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Replying To Ice_cream_dromore: "That is right eoinog. It's madness playing football in the rain in June. Club football in Sligo is dying. Reduce it to 6 a side and play it off over a weekend in Enniscrones indoor astroturf. League May Bank Holiday. Championship October Bank Holiday. The important thing here is that lads don't play for the Summer." Surely the Connacht Club Ground Of The Year would be able to to increase the number to a 7 a side competition or maybe 9 a side if you exclude the referee, linesmen and umpire's. They take up a lot of space
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Replying To eoinog: "Neither have I heard of anyone else travelling. Most of the lads that went to America are home. Some of them never kicked a ball, failed to get sanctioned from Croker" But they had a nice time. That's the important thing.
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No championship fixtures dates or venues yet. Round 1 of championship hurling this week was only fixed in the past couple of days and then refixed. CCC back their old ways it seems. I still believe a well planned calendar with fixed days would help clubs hold onto players more than anything else.
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 45 - 25/07/2024 12:28:28
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "No championship fixtures dates or venues yet. Round 1 of championship hurling this week was only fixed in the past couple of days and then refixed. CCC back their old ways it seems. I still believe a well planned calendar with fixed days would help clubs hold onto players more than anything else." All they need to do is look at Ros CB and how they can do it.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 25/07/2024 13:44:56
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "All they need to do is look at Ros CB and how they can do it." What does that look like?
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "What does that look like?" All the Group fixtures (wknds 4/8, 18/8 , 1/9 )were sent out about a month ago .
All the Aug weekend fixtures public since last weekend.
All the League Finals played in July.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 25/07/2024 14:44:39
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "All the Group fixtures (wknds 4/8, 18/8 , 1/9 )were sent out about a month ago .
All the Aug weekend fixtures public since last weekend.
All the League Finals played in July." No reason why it cant be that way in every county. Should be months of notice for fixtures.
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 45 - 25/07/2024 14:56:15
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I don't think it's love for the man. I personally have no strong feelings on him either way. He's from Armagh after all :)
I just think he's made progress and the alternative might not be as good as we'd hope for.
I'd also argue that to say we are nowhere near a division 2 side is hardly right, considering a win away from promotion. We only played division 3 sides, Leitrim, Galway and in the Tailteann so who do you want us to beat? We were a hairs breadth from beating Galway and went to extra time with a decent Down side who, I think it's safe to say would have been well ahead in recent times. Now we are every bit as good of a side. We are closing the gap slowly in my honest opinion but Rome wasn't built in a day.
In terms of your point on any senior player not being able to make an U20 team, I think your point makes little sense and in any case is most definitely wrong. I'm not sure what level you played until but it's a huge jump whether you like it or not and I think if you asked any of the starting 15 in there, they'd tell you the same.
Again, I don't care for McEntee either way, but wouldn't be surprised if we're talking here in 2 years time saying it's a pity he didn't stay. Hope I'm wrong." I talking not just his season but in his tenure. Also Mayo " nearly" won several all irelands, would they consider that sucess? . 9 counties in Ulster, outside of Fermanagh and Antrim the rest wod expect to take out Down in championship. I remember a time when there was no nearly, we expected and did beat Mayo, Galway, Roscommon, Tyrone in Championship.
MrUnderhill (Sligo) - Posts: 59 - 25/07/2024 15:59:45
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Replying To MrUnderhill: "I talking not just his season but in his tenure. Also Mayo " nearly" won several all irelands, would they consider that sucess? . 9 counties in Ulster, outside of Fermanagh and Antrim the rest wod expect to take out Down in championship. I remember a time when there was no nearly, we expected and did beat Mayo, Galway, Roscommon, Tyrone in Championship." So do I Underhill but we can't just jump back to them days overnight. You know it doesn't work that way.
Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 45 - 25/07/2024 18:48:52
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Replying To Ice_cream_dromore: "That'll be a big sign Sligonian. What sort of material should Taypot be using for it? Is Corriboard good enough I wonder?
And nor do I care what he has achieved. I think we need to live in an equal society where the opportunity to manage sligo is open to anyone. It should be part of Club Sligo draw. Would you come in with me if I went for it after he goes?" Plenty of Sligonian's available better than me ;)
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1693 - 25/07/2024 21:38:29
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I don't think it's love for the man. I personally have no strong feelings on him either way. He's from Armagh after all :)
I just think he's made progress and the alternative might not be as good as we'd hope for.
I'd also argue that to say we are nowhere near a division 2 side is hardly right, considering a win away from promotion. We only played division 3 sides, Leitrim, Galway and in the Tailteann so who do you want us to beat? We were a hairs breadth from beating Galway and went to extra time with a decent Down side who, I think it's safe to say would have been well ahead in recent times. Now we are every bit as good of a side. We are closing the gap slowly in my honest opinion but Rome wasn't built in a day.
