick handpass, stick pass, and go direct. You have the best of all worlds. You often see the likes of Byrnes or Kyle Hayes go long into the full-forward line and hit Gillane and Flanagan, it is one of their most commonly used out balls. What they currently do better than anyone else when they go short or long is they hold possession.

The contradiction for me is that certain people, especially certain pundits and in the media, say Limerick play to a system as if they are one dimensional or they play too much hand passing or short game etc etc but the evidence of watching any of the Limerick games back and seeing the variety of play and the difficulty of other teams shutting them out completely disproves that. I would say there is more variety to the way Limerick are currently playing than any other senior inter-county team has shown in the last two years.


People are mad to put a label on this Limerick team and say they only play "x" way. The likes of Cian Lynch is one of the most creative and "off the cuff" players ever to play the game, he is always playing heads up hurling and thinking two steps ahead. Kyle Hayes is another who you never know what he is going to do as half back, the same for Diarmuid Byrnes. Peter Casey is a complete box of tricks and a brilliant corner forward. The whole point of it is that it is fluid and ever-changing and this notion that it is a system with a very specific way of playing is nonsense IMO,

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 215 - 02/12/2021 11:53:55    2391405

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Do we when are Limerick coming back into training? I'm assuming that we'll see some changes in the panel? Oisin O'Reilly must be in line for a recall? Is Paddy O'Loighlin coming back from his seasons break?

I'd expect Limerick to be one of the latest teams back into training and I'd imagine that they'll be using the league as a means to preparing for championship. I wouldn't be surprised if other teams do the same so you could get some very misleading results early on.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 778 - 02/12/2021 13:05:47    2391422

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Replying To baire:  "You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago."
Ya fair point. Saying that first time hurling provided you make contact with the ball is more suited to junior hurling

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 02/12/2021 20:55:17    2391496

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Ya fair point. Saying that first time hurling provided you make contact with the ball is more suited to junior hurling"
Oh! He'd be the expert on junior hurling alright!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 780 - 03/12/2021 11:23:56    2391527

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Replying To baire:  "You're right, that fella won't be back again to bother the good people of Limerick! lol
Showing your true colours now 'foreveryoung' or should we call you Oisín of Tír na nÓg - far away and out of touch. I was joking as the good people of Limerick, the ones with a sense of humour understand. They were the ones who used the term, The Green Machine and I jokingly commented that it was well run on JP oil. Once the Tipp lads get their way and ban the throw pass neither turf nor oil will be sufficient, we'll be back to off the cuff, first time hurling like it used to be some years ago."
I just think the Tipp Board, as opposed to a few poor loser agitators, will be reluctant to again change hurling rules significantly just because Limerick have swept them aside over the past few years. The last time they did that was after '73, when they had the square ball rule changed, and they did not win a match in Munster for almost ten years after that.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3308 - 03/12/2021 15:08:23    2391549

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Replying To Dealer:  "Do we when are Limerick coming back into training? I'm assuming that we'll see some changes in the panel? Oisin O'Reilly must be in line for a recall? Is Paddy O'Loighlin coming back from his seasons break?

I'd expect Limerick to be one of the latest teams back into training and I'd imagine that they'll be using the league as a means to preparing for championship. I wouldn't be surprised if other teams do the same so you could get some very misleading results early on."
Limerick will be back training in the new year

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 560 - 03/12/2021 17:02:56    2391561

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I just think the Tipp Board, as opposed to a few poor loser agitators, will be reluctant to again change hurling rules significantly just because Limerick have swept them aside over the past few years. The last time they did that was after '73, when they had the square ball rule changed, and they did not win a match in Munster for almost ten years after that."
Have you read this interview with Michael Cleary? A 'poor loser agitator'? I don't think so to be fair.
https://globalstorytribe.com/would-cutting-back-on-hand-passes-make-for-better-hurling/
There are a lot of good things about hurling but I'd agree with him about the 'rucks' being a blight on the game.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1118 - 03/12/2021 17:16:18    2391562

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Ya fair point. Saying that first time hurling provided you make contact with the ball is more suited to junior hurling"
You seem to be suggesting that all those munster hurlers of the past, the Limerick ones included were of Junior standard!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1118 - 03/12/2021 17:18:06    2391563

