Replying To LongfordSham: "Bottom 2 i believe are to be relegated from the playoff, which would be bloody ridiculous and a needless extra portion of games. League phase 1, League phase 2, Relegation round robin league, followed by a league phase Intermediate championship."
Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.
The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary.
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.
The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary."
100% agree with you on the league finishing with the top team as winning promotion and bottom team relegated. On the two Killoes playing each other, doesn't the weaker of the Div 2 Killoe team still pull a few players from the stronger of the Div 2 Killoe team? I know last year they had players playing Div 2 and Div 3.
Replying To Frank74: "100% agree with you on the league finishing with the top team as winning promotion and bottom team relegated. On the two Killoes playing each other, doesn't the weaker of the Div 2 Killoe team still pull a few players from the stronger of the Div 2 Killoe team? I know last year they had players playing Div 2 and Div 3."
No they can't do that. Killoe had to name players for each of their teams. You cannot play for two different teams in the same competition
Replying To liosbreac6265: "No they can't do that. Killoe had to name players for each of their teams. You cannot play for two different teams in the same competition"
Why bother seeding the two Killoe teams then, so they could not meet? What was the point in that?
On ACFL structure, the Premiership format of top team winning and bottom team(s) relegated is the purist form of league. But the NFL format is fine and would be a good format to adopt for ACFL.
If you applied NFL structure to our 2025 ACFL, it would have ended like this:
Division 1 Final: Clonguish v Colmcille Relegated: Granard & Rathcline
Division 2 Final: Cashel v Grattan Og Promoted: Cashel & Grattan Og Relegated: Carrickedmond & Killoe
Division 4 Final: Grattan Og v Fr. Manning Gaels Promoted: Grattan Og & Fr. Manning Gaels Relegated: Cashel & Ballymahon
Division 5 Final: Colmcille v Mullinalaghta Promoted: Colmcille & Mullinalaghta
Use Leader Cup for Division 1 winner who are Senior League champions in the same way the NFL Division 1 winner is the National League champion. Do away with all other cups including top 4 cups. No relegation playoffs either - you finish in bottom 2 you go down. If a club ends up with two teams in the same division, ensure they play each other in round 1 (to avoid any one of them needing the points to make the final or avoid relegation) and then push on with rest of the league as normal.
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú: "Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.
The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary."
The "world won't end" but you are giving one club the power to decide league placings themselves. Understandable to keep them apart especially after what happened a few years ago in the championship