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Who would want to come to Donegal after the mess that's going on in the background? That needs to be sorted first. With good men in behind the scenes at county board level , the right candidate will then be selected. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 25/06/2023 19:33:08 2489250 Link
Replying To Ulsterchamps72: "Report from the Democrat online this evening that Aidan O'Rourke has stepped away. The County board need to go and get Kevin Walsh tomorrow morning, look at the job he has done with Cork. The only other option is Mikey Harte if he'd leave Louth as he has also improved them no end." Hands off Micky Harte, Tyrone might be looking him back. It's the players that are getting Tyrone through this campaign not the managers. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2288 - 25/06/2023 19:45:42 2489258 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Unfortunately for Donegal Lockjaw, I could see this coming from Tyrone. Was only a matter of time before things would start clicking into gear, and they left some scores behind as well. All year final passes, missed hand passes and wrong calls was letting them down. I'd still have Donegal above Armagh and Monaghan in rankings." Yeah after such an annus horribilis, I was guilty of a bit of blind optimism following our win over Monaghan. It very quickly became apparent yesterday that Tyrone meant business and that we'd have our work cut out. There is time for us to sweep the decks now. Whether that will happen or not though is questionable. Serious change behind the scenes is needed. I'm blue in the face saying we have talented players within the county. But too often we're guilty of not giving them the platform they need to totally flourish. Ulster is going to be as competitive as ever in 2024. Derry, Tyrone, Armagh, Down improving, Monaghan still proving people wrong (well done their minors!) The next few months in Donegal will be very interesting. If we get things right behind the scenes and a good senior management team in place, a few of those who opted out/missed this year may return....who knows.. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9734 - 25/06/2023 21:28:09 2489306 Link
Lacey and murphy the men to look after donegal little or no experience but will get respect of players prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 25/06/2023 22:20:48 2489324 Link
All the focus is on who will take over as senior manager. However, the changes that need to be made at county board level are far more important. Our clubs need to step up now and ensure we get change implemented . greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 623 - 25/06/2023 22:45:37 2489331 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "Darragh canavan. Mattie Donnelly. Mc curry. And young canavan destroyed us forget about the runners.. they won every ball that went in. To be back competing at the highest level we need players like the Mc gees and Lacey's who can mark. I was sitting beside where Darragh canavan got the ball to score that brilliant point in the second half . He won his own ball and took his man on, no need for any runners. Marty Donnelly kicked 3 points and there wasn't a hand laid on him. You were on here last week saying how great a defence we had all due to correct management. What planet are you on. I never criticise any individual I'm just saying what I'm saying this last few years we need to unearth defenders , one of the problems is we have too many small players but we don't have the big physical players who can defend and attack if needed.. in fairness to players and management we were down a lot of players but the county board must take the blame for that especially the way they operated finding a new manager. Every body wanted change but maybe some players didn't. I'm very disappointed this morning we as donegal fans deserve better than what happened this year. A few more things heads have to roll if we want lacey back, our underage teams are way off at the moment when you see a county like Monaghan in a minor final a county with half the population we have, what is wrong . Donegal football is in a bad place at the moment my hope is that a few individuals on the board will step down for the good of Donegal football if not it'll be a long time till we reach croke park again." A few more things heads have to roll if we want lacey back, our underage teams are way off at the moment when you see a county like Monaghan in a minor final a county with half the population we have, what is wrong . Donegal football is in a bad place at the moment my hope is that a few individuals on the board will step down for the good of Donegal football if not it'll be a long time till we reach croke park again. We have less than a third of Donegal population ! Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 406 - 25/06/2023 23:32:49 2489340 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "Having a go at management this last few year,?ha coming from a poster who slated bonner since he took over. You came out of the woodwork last week after one win so we'll not be hearing from you for another while I would say. lol. What happened that great defence you mentioned last week." There wasn't a defence in country that could sustain the pressure from tyrone and quality of ball coming in as well as the powerful running game they brought from deep. Could you not see us getting turned over 6/7 times in attack and conceding scores from it. Our kick outs were under pressure all day. Our midfield couldnt get a hold in the game as well as our half forwards . Very difficult for any defence as anyone that understands fball would tell you roryboy. Mccole did brilliant on mccurry I thought, young mccolgan for 1st year limited canavan to potshots while he marked him. Curran has had great year and will grow with experience from marking the like of a canavan. And young Doherty showed great glimpses again. I'm not going to have you slate our defence which contained 3 fellas in their 1st year when I thought they did really well. On another note I want to thank aidan and paddy Bradley for great work this year. It was clear the players really enjoyed playing under them. Some of the players have really progressed under them in my opinion. Just unfortunate they didn't feel they were able to commit for another few years. Fair play to Aidan, he made his mind up quick as he knew it was for best interests of dgl fball. marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 26/06/2023 08:22:23 2489365 Link
Replying To Ulsterchamps72: "Report from the Democrat online this evening that Aidan O'Rourke has stepped away. The County board need to go and get Kevin Walsh tomorrow morning, look at the job he has done with Cork. The only other option is Mikey Harte if he'd leave Louth as he has also improved them no end." Both Louth and Cork have got themselves sorted off the pitch. People keep going on about a new manager will solve everything, we need a new committee in place, like what Louth and Cork have done, and then the football will come together in the field. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 748 - 26/06/2023 08:26:53 2489367 Link