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I just think the Tipp Board, as opposed to a few poor loser agitators, will be reluctant to again change hurling rules significantly just because Limerick have swept them aside over the past few years. The last time they did that was after '73, when they had the square ball rule changed, and they did not win a match in Munster for almost ten years after that."
I think the reason Tipp had a bad ten years after 1973 had nothing to do with rule changes. They just weren't good enough, although with a little luck they would have beaten Cork in 1976. They also came close to beating Cork in 1979, and had a few drawn games against both Limerick and Clare in that period, but generally they were well off the standard of the top counties at the time. In any event, anyone who thinks that changing the handpass rules will help to stop Limerick is sadly mistaken. They can use the short stick pass as good as, if not better than anyone else. Having said that, I do believe referees need to enforce the "visible striking action" part of the rule. The multiple successive "handpasses" used by some teams are bringing hurling games closer to football.
On a different note, I was saddened to hear of the death of Tom McGarry, RIP, a true Limerick legend who unfortunately played at a time when Limerick never progressed beyond the Munster championship. I was lucky to see him play with Munster a few times and I believe he was equally brilliant at football and handball.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 335 - 03/12/2021 17:21:20    2391564

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Replying To midlands:  "I think the reason Tipp had a bad ten years after 1973 had nothing to do with rule changes. They just weren't good enough, although with a little luck they would have beaten Cork in 1976. They also came close to beating Cork in 1979, and had a few drawn games against both Limerick and Clare in that period, but generally they were well off the standard of the top counties at the time. In any event, anyone who thinks that changing the handpass rules will help to stop Limerick is sadly mistaken. They can use the short stick pass as good as, if not better than anyone else. Having said that, I do believe referees need to enforce the "visible striking action" part of the rule. The multiple successive "handpasses" used by some teams are bringing hurling games closer to football.
On a different note, I was saddened to hear of the death of Tom McGarry, RIP, a true Limerick legend who unfortunately played at a time when Limerick never progressed beyond the Munster championship. I was lucky to see him play with Munster a few times and I believe he was equally brilliant at football and handball."
I agree with all that- I was just playing up Baire a bit. Absolutely agree also re Tom McGarry- he was also brilliant at Soccer and Rugby. Probably the greatest All round Sportsman Limerick ever produced.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3308 - 03/12/2021 19:57:32    2391585

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Replying To baire:  "Have you read this interview with Michael Cleary? A 'poor loser agitator'? I don't think so to be fair.
https://globalstorytribe.com/would-cutting-back-on-hand-passes-make-for-better-hurling/
There are a lot of good things about hurling but I'd agree with him about the 'rucks' being a blight on the game."
Yes Baire- but why the big deal about Limerick. Look at the All Ireland Final and the Cork/Limerick Semi Final of '18 - incidentally a brilliant match- and you will see that Cork do a lot more hand passing than Limerick ever did and have been doing that since about 2000 (there were eight hand passes in the lead up to Corks goal in the AIF alone). I would have given more credit to Cleary and O'Donovan, who got his first chance to play inter county with his native Limerick, if they just asked to have this matter looked into rather than picking out Limerick the first chance they got. I think it is legitimate to ask the question has this anything with the fact that Tipp has lost to Limerick four years in a row in the championship, a fate that never befelled any Tipp side in the past. It all smacks of Pat Spillane's approach, roaring 'puke football' when he couldn't take it, that a small county were frequently overcoming his beloved Kerry. Down in the South when we got a decent football team together early in this Century, we saw at close quarters how well Kerry were able to play 'puke football'. You had Joanne Cantwell on RTE also making a fool of herself last year, asking the panel 'Will referees clamp down on Limerick so?', when her question should have been 'will referees clamp down on throwing the ball'.
Finally, I did not hear any complaint from Tipp last year when Cian Lynch was pulled as Hegarty drove the ball to the Tipp net for what was shown on play back to be a perfect hand pass. To add insult to injury the referee allowed a Tipp 'goal' when John McGrath clearly picked the ball off the ground and actually then clearly threw the ball to his brother Noel who goaled. A good job we won by nine points anyway.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3308 - 03/12/2021 20:22:05    2391587

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Big win for cappamore club last night winning the county under 21A hurling title . Might not be at the Big big club levels but a club that are doing a lot of things right and keeping a strong hurling level in their parish . There are only theee grades in all hurling competitions and it's not easy win any of them . Na piarsaigh and Doon are in premier final .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 343 - 04/12/2021 07:24:02    2391591

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