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Had a day off from my usual activities yesterday and decided to take a trip back to the old county. Thought it a good idea to take in what I believed would be the better of the county semi finals. I expected two clubs going all out to reach the country final but boy was I disappointed. I've seen more attacking play at a game of lawn bowls on an English Saturday morning. The amount of times the ball was passed back from good attacking positions to the teams defence was disheartening to say the least. I'm delighted for Cian McKeown that his was the vital score as he was the only attack minded player on the field. Thank God we didn't have to endure extra time. I only stayed on because someone told me it might go to penalties and we might see some excitement. The highlight of my visit was the new electronic scoreboard. It might have taken twenty years but it's great that we have cought up with the rest of the country. As for the football I won't be back soon.

Rossieforever (Roscommon) - Posts: 94 - 09/10/2023 13:06:54    2507551

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Final will be just as handy for them

There a class act, amongst clubs of average ability and numerous problems, pearses no forwards, Boyle poor at the back, Ros Gaels lacking physically and a few players lacking real pace.
Brigid's don't appear to have any issues especially any that'll be shown up in Ros championship."
Will only be as handy in the final if Boyle was to set up as poor defensively as Roscommon Gaels did on Saturday. Goals all came too easy meanwhile Pearses a good goal scoring team struggled to create any goal chances yesterday.

For all the talk about Boyle forwards they have basically returned to the final because they have greatly improved in defence since round 1 of the championship.

Pearses no forwards? Carey,Colleran, Tumulty suggests otherwise. Purcell, Dineen, McManus, Oates etc offer the physically though are probably starting too many teenagers at the moment.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3964 - 09/10/2023 15:17:24    2507586

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Replying To Rossieforever:  "Had a day off from my usual activities yesterday and decided to take a trip back to the old county. Thought it a good idea to take in what I believed would be the better of the county semi finals. I expected two clubs going all out to reach the country final but boy was I disappointed. I've seen more attacking play at a game of lawn bowls on an English Saturday morning. The amount of times the ball was passed back from good attacking positions to the teams defence was disheartening to say the least. I'm delighted for Cian McKeown that his was the vital score as he was the only attack minded player on the field. Thank God we didn't have to endure extra time. I only stayed on because someone told me it might go to penalties and we might see some excitement. The highlight of my visit was the new electronic scoreboard. It might have taken twenty years but it's great that we have cought up with the rest of the country. As for the football I won't be back soon."
Don't think I'll ever warm to the idea of a penalty shootout to decide a championship match and just hope my club or county doesn't lose in that manner, one point fine margin losses as Roscommon suffered the last few years is bad enough.

As lovely new electronic scoreboard is a lot myself included are sad to see the old school one gone which offered a certain character to the ground, a pity it wasn't kept and the new one place in the graveyard end.

Have lost count to the amount of semi finals that have played out in that manner over the years and then the team that wins such war of attrition normally getting written off for the final.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3964 - 09/10/2023 16:00:04    2507600

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Just watched Pat Spillane on Late Late Show. Not a man I agree with very often but his comments at the end sums up gaelic football. When are coaches going to give us back our game and leave basketball where it belongs.

Rossieforever (Roscommon) - Posts: 94 - 13/10/2023 23:09:23    2508284

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Replying To Rossieforever:  "Just watched Pat Spillane on Late Late Show. Not a man I agree with very often but his comments at the end sums up gaelic football. When are coaches going to give us back our game and leave basketball where it belongs."
When "we" stop employing/paying them?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2127 - 14/10/2023 15:37:33    2508338

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When u play 12 or 13 aside players are to fit and intelligent for 15 to 20 players games been anything but a cynical slow approach game it's become.
Best of luck getting managers- coaches etc for senior club managers intercounty it's a full time job and for most managers there's limited success for the effort and time put in.
U would be mad to manage likes of Meath mayo Roscommon for free and the supporters they have expectations and the effort put in and truth be told none of them currently capable of winning a all Ireland.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1784 - 15/10/2023 15:16:58    2508459

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "When u play 12 or 13 aside players are to fit and intelligent for 15 to 20 players games been anything but a cynical slow approach game it's become.
Best of luck getting managers- coaches etc for senior club managers intercounty it's a full time job and for most managers there's limited success for the effort and time put in.
U would be mad to manage likes of Meath mayo Roscommon for free and the supporters they have expectations and the effort put in and truth be told none of them currently capable of winning a all Ireland."
I doubt many if any clued in Meath and Roscommon supporters have the expectations of winning the All Ireland,

Quarter final would be considered a good championship for both making those jobs less pressured than teams that actually expected to win or at least challenge for the All Ireland. Mayo a bit different having reached so many All Ireland finals and people will talk them up as contenders for a while yet but the current Mayo team are lack the quality and leadership they had in those teams that reached final and right now should be a bit more realistic.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3546 - 15/10/2023 21:11:33    2508540

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So the senior show piece on Sunday in Hyde Park. When picking a winner in these finals I nearly always looked how the two teams are performing defensively first and foremost as good defences it what wins a county title 99% of the time.

On the face of it Boyle have probably been conceding too much but not helped by a very poor showing in round 1 against Roscommon Gaels however since then they have conceded 3-33 in 4 matches which is average of 11 per game so if they keep that average going here we will have a competitive final.

Brigids have conceded a mere 0-38 in 5 games that stat alone screams county winners to be, Cormac Sheehy near 40 in goal had little or no saves to make all championship due to how solid Brigids have defended as a team. Secondly they have a very good spread of scorers and in modern day football it's important to have players from all over the field to pop up with scores and they have that advantage over Boyle whom rely on McKeon,Smith and Cregg for scores plus a better bench options to bring on especially with no Sean Purcell,Evan McGrath and Conor Flanagan available for Boyle this year.

