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Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "I agree the first half display was very encouraging, and to post 1-10 was a great sign. Much improved displays from Paddy Mc, and Jamie Brennnan, although not back to his best, offers that cutting edge that was missing. The negatives in the first half was that we conceeded 1-05. Including the goal, they had a lot of success down our right hand side, picking up relatively handy scores. The goal was a howler, and Patton seems to be carrying the scars of previous mistakes. Don't get me wrong, he's a fantastic keeper, but seems at times to make the wrong decision under high balls. He just doesn't have the physical presence that other keepers have. We would also have to look at our kick out strategy for the next day. Armagh are a big physical team, and they done a job on us yesterday. They were able to win ball out in the middle, and also go after our shorter kick outs. I hope the addition of Langan, McGonagle and Thompson around the middle will rectify this in four weeks time. We also can't ignore the fact that we scored only 4 points in the second half, with two of those coming in the opening five minutes of the half. We scored one point from the 40th minute to the 74th. That also won't be good enough in four weeks time. That's the last three penalties we have missed, two from Michael, one from Paddy. Who do we fancy next? Does Michael Langan take them for St Michael's? A bit left field, but would McFadden Ferry be an option?" Surely Jamie Brennan or Peadar Mogan are penalty taking men? They both have that lower center of gravity look about them. At full strength when we have Murphy, McBrearty, Langan, Thompson, McGee, McGonigle and Hugh McFadden, we have such a wide array of high fielders, that it gives Patton so many extra options that we contend for. I'd still like to have Oisin Gallen back as a taller option than Brennan, he is a huge loss to Donegal and I hope is back in before Championship. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 28/03/2022 14:11:09 2407768 Link
Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "I agree the first half display was very encouraging, and to post 1-10 was a great sign. Much improved displays from Paddy Mc, and Jamie Brennnan, although not back to his best, offers that cutting edge that was missing. The negatives in the first half was that we conceeded 1-05. Including the goal, they had a lot of success down our right hand side, picking up relatively handy scores. The goal was a howler, and Patton seems to be carrying the scars of previous mistakes. Don't get me wrong, he's a fantastic keeper, but seems at times to make the wrong decision under high balls. He just doesn't have the physical presence that other keepers have. We would also have to look at our kick out strategy for the next day. Armagh are a big physical team, and they done a job on us yesterday. They were able to win ball out in the middle, and also go after our shorter kick outs. I hope the addition of Langan, McGonagle and Thompson around the middle will rectify this in four weeks time. We also can't ignore the fact that we scored only 4 points in the second half, with two of those coming in the opening five minutes of the half. We scored one point from the 40th minute to the 74th. That also won't be good enough in four weeks time. That's the last three penalties we have missed, two from Michael, one from Paddy. Who do we fancy next? Does Michael Langan take them for St Michael's? A bit left field, but would McFadden Ferry be an option?" Jason McGee was a highly regarded soccer player so maybe he'd be a better option? In years gone by a lot of county players would have played a bit of soccer in the Donegal league over the winter to keep in shape. Of the current squad I only know of Daire O'Baoíll (Gweedore Utd) & Peadar Mogan (Letterbarrow) that played soccer last winter. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9739 - 28/03/2022 14:32:49 2407775 Link
Replying To fielder: "I noticed that too. Rian O'Neill definitely landed a punch on Shane O'Donnell's head." Yep, O'Neill is definitely in trouble anyway. I'd be surprised if he walks away from this without a ban. The swing was very noticeable. SOD looked to be getting a wile hammering altogether whatever he done as Jemar Hall give him a slap to the head also. MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 28/03/2022 15:56:02 2407802 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Jason McGee was a highly regarded soccer player so maybe he'd be a better option? In years gone by a lot of county players would have played a bit of soccer in the Donegal league over the winter to keep in shape. Of the current squad I only know of Daire O'Baoíll (Gweedore Utd) & Peadar Mogan (Letterbarrow) that played soccer last winter." I don't think Murphy wants to take them anymore anyway which is fair enough. It's probably in his head as much as anything. Maybe just have an aul penalty taker competition for those interested and who's the best is the taker. I sense langan would be good and maybe Thompson. He's a very reliable free taker for NC. I'm never that sure on mcbrearty as he's just not a great finisher of goals. He tends to blast his shots. On the soccer point I think Joel Bradley Walsh is in training and is probably a kind of project player given that he's not played much Gaelic. He was for example very composed in his hat-trick for lyit against ul. He passed the ball into the goal and didn't look like missing the penalty. I'd say his soccer background really helps with that. