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So we have our senior semi final line up Boyle v Pearses and Roscommon Gaels v St Brigids. Both will be Hyde Park on the 7th,8th of October.
Brigids got it all too easy against a side containing 8 starters that are Junior club footballers and some of the best North Roscommon players opted not to play. Brigids far too much skill,movement and speed for their opponents as Sugrue,Ben O'Carroll and Nugent caused serious damage. Motoring well and certainly deserve their favourite tag to win the Fahy cup.
Watched the stream of West Roscommon v Pearses. Decent enough showing by West Ros and might have made it a more interesting match with their strongest available team. Pearses very much job done but will have to improve for their semi final, Some of their younger players the stand outs Keogh,Declan Kenny and Paul Carey looked sharp with 1-4.
Today Roscommon Gaels edged past their neighbours via a sudden death penalty shoot out. Oran will be kicking themselves for not winning that match, better team in the 2nd half and extra time but let down by conceding poor goals in important stages and kicked double the amount of wides. Thought Lawless was their stand out player and Thomas Featherston made a big impact when introduced. Cian Connolly,Mark Purcell,Peter Gillooly among the best for the Gaels. TBH I'll never warm to shootout to decide a knock out GAA championship game
Stayed in Kiltoom and watched Clann v Boyle on RosGaatv (great service to have when games are clashing) With that strong wind advantage I didn't think Clann's 4 point half time lead would be enough and so it proved. Within mins of the 2nd half Boyle was leading and the Enda Smith goal with 15 mins to go basically won the contest for them, Clann almost went the whole 2nd half without scoring, a debatable penalty deep into injury time. Paddy Gavin probably best for Clann in a poor team performance. Donie Smith MOTM for me others good for Boyle included Tadgh Mckenna,Cathal Feeley,Luke Glennon. McKeon,O'Donnell,Enda Smith with good moments also.
The U16 Div 1 final in Boyle yesterday enjoyable watch after a slow start to the game. Castlerea came back from 4 points behind in different stages in the game to win by 3. Looking forward to seeing how a big number of those Castlerea,Croans,Oran players fare at U17 county level next year in Connacht championship certainly plenty of good players coming through.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3839 - 24/09/2023 18:31:11
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Replying To Rossfan93: "It will be interesting to see how the divisional teams get on in the quarter finals - one would fear two big results for brigits and pearses which could spell the end of the divisional teams.
I think the divisional teams should have to play the 2 best 3rd placed teams going forward, with top 2 teams in each group going through to quarter finals. St. Faithleachs will feel hard done by, having only lost to Boyle by 2 points and Ros Gaels by a point for their championship to be over. Another year would have seen them in a quarter final spot. Similar to Dominics who I am sure would fancy their chances beating either divisional team.
Roscommon Gaels will find it tough against Oran who are a young side full of quality players and a tight knit group, Ros Gsels will have to drag the game to their level for a result here. Clann and Boyle has the potential to be a great game, Boyle look to be coming good at the right time while Clann have been putting up big scores all year.
Strokestown could be in bother if they lose to Glaveys - Western Gaels have been down the relegation road before ad will fancy beating either team in a one off game to keep their senior status. Hopefully Strokestown can avoid relegation (has this ever happened before to the reigning county champions?) - Intermediate in Roscommon next year will be a tough place to be with the current crop of teams and then adding in Strokestown, Glaveys or Western Gaels." Once again, when it matters, Gaels beat Oran
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Replying To jimmy11: "Once again, when it matters, Gaels beat Oran" Well done to all the winning teams and especially hard luck to Oran.
Are the U20 fixtures all sorted out or some still up in the air?
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Replying To jimmy11: "Once again, when it matters, Gaels beat Oran" The Gaels are trying to drag Oran up to there level, but Oran keep shutting the door in there own face.
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Really good game between Oran and Roscommon Gaels. The gaels edging on penalties and another what if for Oran. You would hope for them that they will get over the line.
Boyle getting stronger from their earlier hiccup.
Brigids v Boyle final for me.
ball1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 29 - 26/09/2023 11:39:22
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Replying To OhtobeARossie: "The Gaels are trying to drag Oran up to there level, but Oran keep shutting the door in there own face." I was at the game. It was a good contest and I feel uneasy at a championship game being decided on penalties but that's the way of the world now. Either side would feel aggrieved losing in that manner. Roscommon Gaels goals were crucial and could have won the game in normal time. There was no malice in the statement that the Gaels would have to bring the game to their level, I was going off their games against Faithleachs and Western Gaels where I felt they were poor in both games, but was impressed with their game plan and stand out individual performances against Oran.
Boyle and Roscommon Gaels will fancy their chances against Pearses and Brigits. Hard to call where Brigits and Pearses are at after playing the divisional teams, where everyone knew they would come out the other side unscathed. Obviously 2 strong sides but tougher quarter final games could benefit Ros Gaels and Boyle.
Interesting line up and hopefully two quality semi final games in store.
