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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "It comes down what peoples interpretation of the ball being in play.

Is the ball in play once the referee blows his whistle or indicates that the ball is in play? Or does he have to wait for the ball to be physically played.

For example, if the freetaker takes too long, the referee throws the ball up. So yes, in that instance the ball is in play.

I don't know the right answer, I'm open to opinions."
Think it's when the ball has physically moved that "in play" becomes a factor. So in this case it was still in the Dungloe player's hands. That's my interpretation anyway, but I'm open to correction.

Lord help us if these new rules all get brought in. This weekend's trial games will be very interesting.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9507 - 16/10/2024 14:19:13    2575300

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Replying To greenfan:  "What was wrong with the penalty call? Did u see what happened ?"
A lot of people on about the ball not being in play when the incident happened. What's your opinion on that.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2552 - 16/10/2024 14:47:16    2575309

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Interesting one with the penalty decision, if the ball was in play or not, I cant see anything in the rules that would cover it.
I found an article from 2014 where similar happened -

"Coldrick is one of the most respected referees in Gaelic football but his final decision, to cancel a sideline kick for Tyrone and replace it with a free much closer to goal for an off-the-ball foul on Sean Cavanagh, had many prominent experts scratching their heads yesterday and reaching for their rule-books.

Referees chief Pat McEnaney admitted last night that they are "seeking clarification" on the decision.

"There is nothing in the rulebook that covers that situation," he said.

"There's nothing in the rules that says you cannot award a free in that instance but we are seeking clarification on it from the Standing Committee on Playing Rules," he explained"

I dont know if they did get clarification or not, but cant see anything about it in the GAA rules.

Tribes88 (Galway) - Posts: 11 - 16/10/2024 15:15:06    2575316

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Replying To rorysboys:  "A lot of people on about the ball not being in play when the incident happened. What's your opinion on that."
I don't think the ball has to be in play. If a defender is holding a forward, he's potentially preventing him from getting into a scoring position or moving to receive the ball when it's kicked

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 566 - 16/10/2024 19:18:35    2575372

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I personally don't think it was a penalty regardless of the ball in play or not. The Dungloe player was being cute trying to win it and it worked. Eunans then showed there class and im glad they did as it wouldn't have been a nice way for it to end if Dungloe for example got a point and eunans didn't reply after the penalty.

naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 495 - 16/10/2024 20:47:36    2575386

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Replying To Tribes88:  "Interesting one with the penalty decision, if the ball was in play or not, I cant see anything in the rules that would cover it.
I found an article from 2014 where similar happened -

"Coldrick is one of the most respected referees in Gaelic football but his final decision, to cancel a sideline kick for Tyrone and replace it with a free much closer to goal for an off-the-ball foul on Sean Cavanagh, had many prominent experts scratching their heads yesterday and reaching for their rule-books.

Referees chief Pat McEnaney admitted last night that they are "seeking clarification" on the decision.

"There is nothing in the rulebook that covers that situation," he said.

"There's nothing in the rules that says you cannot award a free in that instance but we are seeking clarification on it from the Standing Committee on Playing Rules," he explained"

I dont know if they did get clarification or not, but cant see anything about it in the GAA rules."
I don't think anyone knows the right answer. My gut feeling is that it should've been a free from the 13m line.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 694 - 16/10/2024 20:58:59    2575390

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "You can't give a a free or penalty or free when the ball is not in play though.

Joke of a decision and as the Eunans camp have said it needs to be called out."
Which rule states that?

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 429 - 16/10/2024 21:16:33    2575396

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Regardless of what the rule book says I think it's fair enough to say it was a pretty rash call to make at that point in a county final. I'm sure there were similar instances of pulling and dragging across the hour before that, which weren't picked up on.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9507 - 17/10/2024 09:29:41    2575425

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Are Derry about to descend into fiasco like we did in 2023 I wonder? Ever since RG departed things haven't looked right. Initially it appeared that Mickey Harte had them going up to another level after their 2024 NFL win over Dublin. But things went very pear shaped after that as we all know. The Glen lads look like they're aiming for another big push with the club so it could be the case that Derry will be playing catch up if they don't get a new management team in place fairly soon?"
Derry's intensity levels definitely dropped after they won the National League title, it was almost as if beating Dublin in that league final in a packed Croke Park mentally tricked them into thinking they just won the All Ireland and they lost the hunger.

Jim McGuinness exposed them in Ulster, and rather than addressing those tactical gaps, Mickey Harte seemed to take exception over being told what to do and persisted with the keeper outfield and they got destroyed by Armagh afterwards. But in truth Derry weren't playing with the same intensity levels they had in the National league.

They have amazing depth of talent, real All Ireland contenders, I'm surprised managers aren't lined down the street to takeover this team.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1187 - 17/10/2024 09:55:34    2575432

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Replying To Commodore:  "Derry's intensity levels definitely dropped after they won the National League title, it was almost as if beating Dublin in that league final in a packed Croke Park mentally tricked them into thinking they just won the All Ireland and they lost the hunger.

Jim McGuinness exposed them in Ulster, and rather than addressing those tactical gaps, Mickey Harte seemed to take exception over being told what to do and persisted with the keeper outfield and they got destroyed by Armagh afterwards. But in truth Derry weren't playing with the same intensity levels they had in the National league.

They have amazing depth of talent, real All Ireland contenders, I'm surprised managers aren't lined down the street to takeover this team."
For sure. The ingredients are there. They just need a strong leader to drive them on. But we've seen this in the past in Derry. Loads of talent, consistent underage success, a strong vibrant club scene, but for one reason or another can't get their ducks in a row, or sing from the same hymn sheet.

Not having a pop at Derry either, we were in similar disarray not too long ago ourselves. But we can't rest on our laurels either just because we had a decent 2024. Does anyone here know what the status of the Donegal GAA Academy is now?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9507 - 17/10/2024 12:16:32    2575449

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