In terms of your point on any senior player not being able to make an U20 team, I think your point makes little sense and in any case is most definitely wrong. I'm not sure what level you played until but it's a huge jump whether you like it or not and I think if you asked any of the starting 15 in there, they'd tell you the same.
Again, I don't care for McEntee either way, but wouldn't be surprised if we're talking here in 2 years time saying it's a pity he didn't stay. Hope I'm wrong." Bumblebee some people in Sligo have strong feelings for him actually I would say far too strong of feelings towards him. Anytime he is mentioned on here there is always a massive overreaction.
There will come a time soon when Paul Henry and Enda Mitchell will be looking at a senior management role with Sligo. McGowan is already there and his previous experience cannot be discounted. Those lads won't wait around forever. Giving McEntee a couple of years will force those to look outside Sligo. I also think Sligo would attract good outside candidates given the underage success.
Louth were forced to get a replacement for Harte and it worked out well. It can go either way but there are good candidates out there. There is too much fear evident to make that call.
There is very little chance of regression with the calibre of player coming through next few years. Sean Boyle has helped us close the gap from underage to senior conditioning.
The bottom 10 counties are not good and that is who McEntee has beaten. If Taypot was to list on his sign the teams McEntee has beaten its not impressive at all. Is Westmeath in the league the only Top 20 team he's beaten? I just checked. In 4 years that it is.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1693 - 25/07/2024 22:09:03
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Replying To Ice_cream_dromore: "That is right eoinog. It's madness playing football in the rain in June. Club football in Sligo is dying. Reduce it to 6 a side and play it off over a weekend in Enniscrones indoor astroturf. League May Bank Holiday. Championship October Bank Holiday. The important thing here is that lads don't play for the Summer." These replies are gold Ice_cream_dromore.
johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 69 - 26/07/2024 08:48:17
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Replying To Sligonian: "Bumblebee some people in Sligo have strong feelings for him actually I would say far too strong of feelings towards him. Anytime he is mentioned on here there is always a massive overreaction.
There will come a time soon when Paul Henry and Enda Mitchell will be looking at a senior management role with Sligo. McGowan is already there and his previous experience cannot be discounted. Those lads won't wait around forever. Giving McEntee a couple of years will force those to look outside Sligo. I also think Sligo would attract good outside candidates given the underage success.
Louth were forced to get a replacement for Harte and it worked out well. It can go either way but there are good candidates out there. There is too much fear evident to make that call.
There is very little chance of regression with the calibre of player coming through next few years. Sean Boyle has helped us close the gap from underage to senior conditioning.
The bottom 10 counties are not good and that is who McEntee has beaten. If Taypot was to list on his sign the teams McEntee has beaten its not impressive at all. Is Westmeath in the league the only Top 20 team he's beaten? I just checked. In 4 years that it is." How can you say there's very little chance of regression. We haven't won a connacht senior title since 2007 and that was our 3rd ever. Kerry are finding out that underage success guarantees nothing and they won 5 minor all irelands. We could very easily find ourselves back in the doldrums in div 4.
I don't know where this entitlement to be beating the mayos/Galways or top 10 counties of this world is coming from because its certainly not based on any facts or historical data. Yes we have done well recently underage but it's no guarantee of senior success in the future regardless of whether its mcentee or aladdins genie in charge
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Replying To Sligonian: "Bumblebee some people in Sligo have strong feelings for him actually I would say far too strong of feelings towards him. Anytime he is mentioned on here there is always a massive overreaction.
There will come a time soon when Paul Henry and Enda Mitchell will be looking at a senior management role with Sligo. McGowan is already there and his previous experience cannot be discounted. Those lads won't wait around forever. Giving McEntee a couple of years will force those to look outside Sligo. I also think Sligo would attract good outside candidates given the underage success.
Louth were forced to get a replacement for Harte and it worked out well. It can go either way but there are good candidates out there. There is too much fear evident to make that call.
There is very little chance of regression with the calibre of player coming through next few years. Sean Boyle has helped us close the gap from underage to senior conditioning.
The bottom 10 counties are not good and that is who McEntee has beaten. If Taypot was to list on his sign the teams McEntee has beaten its not impressive at all. Is Westmeath in the league the only Top 20 team he's beaten? I just checked. In 4 years that it is." I never got much of a love affair vibe. And I never thought there was an overreaction. Just people who have sat through a decade of deplorable rubbish, who sees the gaps to the bigger teams slowly closing and don't want to panic and fall flat on our behind again.