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 802 - 28/03/2022 17:14:58 2407839 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Would not surprise me one bit to hear that Forker was heavily involved. He is never not "at it". One of the most satisfying things I ever saw at the end of a game was Murphy throwing the ball to him after we battered them in the Ulster semi final in 2020. As if to say, here you go son, you go off and play now with that now that the serious stuff is dealt with. It will be a lot closer in a few weeks time. Just hope suspensions don't derail us too badly beacuse we've had enough absentees through injuries over the course of the league." You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. eirekeeper (Monaghan) - Posts: 121 - 28/03/2022 18:15:38 2407862 Link
Replying To eirekeeper: "You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. " I didn't know that so we may forget about it so, next years league is a long time away and we'll hardly be too worried about the early rounds anyway after winning Sam!! On the penalty situation I think at this stage we should forget Michael and Paddy for taking them, see who else wants to take them and then practice them a lot, it's no that hard in theory anyway! I rem listening to Johnny Giles on Newstalk saying how they used to practice penalties at Leeds, he said he'd always pick his spot and not change his mind then, they won't all go in anyway. This game is set up nicely now, there's a buzz about already from talking to a few lads about it, hope we get a few more men back from injury before then too. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3175 - 28/03/2022 20:33:53 2407884 Link
Replying To eirekeeper: "You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. " I'm pretty sure suspensions arising from this incident will no doubt impact their ability to play in the Championship. There are different types of suspensions with exceptions being applied to the type of red card. You would think punching someone on the face after the game would fall under the category of the highest offense. We will just have to wait and see. MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 28/03/2022 20:37:08 2407886 Link
Replying To eirekeeper: "You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. " Are you sure. Listening to league Sunday last night it sounded like it would carry over to championship. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2609 - 28/03/2022 20:46:09 2407889 Link
Replying To eirekeeper: "You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. " You're wrong there, they are applied to the next game played at the same level. In this case, the next inter county game.. They may be classed as category Three offences. In the official guide, listed as Rule 5.17; 'To behave in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.' The suspension for a Category Three offence is listed in the Official Guide as; 'Minimum: A One Match Suspension in the same Code and at the same Level, applicable to the next Game in the National League OR Inter County Senior Championship. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 624 - 29/03/2022 08:24:24 2407920 Link
Replying To eirekeeper: "You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. " Are you sure about that? I hope you're right. But the way they were talking on Sunday night suspensions could definitely impact the upcoming Championship game. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9739 - 29/03/2022 08:38:44 2407923 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: " Replying To eirekeeper: "You realise that any suspensions arising from this do not impact the championship game in 4 weeks time. They will be carried over to the 2023 league campaign. " I didn't know that so we may forget about it so, next years league is a long time away and we'll hardly be too worried about the early rounds anyway after winning Sam!! On the penalty situation I think at this stage we should forget Michael and Paddy for taking them, see who else wants to take them and then practice them a lot, it's no that hard in theory anyway! I rem listening to Johnny Giles on Newstalk saying how they used to practice penalties at Leeds, he said he'd always pick his spot and not change his mind then, they won't all go in anyway. This game is set up nicely now, there's a buzz about already from talking to a few lads about it, hope we get a few more men back from injury before then too." Yeah the key for penalties is your own conviction. Don't be distracted by what is going on around you. Make an early decision where you're going to put it and stick with it no matter what the goalkeeper is doing. Indecisiveness inevitably leads to a poor contact with the ball and is more easily saved. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9739 - 29/03/2022 09:37:33 2407938 Link