Boyle won the championship meeting between the sides last year by 3 points I'm thinking it will be overturned on Sunday with Brigids to win by 3. Regardless who does win they should give the Connacht championship a good rattle, I've watch Galway,Mayo club championship games and the quality if roughly around the same level here, it will be the Sligo champions up first who won't be easy to beat either.


Also on Sunday will be the Div 1 U18 final, it apparently will not be played in Hyde Park as it should before the senior final but at 5pm in Enfield instead, I don't see the sense of that? two well matched teams (Roscommon Gaels, Glavey's/Eire OG) well ahead of the chasing pack in that grade as they were last year when they played in the U17 final and Glavey's/Eire OG won that by the narrowest of margins.

Eire OG intermediate final preparations has been boosted by the news that Conor Cox red card has been down graded to a yellow.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3964 - 17/10/2023 21:13:05    2508945

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Have you ever seen a more disingenuous apology to that one that was issued to Ollie lennon and his management team by the Roscommon LGFA.

After weeks of saying they done nothing wrong to come out with an apology like that is nothing short of disgraceful and heads should roll for it.

If i was a perspective manager i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 786 - 18/10/2023 10:38:10    2508986

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Have you ever seen a more disingenuous apology to that one that was issued to Ollie lennon and his management team by the Roscommon LGFA.

After weeks of saying they done nothing wrong to come out with an apology like that is nothing short of disgraceful and heads should roll for it.

If i was a perspective manager i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole."
It's a disgrace and doesn't even address the main issue, the fact they bare faced lied about contacting members of the panel. Beggars belief.

TobeaRossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 158 - 18/10/2023 10:44:14    2508990

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Handled badly but the Women deserve a better manager than someone who never played football.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1201 - 18/10/2023 13:22:56    2509032

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Replying To TobeaRossie:  "It's a disgrace and doesn't even address the main issue, the fact they bare faced lied about contacting members of the panel. Beggars belief."
The latest news now cast further questions of the Board. The Clubs have voted to return Ollie and Management team for the coming season.

One question that needs to be answered is - Who is the co.board trying to protect here?
How can this person be trusted going forward?
This whole saga will not stop until there is a resignation or sacking.

Someone needs to be help responsible for what has been one of the most embarrassing situations to ever have developed at Co. board level.

rosco7 (Roscommon) - Posts: 48 - 18/10/2023 14:24:56    2509045

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It's just a mess that needs sorting before it drags on into 2024.

Oddball (Roscommon) - Posts: 944 - 18/10/2023 14:48:53    2509060

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Conor Cox gets a red card over turned for the second year in a row & is again cleared to play in the county final. Fair play to him & great that he gets to play in the final but this is either an insult to the referees or the disciplinary system in Roscommon..or both!

Rassie15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 3 - 19/10/2023 09:25:39    2509166

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Handled badly but the Women deserve a better manager than someone who never played football."
Some of the best coaches in world football didn't play football at a high level that's hardly an argument

Champotime18 (Leitrim) - Posts: 442 - 19/10/2023 09:37:52    2509170

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Replying To Rassie15:  "Conor Cox gets a red card over turned for the second year in a row & is again cleared to play in the county final. Fair play to him & great that he gets to play in the final but this is either an insult to the referees or the disciplinary system in Roscommon..or both!"
Were you at the match?
Were you at the Apoeal hearing?
Did you see the evidence produced at the appeal?
The Ref has to make a decision on the spot. Committees have the luxury of scrolling through video etc.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2127 - 19/10/2023 11:04:55    2509192

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Were you at the match?
Were you at the Apoeal hearing?
Did you see the evidence produced at the appeal?
The Ref has to make a decision on the spot. Committees have the luxury of scrolling through video etc."
No I wasn't at the game or the "Apoel" hearing nor did I see the video evidence. Maybe it is a coincidence but its strange that the same player got cleared of two straight red cards received in semi finals two years in a row to be available in the final. Yes referee's have to make decisions on the spot & it is a tough job, that is not in question. So did two different referees get the decisions wrong 2 years in a row?

Rassie15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 3 - 19/10/2023 11:24:49    2509201

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Replying To Champotime18:  "Some of the best coaches in world football didn't play football at a high level that's hardly an argument"
Yeah but played the game at some level.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1201 - 19/10/2023 13:48:22    2509239

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Were you at the match?
Were you at the Apoeal hearing?
Did you see the evidence produced at the appeal?
The Ref has to make a decision on the spot. Committees have the luxury of scrolling through video etc."
I was at the game Red should never have been overturned walked out with a couple of Eire Og Man and they were certain they wouldnt have him for the final.

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 786 - 19/10/2023 14:18:50    2509246

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Were you at the match?
Were you at the Apoeal hearing?
Did you see the evidence produced at the appeal?
The Ref has to make a decision on the spot. Committees have the luxury of scrolling through video etc."
Was a tussle between Cox and the Elphin player. Two yellow was expected outcome but the ref on the advice of the lineman whom claimed a boot/fist was thrown showed Cox a red. The video evidence would have shown that not to be the case and the red now downgraded to a yellow.

It was the first red card he's received playing for Eire Og. In last years semi final he got a black on full time and would have missed the first period of extra time had Croans kicked that free instead of going for goal and getting nothing.

First time I've seen anyone from Roscommon call themselves "Rassie" that word is what people Mayo say as they struggle to say rossie.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3964 - 19/10/2023 16:41:38    2509287

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