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I'm advocating patience which is rarely used in GAA management. Davy Burke agreed a 3 year term and 2025 will be final year of that term. Falling to Div 2 was my biggest disappointment of the year but is not the end of the world with Armagh,Dublin playing their league football in Div 2 and them winning the All Ireland, still important that we bonce straight back to Div 1 next spring and going into the London game with a spring in our step. Championship wise Quarter final appearances needs to be more common for us and we'll probably have to reach the AI final ourselves to beat that poor Connacht record against Ulster teams.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3914 - 28/07/2024 19:26:52
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Replying To The_analyser: "I'm advocating patience which is rarely used in GAA management. Davy Burke agreed a 3 year term and 2025 will be final year of that term. Falling to Div 2 was my biggest disappointment of the year but is not the end of the world with Armagh,Dublin playing their league football in Div 2 and them winning the All Ireland, still important that we bonce straight back to Div 1 next spring and going into the London game with a spring in our step. Championship wise Quarter final appearances needs to be more common for us and we'll probably have to reach the AI final ourselves to beat that poor Connacht record against Ulster teams." Roscommon were relegated to Division 2. We lost twice at home to Mayo in the championship and didn't get a sniff of a Connacht title. We won 3 competitive matches out of 13 but are hanging our hat on one win against Tyrone to reach a quarter final where we were well beaten. I can't say who should be Managing Roscommon and I know good Managers are hard to find. I can't see however what Burke has done in 2 years to say he's the man. An athletic but quite one dimensional Armagh team are All Ireland champions tonight. Roscommon have plenty of good footballers and should be doing better than they are. If Davy's back next year and that looks likely, he should at a minimum put good coaches in place to support him. We still don't know why Mark McHugh walked but we do know that he told Daddy that Roscommon have plenty of good players . Roscommon are not that far off the standard we were looking at a few hours ago so I think we need to be hoping for better than consolation prizes and one serious win in a whole season.
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Replying To The_analyser: "I'm advocating patience which is rarely used in GAA management. Davy Burke agreed a 3 year term and 2025 will be final year of that term. Falling to Div 2 was my biggest disappointment of the year but is not the end of the world with Armagh,Dublin playing their league football in Div 2 and them winning the All Ireland, still important that we bonce straight back to Div 1 next spring and going into the London game with a spring in our step. Championship wise Quarter final appearances needs to be more common for us and we'll probably have to reach the AI final ourselves to beat that poor Connacht record against Ulster teams." McGeeney is really highly thought of by the players he manages and they would run through mountains for him. Which is the reason he has been in that role for 10 years. If the Roscommon squad hold their manager in similar regard I think back the management team.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 28/07/2024 20:34:06
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Replying To endgame: "Roscommon were relegated to Division 2. We lost twice at home to Mayo in the championship and didn't get a sniff of a Connacht title. We won 3 competitive matches out of 13 but are hanging our hat on one win against Tyrone to reach a quarter final where we were well beaten. I can't say who should be Managing Roscommon and I know good Managers are hard to find. I can't see however what Burke has done in 2 years to say he's the man. An athletic but quite one dimensional Armagh team are All Ireland champions tonight. Roscommon have plenty of good footballers and should be doing better than they are. If Davy's back next year and that looks likely, he should at a minimum put good coaches in place to support him. We still don't know why Mark McHugh walked but we do know that he told Daddy that Roscommon have plenty of good players . Roscommon are not that far off the standard we were looking at a few hours ago so I think we need to be hoping for better than consolation prizes and one serious win in a whole season." Talent wise we probably aren't far off but in terms of fitness and conditioning we are miles off. A manager needs to trust his coaching team . Fair play Armagh and hard luck Galway.
dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1159 - 28/07/2024 20:55:26
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Replying To endgame: "Roscommon were relegated to Division 2. We lost twice at home to Mayo in the championship and didn't get a sniff of a Connacht title. We won 3 competitive matches out of 13 but are hanging our hat on one win against Tyrone to reach a quarter final where we were well beaten. I can't say who should be Managing Roscommon and I know good Managers are hard to find. I can't see however what Burke has done in 2 years to say he's the man. An athletic but quite one dimensional Armagh team are All Ireland champions tonight. Roscommon have plenty of good footballers and should be doing better than they are. If Davy's back next year and that looks likely, he should at a minimum put good coaches in place to support him. We still don't know why Mark McHugh walked but we do know that he told Daddy that Roscommon have plenty of good players . Roscommon are not that far off the standard we were looking at a few hours ago so I think we need to be hoping for better than consolation prizes and one serious win in a whole season." If you aren't regularly reaching the last 8 first you probably can't expect to reaching All Ireland final never mind winning All Ireland. Armagh reached back to back Quarter finals before this year and only lost on penalty shoot outs so had already reached a consistent level to compete. Was plenty of ifs buts and maybes in our Quarter final match against Armagh which includes playing half the match with 14 men.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3914 - 28/07/2024 22:28:29
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Replying To MachaireConnacht: "McGeeney is really highly thought of by the players he manages and they would run through mountains for him. Which is the reason he has been in that role for 10 years. If the Roscommon squad hold their manager in similar regard I think back the management team." You need a county board with patience and belief that the manager appointed will eventually deliver. As letsgetgoing already said Armagh did not win a match in the Ulster Championship in the first 4 years under him.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3914 - 28/07/2024 22:34:35
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Replying To dave1988: "Talent wise we probably aren't far off but in terms of fitness and conditioning we are miles off. A manager needs to trust his coaching team . Fair play Armagh and hard luck Galway." Yea, definitely need improvement on the fitness and conditioning side of things along with getting some panel depth.