Croke park hopefully will make an early decision. Once the suspensions of any are handed out then the appeals start. Looking at the row a lot more Armagh players are seen striking maybe that's because I didn't want to see a Donegal player striking. I don't believe in this of suspending the same amount of players on every team. If your goin to suspend do it right and don't do a Kip out. One Armagh player definitely has to be worried. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2609 - 29/03/2022 10:31:41 2407978 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "Croke park hopefully will make an early decision. Once the suspensions of any are handed out then the appeals start. Looking at the row a lot more Armagh players are seen striking maybe that's because I didn't want to see a Donegal player striking. I don't believe in this of suspending the same amount of players on every team. If your goin to suspend do it right and don't do a Kip out. One Armagh player definitely has to be worried." For once I agree with you, no cop outs like refs often do giving 2 yellow cards for a scuffle when it was clearly the defender stopping the forward from trying to get away. We need a strong ref for this next game who will crack down early only on the cynical fouling from Armagh. If they are going to suspend players from this incident then do it right, only suspend whoever clearly struck an opponent, no cop outs by suspending equal numbers from each team just to cover their own ars. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal)* - Posts: 3175 - 29/03/2022 11:04:34 2408006 Link
Best of luck to the under 20s tomorrow night. They had a very good warm up competition and are no doubt favourites tomorrow. One and done is certainly a bit harsh though for all teams. Fingers crossed for them. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 802 - 31/03/2022 16:11:50 2408715 Link
All county leagues starting this weekend without much fanfare - maybe due to the exclusion of county players? Anyways at least it gives other players a chance to catch the eye. New format and three up and three down from relevant divisions. Any predictions? I'll go: Div1: Eunans (Winners) Glenfin, Killybegs and Bundoran to make the drop Div 2: Naomh Columba (Winners) Sean MacCumhaills & Buncrana promoted. Moville, Convoy and Red Hughs to go down Div 3: Carndonagh (Winners) Burt and Muff to go up peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1182 - 31/03/2022 16:47:49 2408730 Link
Replying To peiledoir20: "All county leagues starting this weekend without much fanfare - maybe due to the exclusion of county players? Anyways at least it gives other players a chance to catch the eye. New format and three up and three down from relevant divisions. Any predictions? I'll go: Div1: Eunans (Winners) Glenfin, Killybegs and Bundoran to make the drop Div 2: Naomh Columba (Winners) Sean MacCumhaills & Buncrana promoted. Moville, Convoy and Red Hughs to go down Div 3: Carndonagh (Winners) Burt and Muff to go up" Good calls bar N. Columba I think. Aaron Doherty absence be huge. Even if he was there I think they are well off the seniors team. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 31/03/2022 20:22:21 2408766 Link
Looking at the complete National League results Round 1 (A): Donegal 0-11 vs 0-11 Mayo Round 2 (H): Donegal 2-11 vs 1-09 Kildare Round 3 (A): Donegal 0-07 vs 1-13 Kerry Round 4 (H): Donegal 2-10 vs 0-12 Tyrone Round 5 (H): Donegal 0-10 vs 1-12 Monaghan Round 6 (A): Donegal 2-11 vs 2-15 Dublin Round 7 (H): Donegal 1-14 vs 1-13 Armagh Average scored = 1-11 (14 pts) Average conceded = 1-12 (15 pts) The total average is actually flattering us slightly, because we conceded 1-13 on average in the last 5 games and only scored 1-10.4 per game on average, however our scoring did increase in the last 2 matches with players returning. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1332 - 01/04/2022 15:50:00 2408923 Link
Replying To TheRock2121: "Good calls bar N. Columba I think. Aaron Doherty absence be huge. Even if he was there I think they are well off the seniors team." This is my fear with players who will get very little game time during Championship barring a bad run of injuries (hopefully not!). The likes of Aaron & Eunan Doherty, Mark Curran, Tony McClenaghan to name a few. Should they not be released back to their clubs to get some actually game time? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1182 - 01/04/2022 17:22:50 2408953 Link
Replying To peiledoir20: "This is my fear with players who will get very little game time during Championship barring a bad run of injuries (hopefully not!). The likes of Aaron & Eunan Doherty, Mark Curran, Tony McClenaghan to name a few. Should they not be released back to their clubs to get some actually game time?" Yes true enough. On reflection, maybe he will play. The fringe players defo should. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 02/04/2022 09:54:12 2409005 Link
Anyone catch the under 20 game.? Seemed to be a good win for the lads. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 02/04/2022 09:54:54 2409006 Link