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Replying To Lockjaw: "We were at a lower ebb but in terms of player talent and potential there are definite parallels. This is no slight on John Joe Doherty either, he is a brilliant Donegal Gael. But it's fair to say that when McGuinness came in and introduced the successful u21 side to the fold thing started to rapidly improve." It's certainly not meant as a slight on John Joe doherty. He is a great Donegal Gael and he had Neil Mcgee sorted. They were no doubt a tricky bunch and the under 21s and particularly Michael Murphy helped McGuinness. He'd the ground work done with them.
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Replying To rorysboys: "Our chairman slams the keyboard warriors in the democrat today. Fair play to him he must have taken a look at Facebook twitter and the hogan stand. They don't know if the ball is stuffed or blown up had to laugh at that. He's right but" Not everone who has a contradicting opinion to yourself is a "Keyboard warrior"
I see a lot of great discussion about a topic we're all passionate about and I enjoy reading everyone's opinions after our matches.
Anyways I managed to get to Ballybofey for the Tyrone match - fantastic atmosphere in the second half. Hoping we can keep up the momentum this weekend.
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Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "Donegals tails were up just before half time. Paddy Mc, Hughie and Ryan McHugh from what I recall were chirping at the referee. They were complaining about a line ball that went Tyrones way. So the verbals were going as they approached the tunnel. Most Tyrone players stood back. From what I could see then, Hughie was giving a bit, and you could hear a bit of commotion. Around half way through the break, a Donegal man, who would have access all areas, arrived and said that there had been a little bit going on, and that the Tyrone Co Board Secretary had to be removed from the referees room." Thanks for the update. That's the stuff. Take no nonsense from anybody.
AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 03/03/2022 13:30:04
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Replying To rorysboys: "Our chairman slams the keyboard warriors in the democrat today. Fair play to him he must have taken a look at Facebook twitter and the hogan stand. They don't know if the ball is stuffed or blown up had to laugh at that. He's right but" It's a pity he wasn't as visible or vocal during the Kilcar-Glenties appeals debacle...
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1268 - 03/03/2022 13:39:57
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Replying To Donegal2022: "Not everone who has a contradicting opinion to yourself is a "Keyboard warrior"
I see a lot of great discussion about a topic we're all passionate about and I enjoy reading everyone's opinions after our matches.
Anyways I managed to get to Ballybofey for the Tyrone match - fantastic atmosphere in the second half. Hoping we can keep up the momentum this weekend." Big difference being a keyboard warrior and posting on a forum. I don't mind a good debate on football but not when they take it overboard. Do you honestly think our chairman would air his views in the papers if it wasn't happening. I agree 100 per cent with every thing he says.
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Replying To peiledoir20: "It's a pity he wasn't as visible or vocal during the Kilcar-Glenties appeals debacle..." A lot of your posts lately are about the chairman r u a ballyshannon man with a grudge.
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Replying To rorysboys: "A lot of your posts lately are about the chairman r u a ballyshannon man with a grudge." Last count i had 134 posts, two of which were about the topic you mentioned.
'A lot' must have a different meaning down in Na Rossa than it does elsewhere.
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Replying To peiledoir20: "Last count i had 134 posts, two of which were about the topic you mentioned.
'A lot' must have a different meaning down in Na Rossa than it does elsewhere." Not being smart with you but just wondering after beating Tyrone you were more concerned with Mc Grath being in the dugout. Nothing personal against you .were all Donegal men who want the same things.. in fairness to you your a fair poster.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2645 - 03/03/2022 15:54:45
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Replying To rorysboys: "Not being smart with you but just wondering after beating Tyrone you were more concerned with Mc Grath being in the dugout. Nothing personal against you .were all Donegal men who want the same things.. in fairness to you your a fair poster." It's nothing personal from my end either. I think the admin people should focus on admin and let the football people concentrate on that with the exception of the county secretary who needs to be there. I've yet to see any of the players in the boardroom or on commitees.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1268 - 03/03/2022 16:39:25
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Our chairman should remain quiet and get his facts correct. We were not aiming criticism at the young or old players. I firmly believe and always have believed we have a great bunch of players.
We were questioning the management and there tactics, and whether he is the right man to bring us to the next level.
But our chairman knows this and was just deflecting attention away from his buddy, our manager.
And not once have i seen any criticism towards any player on social media. There was plenty about our tactics and where we are going.
Its a pity our chairman was not as vocal when the position of manager was available. We may have got more candidates for the job.
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Was interested to read the Chairman's comments. I would say that most posters on this forum attend matches, and are entitled to their opinions. Most opinions here are well formed, on whichever side of the fence they lie. I personally thought his comments were arrogant; he referenced his own great opinion in his programme notes. Well I certainly don't buy a programme to read his opinion. Does he think he's Alex Ferguson?