As for PH and EM, they deserve great credit for their roles in the U20s success. Though, Underhill thinks only an All Ireland win might be success so you can make your own mind up. I think it was extremely successful. But I'll make a call now, they won't manage the senior team and if they do, it won't end well. If I'm wrong on that, I'll admit it so save this post Sligonian and I say that not be any way disparaging.
Louth were forced to get a replacement and went from one strong setup to another. What's your point?
With regards, to little chance of regression, I wouldn't feel as strongly. A couple of injuries or guys travelling and we could struggle big time in my opinion. We haven't beaten many top 20 sides true, but how many have we played? Look where we were 4 years ago for goodness sake. We were bottom of the barrel.
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I never got much of a love affair vibe. And I never thought there was an overreaction. Just people who have sat through a decade of deplorable rubbish, who sees the gaps to the bigger teams slowly closing and don't want to panic and fall flat on our behind again.
As for PH and EM, they deserve great credit for their roles in the U20s success. Though, Underhill thinks only an All Ireland win might be success so you can make your own mind up. I think it was extremely successful. But I'll make a call now, they won't manage the senior team and if they do, it won't end well. If I'm wrong on that, I'll admit it so save this post Sligonian and I say that not be any way disparaging.
Louth were forced to get a replacement and went from one strong setup to another. What's your point?
With regards, to little chance of regression, I wouldn't feel as strongly. A couple of injuries or guys travelling and we could struggle big time in my opinion. We haven't beaten many top 20 sides true, but how many have we played? Look where we were 4 years ago for goodness sake. We were bottom of the barrel." I am really getting worried now. For the second time in probably a week I find myself agreeing with bumblebee. I must have Covid or maybe something worse.
Paul Henry is an excellent manager and did a fantastic job with the minor and the U.20 teams. However he has never coached an adult club team so to include him in the conversation at this juncture is rubbish. Hopefully he will do a few years with a club team improve his C.V and then he might be ready for a role with Sligo. Dessie Sloyane is after having a torrid time in Longford and even though he brought his club team to the All Ireland in the juniors a few years ago plus a Connacht title with Sligo his tenure with Longford has done more harm than good. Mitchell is very good but again very little experience for a prominent role with our senior team. Noel Mc Guire is very capable and if he was interested he could work well with perhaps Gerry Mc Gowan as coach . Ross Donovan has brought Harps from the bottom of Div 2 to the upper end of Div 1. If he brings them up to Senior championship in the next year or two he will be another option as he has also worked with the successful minor and U.20 teams. Kevin Johnson is certainly a name that I would be interested in getting on Board. Nice and quietly he is building a good C.V with titles in Galway and Mayo where the standard is much higher than here in Sligo. If Corofin fail to win the county championship this year he could be a free agent again and I would love to see him involved at some age group with Sligo.
All of the above is pure speculation and I have deliberately left out the word expenses because we are not awash with money and in all things in life money talks.
I am quiet content with the current manager.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1861 - 26/07/2024 11:43:28
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Replying To Sligonian: "All the best to the Sligo ladies u18 team in the in the Intermediate All Ireland final against Tyrone this Saturday in Brewster park in Enniskillen at 2pm. It is being live streamed on youtube. Hopefully we go one step further this year and plenty of support is there." First time poster who likes to keep an eye on the page from time to time. It is always very interesting to read all the different views on here about Sligo GAA. While everyone may not agree with Sligonian and Eoinog opinions at least it is getting discussion amongst the supporters on the forum.
As someone with two daughters (9&12) who are football mad it worries me about their future in the game.
While everyone here have an opinion on whether the mens management stay or go and giving opinions on their work till now, I think one point is being totally missed. Brendan Leonard was chairman when McEntee was appointed. In the mean time Sean Carroll has took over and the culture seems to be a lot better across the board. This is a huge factor in my opinion that the county has began to gain some momentum from being so much more professional.
Here's why I'm concerned about my daughter's. They don't have a future to play for Sligo LGFA at the moment due to a County Board not fit to function. They currently have a talented minor team made up of some special players who are multi talented in many sports. I have no doubt these players will not be picking Gaelic Football for the future due to the lack of ambition and they way they do be treated at the moment.
Making All Ireland finals at underage are papering up the cracks.
Stories have circulated this week that the senior management have been sacked without notification and against players wishes.
This weekend should be one to look forward too with an All- Ireland final taking place but there is no hype or buzz around the county at all. On social media all you see is posts looking for money in such an unprofessional way.
Maybe this comment can get some discussion going because the ladies players in this county deserve go much better. It needs a Sean Carroll type leader as soon as possible.
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Replying To eoinog: "I am really getting worried now. For the second time in probably a week I find myself agreeing with bumblebee. I must have Covid or maybe something worse.