Just watching the Sunday Game highlights show and one thing that stands out is the influence of McGeeney and the management team on the players. They seem to hold them in such massive esteem. Oisin Conaty talked about he chose Armagh over potential soccer career after meeting McGeeney and the way he inspired him. Can our management team instil similar inspiration in players and maybe convince lads to come back to the panel?
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 28/07/2024 23:20:45
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Replying To MachaireConnacht: "McGeeney is really highly thought of by the players he manages and they would run through mountains for him. Which is the reason he has been in that role for 10 years. If the Roscommon squad hold their manager in similar regard I think back the management team." Haven't heard of any players not backing Davy.
No whispers of dissatisfaction during our bad run of results in Leagye, Connacht or Group games.
Can we rise from here?
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1975 - 29/07/2024 00:46:58
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Haven't heard of any players not backing Davy.
No whispers of dissatisfaction during our bad run of results in Leagye, Connacht or Group games.
Can we rise from here?" Seems to be very well liked and respected by the panel going from the players I know well and are involved. I'd like to see him backed for 3 or 4 years and see where we are at - look at Kieran McGeeney. I think if we back him and give him some time we will see the benefits.
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The problem for any manager who manages us is the consistency of players coming and going. I am pretty sure mc hugh questioned this. We have seen with Donegal this year winning Ulster and Armagh although it took a long time, they developed a panel which allowed them to build on s and c. There was a missed opportunity to reach all Ireland, until we get the buy in from players coming through for a minimum 5 years we going no where
hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 107 - 29/07/2024 13:14:46
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Replying To Rossfan93: "Seems to be very well liked and respected by the panel going from the players I know well and are involved. I'd like to see him backed for 3 or 4 years and see where we are at - look at Kieran McGeeney. I think if we back him and give him some time we will see the benefits." I hope that is the case and is necessary for progress. McGeeney and McGuinness seem to be brilliant at inspiring and bringing players with them and getting them to give 100 percent. Essential if you want to get the most out of the players. John O Mahony seems to have been held in the same regard.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 29/07/2024 13:28:18
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An exciting weekend of Club GAA Action - Here are my predictions for the Senior championship:
Castlerea v Roscommon Gaels: Ros Gaels by 5/6 points. Should have too much for the newcomers. Could be a shootout between Gillooly and McDermott.
Oran v Tulsk : Oran by 8/9. If Oran are ticking away scores, Tulsk will struggle to keep in touch.
St. Faithleachs vs Western Gaels : St. Faithleachs by 1 or 2 points, could be a draw if Western Gaels can get the Creggs scoring. Faithleachs will need a strong defensive performance and Murtagh/Rooney firing up front.
St. Brigit's vs Michael Glaveys: St. Brigit's by 6+. Look formidable as usual and getting important players back. Home advantage might be the influencing factor for Glavey's staying in the game - Andy Glennon will be key.
Pearses v Clan na Gael: Pearses to win by 3. Very good finish to the league, well organised and should see off Clan. Ciarain Lennon and Patrick Gavin will need to be influential but will be targeted by Pearses.
St. Dominics vs Boyle : Boyle by 2/ 3 points. Tend to start slow in Championship so would not rule out a draw here. Frees will be important to both sides. Daire Cregg and McKeon are a big loss for Boyle but the Smiths should see them over the line.
Rossfan93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 60 - 30/07/2024 14:57:12
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Looking forward to a good weekend of club action I should take in at least three games and watch the 4th on the stream later (Brigids v Glaveys)
First round can produce some surprise results but for now I expect wins for Roscommon Gaels,Oran,Faithleachs,Brigids,Boyle and Clann v Pearses I'll sit on the fence and go for a draw
At intermediate level wins for Shannon Gaels,Elphin,Eire Og,Strokestown,St Brigids B and draw in the Croans v Creggs game.
Junior A I'm thinking wins for St Ronan's,Kilglass Gaels,Strokestown B,Ballinameen,Clann B and Aidans
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3914 - 30/07/2024 16:24:39
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My Predictions
Senior,
Roscommon Gaels to beat Castlerea| Faithleach's to beat Western Gaels| Boyle to beat Dominic's| Oran Tulsk Draw| Brigid's to Beat Glavey's| Pearses to Beat Clann.
Intermediate,
Kilbride to beat Shannon Gaels| Creggs to beat Croans| Strokestown to beat St. Michael's| Elphin to beat Pearses B| Fuerty Éire Óg Draw| Kilmore to beat Brigid's B.
Junior,
Barry's to beat Ronan's| Ballinameen to beat Roscommon Gael's B| Killglass to beat Boyle B|
St. Aidan's to beat Western Gaels B| Clann B to beat St. Joseph's| Strokestown B to beat Tulsk B.
