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Replying To LongfordSham:  "Bottom 2 i believe are to be relegated from the playoff, which would be bloody ridiculous and a needless extra portion of games. League phase 1, League phase 2, Relegation round robin league, followed by a league phase Intermediate championship."
Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.

The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 17/06/2026 12:14:51    2680293

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.

The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary."
100% agree with you on the league finishing with the top team as winning promotion and bottom team relegated.
On the two Killoes playing each other, doesn't the weaker of the Div 2 Killoe team still pull a few players from the stronger of the Div 2 Killoe team? I know last year they had players playing Div 2 and Div 3.

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 17/06/2026 13:52:18    2680320

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Replying To Frank74:  "100% agree with you on the league finishing with the top team as winning promotion and bottom team relegated.
On the two Killoes playing each other, doesn't the weaker of the Div 2 Killoe team still pull a few players from the stronger of the Div 2 Killoe team? I know last year they had players playing Div 2 and Div 3."
No they can't do that. Killoe had to name players for each of their teams. You cannot play for two different teams in the same competition

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 286 - 18/06/2026 09:55:25    2680398

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "No they can't do that. Killoe had to name players for each of their teams. You cannot play for two different teams in the same competition"
Why bother seeding the two Killoe teams then, so they could not meet?
What was the point in that?

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 18/06/2026 11:46:27    2680416

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On ACFL structure, the Premiership format of top team winning and bottom team(s) relegated is the purist form of league. But the NFL format is fine and would be a good format to adopt for ACFL.

If you applied NFL structure to our 2025 ACFL, it would have ended like this:

Division 1
Final: Clonguish v Colmcille
Relegated: Granard & Rathcline

Division 2
Final: Cashel v Grattan Og
Promoted: Cashel & Grattan Og
Relegated: Carrickedmond & Killoe

Division 3
Final: Clonguish v Killoe
Promoted: Clonguish & Killoe
Relegated: Granard & Slashers

Division 4
Final: Grattan Og v Fr. Manning Gaels
Promoted: Grattan Og & Fr. Manning Gaels
Relegated: Cashel & Ballymahon

Division 5
Final: Colmcille v Mullinalaghta
Promoted: Colmcille & Mullinalaghta

Use Leader Cup for Division 1 winner who are Senior League champions in the same way the NFL Division 1 winner is the National League champion. Do away with all other cups including top 4 cups. No relegation playoffs either - you finish in bottom 2 you go down. If a club ends up with two teams in the same division, ensure they play each other in round 1 (to avoid any one of them needing the points to make the final or avoid relegation) and then push on with rest of the league as normal.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 18/06/2026 12:39:44    2680432

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Division 2 has same number of teams as last year. Last year each team played 11 rounds of games, and if you were in relegation you played 1 more, so 12 games total that season. That compares to 8 rounds of games this year across two phases, and 2 more games in a 3-team relegation playoff, so 11 games total this year if you are in relegation.

The number of games isn't the issue. The complexity is the issue IMO. Why not just play one division and let the two Killoe's play each other - the world won't end. Then have table position at the bottom decide who goes down. I don't see the point of relegation playoffs unless teams end up on same points. Then again I don't see the point of the Top 2 or Top 4 cups either. A league should finish with top team as champions and bottom team(s) relegated, nice and simple. More cups is unnecessary."
The "world won't end" but you are giving one club the power to decide league placings themselves. Understandable to keep them apart especially after what happened a few years ago in the championship

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 286 - 18/06/2026 14:44:53    2680458

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For div 2 Dromard ardagh Mostrim are already through to the semi finals I believe once connollys win their last game and dromard beat Grattans connollys will be the 4th team of the semi final for div 2 I believe Grattans need to beat dromard once they do that they will go through

Longfordlad1985 (Longford) - Posts: 78 - 21/06/2026 19:40:40    2680971

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Just looking at the division 2 table posted by Longford Gaelic Stats, bottom team Ballymahon having not one a game all year. What is happening to them? With 2 been relegated to division 3 they look in massive danger.

datsit (Longford) - Posts: 33 - 22/06/2026 08:35:33    2681101

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Replying To datsit:  "Just looking at the division 2 table posted by Longford Gaelic Stats, bottom team Ballymahon having not one a game all year. What is happening to them? With 2 been relegated to division 3 they look in massive danger."
Should they be relegated to Division 3, has a club of that size ever played in as low a division in the last 30 years? There's a very good chance, should things not turn around for them, they'll be facing relegation in the Intermediate championship too.

LongfordSham (Longford) - Posts: 153 - 22/06/2026 13:37:40    2681227

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We played Division 4 and Junior Championship back in 1991 and 92.
Back then it was 4 divisions with 6 teams each.
Majority of senior clubs played in Divisions 1 and 2, majority of Intermediate teams were in Division 3 and majority of Junior clubs were in Division 4.

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 22/06/2026 15:47:20    2681281

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Heard their could be no promotion or relegation now from divison 2 because off how the county board structured it! One club just missing out on top is not happy!!

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 272 - 23/06/2026 10:41:50    2681401

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Replying To slasher9:  "Heard their could be no promotion or relegation now from divison 2 because off how the county board structured it! One club just missing out on top is not happy!!"
I would not be surprised if this is true.
How they can declare a winner of the league and promotion along with it, when not all the clubs would have played all the same teams!!
It just made no sense whatsoever.
An were all these split groups just brought in because there was 2 Killoe teams?!!!

Frank74 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 23/06/2026 11:52:03    2681433

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Replying To slasher9:  "Heard their could be no promotion or relegation now from divison 2 because off how the county board structured it! One club just missing out on top is not happy!!"
Not true. Top team will be promoted and bottom four go into relegation playoff with worst two going down. All agreed as part of the two-phase structure for Division 2 earlier in the year.

The unknown is what happens if the two Killoe teams are in the bottom four because if they couldn't play each other in the earlier rounds of both phases, they can't play each other in a relegation playoff either, to avoid a double standard. If that happens, CB might change relegation to two semi-finals with a Killoe team in each one, and the loser of each semi would then go down. We will have to wait and see on that one.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 682 - 23/06/2026 13:11:28    2681465

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That is nonsense, once again similar to division 1 the league was agreed and adopted by all clubs at county board meeting, and as a result the relegation/promotion is based off the offical competition regulations.

A round robin is clearly not in thje regulations of division 2 this year.

But once again lads this should be considered at the start of year when clubs are agreeing and voting to league structures, not blame been passed to everyone else when it didnt go the way a club wants.

datsit (Longford) - Posts: 33 - 23/06/2026 14:21:25    2681491

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Not true. Top team will be promoted and bottom four go into relegation playoff with worst two going down. All agreed as part of the two-phase structure for Division 2 earlier in the year.

The unknown is what happens if the two Killoe teams are in the bottom four because if they couldn't play each other in the earlier rounds of both phases, they can't play each other in a relegation playoff either, to avoid a double standard. If that happens, CB might change relegation to two semi-finals with a Killoe team in each one, and the loser of each semi would then go down. We will have to wait and see on that one."
Things were agreed before and we seen what happened!! U are contradicting yourself if it was agreed then they cant change the relegation structure?! All i know for fact is one club is not happy and cant blame them. Its not a league if teams dont play the same teams!

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 272 - 23/06/2026 14:27:32    2681496

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