Replying To ryan: "Both Louth and Cork have got themselves sorted off the pitch. People keep going on about a new manager will solve everything, we need a new committee in place, like what Louth and Cork have done, and then the football will come together in the field." A new manager may assist with improving our football. It has been junk to watch and we haven't been competitive. As for sorting the executive, go down to your club meetings, get involved and put a motion to your agm and this then goes to the County convention. This is how change happens. However we can get a new manager in a much quicker process. Ulsterchamps72 (Donegal) - Posts: 103 - 26/06/2023 10:50:30 2489432 Link
Replying To ryan: "Both Louth and Cork have got themselves sorted off the pitch. People keep going on about a new manager will solve everything, we need a new committee in place, like what Louth and Cork have done, and then the football will come together in the field." You are correct. No point appointing a new manager now if the mess behind the scenes is still there. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 623 - 26/06/2023 11:14:35 2489444 Link
Replying To marty234: "There wasn't a defence in country that could sustain the pressure from tyrone and quality of ball coming in as well as the powerful running game they brought from deep. Could you not see us getting turned over 6/7 times in attack and conceding scores from it. Our kick outs were under pressure all day. Our midfield couldnt get a hold in the game as well as our half forwards . Very difficult for any defence as anyone that understands fball would tell you roryboy. Mccole did brilliant on mccurry I thought, young mccolgan for 1st year limited canavan to potshots while he marked him. Curran has had great year and will grow with experience from marking the like of a canavan. And young Doherty showed great glimpses again. I'm not going to have you slate our defence which contained 3 fellas in their 1st year when I thought they did really well. On another note I want to thank aidan and paddy Bradley for great work this year. It was clear the players really enjoyed playing under them. Some of the players have really progressed under them in my opinion. Just unfortunate they didn't feel they were able to commit for another few years. Fair play to Aidan, he made his mind up quick as he knew it was for best interests of dgl fball." If you think defence is not the problem that's entirely up to you. But most knowledgeable gaa people know it is. Yea we were poor at midfield and our half forward line were well watched. One thing with Tyrone they always get there matchups right.. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2607 - 26/06/2023 13:21:56 2489544 Link
Anyone see a posse of county players about Creeslough yesterday? Apparently it happened….looking for an outlaw called Jim…. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 26/06/2023 14:19:20 2489583 Link
Replying To rorysboys: "If you think defence is not the problem that's entirely up to you. But most knowledgeable gaa people know it is. Yea we were poor at midfield and our half forward line were well watched. One thing with Tyrone they always get there matchups right.." The defence is not the problem area. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 26/06/2023 15:50:44 2489661 Link
When you look at the Tyrone team and bench full of All Ireland winners and with the added talent that are the Canavans I don't think many people were expecting us to turn them over.The bookies and Lockjaws competition would confirm this.To have had a chance Tyrone would have had to continue their indifferent form and we would have had to reach the heights of the Monaghan game.Unfortunately neither of these scenarios materialised.Tyrone were very good but our performance was nowhere near that of the week before.It seems to be hard to put big performances back to back.Three of the teams that were poor last week viz Mayo,Tyrone and Monaghan came through at the weekend.In our case we might have had to put too much in to training in the last number of weeks to try and catch up with other teams.We looked a tired team on Sat not withstanding that tyrone have a lot more good players than we have.I think I would be correct in saying that we did not win a single Tyrone kickout and failed to win a lot of our own.7or 8 of our players were guilty of poor turnovers.With those sort of stats you are in big trouble. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1144 - 26/06/2023 16:03:02 2489681 Link
Replying To SignTheContract: "Anyone see a posse of county players about Creeslough yesterday? Apparently it happened….looking for an outlaw called Jim…." The same posse that met Paddy Carr in Monaghan? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1181 - 26/06/2023 17:30:51 2489734 Link
Who do we want in as manager/coach? Sherlock? TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 26/06/2023 20:17:36 2489793 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Hands off Micky Harte, Tyrone might be looking him back. It's the players that are getting Tyrone through this campaign not the managers." Mickey Harte back to Tyrone are you serious? - you could also argue that, but for the great players of noughties, he wouldn't have won anything either so let's not go there - in fact it was when Tony Donnelly, chief tactician, left was when things went to pot for Harte. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 26/06/2023 21:51:52 2489813 Link
Mickey Harte? I think that poster was joking? And if they wasn't then they should have been! Only one man for it……Jim. Lacey and Murphy to be the coach and selector. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 27/06/2023 09:12:26 2489849 Link
Agreed. Has to be a 2012 centred ticket going forward. Anything less will be more of the same nonsense we had this year. The fear of course is that the same people who makes these calls will make the same mistakes. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 27/06/2023 09:58:47 2489881 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "Agreed. Has to be a 2012 centred ticket going forward. Anything less will be more of the same nonsense we had this year. The fear of course is that the same people who makes these calls will make the same mistakes." While I agree that it would be great to see a management team along the lines of Jim-MM-Lacey, it's more important that we address the issues identified in the audit. Otherwise what happens in 2 or 3 years when the above management team departs? Back to square one. I always want to see Donegal doing well every year but I think we really need to be thinking more strategically. All things considered, for a county our size and love of the game, our underage record is pretty abysmal truth be told. We simply have to get the Academy working properly again no ifs or buts. We don't have the same schools system as the likes of Tyrone and Derry. So we need to bring something to compete with that, and a fully properly functioning Academy is it. Everything costs money. We need a fundraising committee working under the oversight of a commercial manager. The committee would be tasked with coming up with novel ideas to generate income. We have to make sure that the Donegal GAA brand is enticing to be associated with. First thing I'd do is bin the Donegal GAA website and start it from scratch but that's a side point. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9734 - 27/06/2023 10:28:22 2489899 Link