My own personal opinion is that the in recent years appointments have been fairly closed shop. Also, the Vice Chairperson of the County Board should not be from the same club as the Chairman. To me, it stifles debate and even accountability. I think it's his last year anyway, but I think a change will be welcome.
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Replying To rorysboys: "Our chairman slams the keyboard warriors in the democrat today. Fair play to him he must have taken a look at Facebook twitter and the hogan stand. They don't know if the ball is stuffed or blown up had to laugh at that. He's right but" While I agree some of the criticism on here of Declan has been a bit harsh, I only noticed maybe one or two people actually being a bit insulting which was a bit much alright.
If criticism of the team performances and a few questions around that constitutes 'knowing nothing' and being a 'keyboard warrior' then it speaks more of hyper sensitivity really than a lot else. If people are buying county jersies and paying to see the team then they're entitled to a view. I doubt very much that the majority of posters on here are anything other than genuine Donegal fans. They would be posting on a forum about rally cars or something otherwise.
I think the one thing we can all agree on is we want Donegal to be successful. Most people would feel there is a very strong panel of players now needing to fulfil their potential. It's a nice problem to have. Plenty of counties would kill to have that dilemma. This is what bugs people who probably now expect more progress this far into Bonner's tenure. What's wrong with that? I for one hope Declan lifts Sam with this group. Hopefully last weekend was a big lift for the management and players with big hitters to return to our talented squad.
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Replying To Donegal_abroad: "While I agree some of the criticism on here of Declan has been a bit harsh, I only noticed maybe one or two people actually being a bit insulting which was a bit much alright.
If criticism of the team performances and a few questions around that constitutes 'knowing nothing' and being a 'keyboard warrior' then it speaks more of hyper sensitivity really than a lot else. If people are buying county jersies and paying to see the team then they're entitled to a view. I doubt very much that the majority of posters on here are anything other than genuine Donegal fans. They would be posting on a forum about rally cars or something otherwise.
I think the one thing we can all agree on is we want Donegal to be successful. Most people would feel there is a very strong panel of players now needing to fulfil their potential. It's a nice problem to have. Plenty of counties would kill to have that dilemma. This is what bugs people who probably now expect more progress this far into Bonner's tenure. What's wrong with that? I for one hope Declan lifts Sam with this group. Hopefully last weekend was a big lift for the management and players with big hitters to return to our talented squad." More than one or two I could count about at least 7 or 8 who constantly on managements back. They disappear when we win as you should have noticed since Saturday night. It's the same on Facebook it even started at half time on Saturday night. . Mc graths right some of about there knowledge of football. I've no complaint about the majority of posters who are fair in there opinion. Which is good even one of Bonner's biggest lambasters came on and put up a fair post after the game.
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Replying To The keeper: "Our chairman should remain quiet and get his facts correct. We were not aiming criticism at the young or old players. I firmly believe and always have believed we have a great bunch of players.
We were questioning the management and there tactics, and whether he is the right man to bring us to the next level.
But our chairman knows this and was just deflecting attention away from his buddy, our manager.
And not once have i seen any criticism towards any player on social media. There was plenty about our tactics and where we are going.
Its a pity our chairman was not as vocal when the position of manager was available. We may have got more candidates for the job." Mc grath has you boys sussed out. About time.
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Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "Was interested to read the Chairman's comments. I would say that most posters on this forum attend matches, and are entitled to their opinions. Most opinions here are well formed, on whichever side of the fence they lie. I personally thought his comments were arrogant; he referenced his own great opinion in his programme notes. Well I certainly don't buy a programme to read his opinion. Does he think he's Alex Ferguson?
My own personal opinion is that the in recent years appointments have been fairly closed shop. Also, the Vice Chairperson of the County Board should not be from the same club as the Chairman. To me, it stifles debate and even accountability. I think it's his last year anyway, but I think a change will be welcome." There needs to be a change and it needs to be young ex players there likes of John Haran, John Gildea, Brendan Devenney or Damien Diver to name a few would regenerate the the board. Im only naming these as examples but this is the core group we should be looking to.
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Well, two things - I don't think you are giving Mayo enough credit generally although this current team is without a doubt weaker than that great team they had in the 10s that came up against Dublin.
Second thing - I'm not talking about All-Ireland final day. If we met Mayo in an All-Ireland quarter final they would rightfully be favourites and I'd doubt our ability to overturn them. That's purely down to how we've (mis)handled the big games over the last few years.