Gaa2001 (Roscommon) - Posts: 3 - 30/07/2024 18:55:38
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My Predictions
Senior,
Roscommon Gaels to beat Castlerea| Faithleach's to beat Western Gaels| Boyle to beat Dominic's| Oran Tulsk Draw| Brigid's to beat Glavey's| Pearses to beat Clann.
Intermediate,
Kilbride to beat Shannon Gaels| Creggs to beat Croans| Strokestown to beat St. Michael's| Elphin to beat Pearses B| Fuerty Éire Óg Draw| Kilmore to beat Brigid's B.
Junior,
Barry's to beat Ronan's| Ballinameen to beat Roscommon Gaels B| Killglass to beat Boyle B|
St. Aidans to beat Western Gael's B| Clann B to beat Joseph's| Tulsk B to beat Strokestown B.
Gaa2001 (Roscommon) - Posts: 3 - 30/07/2024 19:52:51
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Looking forward to this weekends games and being 4 games (Clann V Pearse's, Caslterea Vs Gaels and both St Brigid's games)
Predictions
Senior
Roscommon Gaels to beat Castlerea| Faithleach's to beat Western Gaels| Boyle Dominic's Draw | Oran Tulsk Draw| Brigid's to beat Glavey's| Pearses to beat Clann.
Intermediate,
Kilbride to beat Shannon Gaels| Creggs to beat Croans| Strokestown to beat Michael's| Elphin to beat Pearses B| Éire Óg to beat Fuerty | Brigid's B to beat Kilmore
Junior,
Barry's to beat Ronan's| Ballinameen to beat Roscommon Gael's B| Killglass to beat Boyle B|
St. Aidan's to beat Western Gaels B| Clann B to beat St. Joseph's| Tulsk B to beat Strokestown B
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Roscommon Gaels
Oran
Faithleachs
Brigids
Boyle
Clann
Intermediate
Shannon Gaels
Elphin
Croans
Eire Og
Strokestown
Brigids B
Junior
Ronans
Aidans
Ballinameen
Clann B
Kilglass
Strokestown B
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Replying To The_analyser: " Replying To Ros13: "With the league finals over the focus now shifts to the business end of the season - Championship!
Do we see anyone get near Brigids this year? They look ominous going by their league form. 3 of the next 4 in the odds are in the same group - Pearses, Boyle and Clann. I have a sneaky feeling about Clann this year and think they may be the ones to put it up to their neighbours the most.
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Odds
St Brigids - 8/11
Pearses - 5/1
Boyle - 11/2
Clann na nGael - 10/1
Roscommon Gaels - 10/1
Oran - 12/1
St Faithleachs - 20/1
St Dominics - 33/1
Western Gaels - 40/1
Michael Glaveys - 40/1
Castlerea - 50/1
Tulsk - 80/1
Group A
Castlerea vs Roscommon Gaels
Oran vs Tulsk
Group B
St Faithleachs vs Western Gaels
Michael Glaveys vs St Brigids
Group C
Boyle vs St Dominics
Clann na nGael vs Pearses
INTERMEDIATE
Can Strokestown bounce straight back up to Senior or will it be 3rd time lucky for Eire Og?
Group A
Kilbride vs Shannon Gaels
Pearses B vs Elphin
Group B
Creggs vs St Croans
Fuerty vs Eire Og
Group C
St Michaels vs Strokestown
Brigids B vs Kilmore
JUNIOR
Aidans, Ronans and Kilglass will all fancy themselves as will Clann B
Group A
St Barry's vs St Ronans
Western Gaels B vs St Aidans
Group B
Ballinameen vs Roscommon Gaels B
Clann B vs St Josephs
Group C
Kilglass vs Boyle B
Tulsk B vs Strokestown B" Won't go into any detail on here but too much internal nonsense with Clann to expect them to mount a challenge. Zero value on Brigids with those odds. Good value on Pearses who lets not forget won a few county titles and a Connacht title recently and Boyle lost the last two finals by 1 point and should be there or thereabouts again. Eire OG and Strokestown look like two main contenders for the intermediate title. In Junior Aidans need to bounce straight back or could find themselves stuck at the level for a while much like Barrys have done."
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What a game and what a finish in Johnstown
How pearses did not win that game will haunt them
Dominated the ball but just could not put clann away.
Clanns subs coming off bench scored 1-3 between them with Ciaran Lennon getting 1-1
Wides Pearse's kicked were a killer for them. Double figures in the first half with wides
Looking forward to tomorrow's games
BrigidsToom (Roscommon) - Posts: 24 - 02/08/2024 23:17:29
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Replying To BrigidsToom: "What a game and what a finish in Johnstown
How pearses did not win that game will haunt them
Dominated the ball but just could not put clann away.
Clanns subs coming off bench scored 1-3 between them with Ciaran Lennon getting 1-1
Wides Pearse's kicked were a killer for them. Double figures in the first half with wides
Looking forward to tomorrow's games" What was Pearses forward line (old fashioned term I know) last night?
10 or more wides in 30 minutes is damnable!
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