Paul Henry is an excellent manager and did a fantastic job with the minor and the U.20 teams. However he has never coached an adult club team so to include him in the conversation at this juncture is rubbish. Hopefully he will do a few years with a club team improve his C.V and then he might be ready for a role with Sligo. Dessie Sloyane is after having a torrid time in Longford and even though he brought his club team to the All Ireland in the juniors a few years ago plus a Connacht title with Sligo his tenure with Longford has done more harm than good. Mitchell is very good but again very little experience for a prominent role with our senior team. Noel Mc Guire is very capable and if he was interested he could work well with perhaps Gerry Mc Gowan as coach . Ross Donovan has brought Harps from the bottom of Div 2 to the upper end of Div 1. If he brings them up to Senior championship in the next year or two he will be another option as he has also worked with the successful minor and U.20 teams. Kevin Johnson is certainly a name that I would be interested in getting on Board. Nice and quietly he is building a good C.V with titles in Galway and Mayo where the standard is much higher than here in Sligo. If Corofin fail to win the county championship this year he could be a free agent again and I would love to see him involved at some age group with Sligo.
All of the above is pure speculation and I have deliberately left out the word expenses because we are not awash with money and in all things in life money talks.
I am quiet content with the current manager." I'll get Sligonian behind me yet
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I'll get Sligonian behind me yet" If you do I'll will terminate our short courtship (((
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Replying To Bumblebee123: "I never got much of a love affair vibe. And I never thought there was an overreaction. Just people who have sat through a decade of deplorable rubbish, who sees the gaps to the bigger teams slowly closing and don't want to panic and fall flat on our behind again.
As for PH and EM, they deserve great credit for their roles in the U20s success. Though, Underhill thinks only an All Ireland win might be success so you can make your own mind up. I think it was extremely successful. But I'll make a call now, they won't manage the senior team and if they do, it won't end well. If I'm wrong on that, I'll admit it so save this post Sligonian and I say that not be any way disparaging.
Louth were forced to get a replacement and went from one strong setup to another. What's your point?
With regards, to little chance of regression, I wouldn't feel as strongly. A couple of injuries or guys travelling and we could struggle big time in my opinion. We haven't beaten many top 20 sides true, but how many have we played? Look where we were 4 years ago for goodness sake. We were bottom of the barrel." That is interesting that you think that. Is it you don't think underage management transfers to senior adult? It maybe that they need to develop with a club first. That's a big call but fair enough if you think that because it is different. Time will tell but I think Enda Mitchell would be a serious head coach of any team.
My point on Louth is we shouldn't always fear the unknown, the grass can be greener. I would love Sean Carroll and this CB to have the opportunity to replace McEntee because Id have confidence in them getting a better management team.. As LGFAN said McEntee was hired by Leonard.
We were low 4 years ago, even 2 years ago London should have beaten us under McEntee in our home patch. We are in a better place now but for me progress has been slow. You have to remember Keane was involved 4 years ago and was part of that decline. Boyles S&C and calibre of player coming in are factors too in our improvement. That part won't wont regress. The squad should get stronger with Spillane, Towey and hopefully Reilly back and the influx of u20s and those in 2nd/3rd years out.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1693 - 26/07/2024 16:56:28
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Replying To eoinog: "I am really getting worried now. For the second time in probably a week I find myself agreeing with bumblebee. I must have Covid or maybe something worse.
Paul Henry is an excellent manager and did a fantastic job with the minor and the U.20 teams. However he has never coached an adult club team so to include him in the conversation at this juncture is rubbish. Hopefully he will do a few years with a club team improve his C.V and then he might be ready for a role with Sligo. Dessie Sloyane is after having a torrid time in Longford and even though he brought his club team to the All Ireland in the juniors a few years ago plus a Connacht title with Sligo his tenure with Longford has done more harm than good. Mitchell is very good but again very little experience for a prominent role with our senior team. Noel Mc Guire is very capable and if he was interested he could work well with perhaps Gerry Mc Gowan as coach . Ross Donovan has brought Harps from the bottom of Div 2 to the upper end of Div 1. If he brings them up to Senior championship in the next year or two he will be another option as he has also worked with the successful minor and U.20 teams. Kevin Johnson is certainly a name that I would be interested in getting on Board. Nice and quietly he is building a good C.V with titles in Galway and Mayo where the standard is much higher than here in Sligo. If Corofin fail to win the county championship this year he could be a free agent again and I would love to see him involved at some age group with Sligo.
All of the above is pure speculation and I have deliberately left out the word expenses because we are not awash with money and in all things in life money talks.
I am quiet content with the current manager." That is all actually fair enough.
Does anyone know what McGowan is involved in currently? Does he not deserve a chance at management rather than coach?
Someone recently said Dessie is manager of Knockmore? He was selector with Christie at Longford so wouldn't be mainly responsible. They were very poor though last few years.
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