Another thing, at full strength yes I think talent wise at full strength we have a really excellent team. But the reality is we are not and have not been full strength for a long time. There always feels to be one or two missing, and key men at that, whether it's McBrearty's cruciate, EBG's horror injury, Murphy being rushed back - every step of the way you think "Jeez if only we had everyone we'd give anyone a rattle". I think it's something we need to stop because the nature of it, the likelihood of getting an injury free run at Sam is tiny.
I do agree with you that last year against Tyrone we seemed well set up and fought really well considering all the conditions and the sending off, although again, I may be repeating myself but getting motivated and battling against Tyrone isn't really what I'm worried about.
I love your optimism and I think it is wide open this year so there is an opportunity there, for lots of counties and us included in that. Here's hoping this is the year they make me start believing again!
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Mayo are well funded and have remained at the top for so long due to their underage development structures, I got an insight into their underage player development 10 years ago, and was surprised at how much they were ahead of us and most other Counties. Despite this, their limitation is their population size, which is slightly smaller than Donegal, Kerry etc.
I agree we have not been a full strength for a few seasons, particular defensive injuries have crippled us year in year out. In the last 8 years we have lost potentially great defenders like Luke Keaney, Kieran Gillespie, Conor Morrison, and have had Neil McGee, Paddy McGrath and Stephen McMenamin out for long periods too, with Odhran McFadden Ferry gone with Defense forces for a season too. Great players don't grow on trees, and losing players like these guys is massive setback.
I disagree about us only getting motivated for Tyrone, I think we could have beaten Kerry, Mayo or Dublin in 2020 and 2021, we have lost twice to Southern teams in Championship since 2018 (Dublin 2018, Mayo 2019), ultimately it was Tyrone who eliminated us in 2018, Cavan 2020 and Tyrone in 2021. Tyrone were All Ireland finalists in 2018 and winners in 2021, we are right to focus on them.
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Replying To naomh_conaill_4: "There needs to be a change and it needs to be young ex players there likes of John Haran, John Gildea, Brendan Devenney or Damien Diver to name a few would regenerate the the board. Im only naming these as examples but this is the core group we should be looking to." Haran is a Co. Board chairman in the making.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1268 - 04/03/2022 09:51:09
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Replying To SouthOfTheGap: "Was interested to read the Chairman's comments. I would say that most posters on this forum attend matches, and are entitled to their opinions. Most opinions here are well formed, on whichever side of the fence they lie. I personally thought his comments were arrogant; he referenced his own great opinion in his programme notes. Well I certainly don't buy a programme to read his opinion. Does he think he's Alex Ferguson?
My own personal opinion is that the in recent years appointments have been fairly closed shop. Also, the Vice Chairperson of the County Board should not be from the same club as the Chairman. To me, it stifles debate and even accountability. I think it's his last year anyway, but I think a change will be welcome." I generally try not to be overly critical of Donegal players or management, I understand its an amateur sport and I appreciate the hours and effort these players put into it, and I have huge respect for any player that wears that Donegal jersey, as I know the effort they put in behind the scenes.
At times I do get frustrated and I do voice my opinion here, as there aren't many forums to do so. But I do try to keep it constructive criticism or suggestions, and will always stand over them and would be willing to enter a Donegal GAA County board forum using my name and repeat my comments here. I never troll, I just get frustrated when we seem to make the same mistakes year after year (Losing to Mayo and Cavan in similar fashion in 2019 & 2020).
I think Donegal GAA is moving in the right direction, It clear that great work in happening at underage.
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Replying To rorysboys: "More than one or two I could count about at least 7 or 8 who constantly on managements back. They disappear when we win as you should have noticed since Saturday night. It's the same on Facebook it even started at half time on Saturday night. . Mc graths right some of about there knowledge of football. I've no complaint about the majority of posters who are fair in there opinion. Which is good even one of Bonner's biggest lambasters came on and put up a fair post after the game." I know from posting after the game at the weekend that there have been a lot of positive posts since. I agree if someone is having a dig without anything positive to say when things are good, then it's not right.
Anyway, hopefully things continue in the right trajectory going forward now!
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1478 - 04/03/2022 11:43:24
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Replying To The keeper: "Our chairman should remain quiet and get his facts correct. We were not aiming criticism at the young or old players. I firmly believe and always have believed we have a great bunch of players.
We were questioning the management and there tactics, and whether he is the right man to bring us to the next level.
But our chairman knows this and was just deflecting attention away from his buddy, our manager.
And not once have i seen any criticism towards any player on social media. There was plenty about our tactics and where we are going.
Its a pity our chairman was not as vocal when the position of manager was available. We may have got more candidates for the job." The only people in the Donegal set up that I see criticised on the forum are Bonner and Ryan McHugh and lately the Chairman seems to be joining those two.I don't know anything about the football politics in the county but I wonder is it significant that those three are in the firing line.
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