Rossfan93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 39 - 26/09/2023 11:49:36
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As expected the two senior quarter-finals involved the combined sides ended up one-sided & a farse tbh. Yes, the scoreboard reflects well on West Ros, but from what I heard, it felt more like a challenge game. The introduction of the combined teams this year has added a lot of debate. I am a fan of this idea, but the two teams just playing an one-off game versus each other & both go into the quarter-finals regardless of the result, it's the solution. It must have been very frustrating for St. Fatithleachs, St. Dominics & Tulsk players, having won a game but not getting a quarter-final opportunity and seeing North Ros having lost their only match & still being in the last eight. It's wrong, makes zero sense & although Brigids did hammer Doms in the group phase, any of those three sides would've given a much better game. The lack of buy-in from some clubs didn't help, but was always going to happen when these clubs got deep in their respective championship. The buy-in cultural will take time. In fairness to the county board, they did allow a two-week gap between these games & intermediate and junior semi-finals.
Like I said I'm in favour of the combined teams, but the West vs North game should've been a knockout game & winner goes into the quarter-final play-offs with the third-placed teams. Open draw & the two winners make up the last two quarter-final spots. Not totally bulletproof & drags out the Championship a bit longer, but a better solution.
Also, what happened to the original idea of four regional teams? How come none of the players in the south (and don't play hurling) given the opportunity? Elphin & Ballinameen are not from the west. There was clubs from the east of the county in with the north. Could we not had an East Ros team & make up a group stage? Since we only ended up with two regional teams, should Elphin not been with the north? On paper, the west was always going to be strong with Éire Óg, Castlerea & Croans all top Intermediate sides. Elphin should have gone in with the north for balance & geographical reasons.
I heard people say mix them in with the solo senior clubs, but I can't see that working with the schedule. The junior and intermediate championships would have to start much earlier & then players not involved with the regionals side face a massive gap if their side progresses to the knockouts. It's very different in Kerry where the junior and intermediate championships are only made up of eight teams & can run off those championships, while there is still a senior club championship going on. So we would have to massively change our championship structures, which is easier said than done & can't see the clubs agreeing to that also.
It's more of a discussion for the winter months & for the moment focus on the action on the pitch.
GerBo (Roscommon) - Posts: 79 - 26/09/2023 13:39:15
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As expected the two senior quarter-finals involved the combined sides ended up one-sided & a farse tbh. Yes, the scoreboard reflects well on West Ros, but from what I heard, it felt more like a challenge game. The introduction of the combined teams this year has added a lot of debate. I am a fan of this idea, but the two teams just playing an one-off game versus each other & both go into the quarter-finals regardless of the result, it's the solution. It must have been very frustrating for St. Fatithleachs, St. Dominics & Tulsk players, having won a game but not getting a quarter-final opportunity and seeing North Ros having lost their only match & still being in the last eight. It's wrong, makes zero sense & although Brigids did hammer Doms in the group phase, any of those three sides would've given a much better game. The lack of buy-in from some clubs didn't help, but was always going to happen when these clubs got deep in their respective championship. The buy-in cultural will take time. In fairness to the county board, they did allow a two-week gap between these games & intermediate and junior semi-finals.
Like I said I'm in favour of the combined teams, but the West vs North game should've been a knockout game & winner goes into the quarter-final play-offs with the third-placed teams. Open draw & the two winners make up the last two quarter-final spots. Not totally bulletproof & drags out the Championship a bit longer, but a better solution.
Also, what happened to the original idea of four regional teams? How come none of the players in the south (and don't play hurling) given the opportunity? Elphin & Ballinameen are not from the west. There was clubs from the east of the county in with the north. Could we not had an East Ros team & make up a group stage? Since we only ended up with two regional teams, should Elphin not been with the north? On paper, the west was always going to be strong with Éire Óg, Castlerea & Croans all top Intermediate sides. Elphin should have gone in with the north for balance & geographical reasons.
I heard people say mix them in with the solo senior clubs, but I can't see that working with the schedule. The junior and intermediate championships would have to start much earlier & then players not involved with the regionals side face a massive gap if their side progresses to the knockouts. It's very different in Kerry where the junior and intermediate championships are only made up of eight teams & can run off those championships, while there is still a senior club championship going on. So we would have to massively change our championship structures, which is easier said than done & can't see the clubs agreeing to that also.
It's more of a discussion for the winter months & for the moment focus on the action on the pitch.
GerBo (Roscommon) - Posts: 79 - 26/09/2023 14:53:55
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Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Well done to all the winning teams and especially hard luck to Oran.
Are the U20 fixtures all sorted out or some still up in the air?" Div 1 Brigids v Pearses and Div 2 Glaveys/Éire Óg v Dominics U20 finals are scheduled to take place this Saturday but like the divisional teams how strong of pick will they have remains to be seen as Eire Og having more than one eye on their Intermediate semi final and both Brigids, Pearses won't want to get any of their young players injured before the senior final.
County board will have to look at the scheduling of those competitions again
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3839 - 26/09/2023 21:21:27
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Replying To GerBo: "As expected the two senior quarter-finals involved the combined sides ended up one-sided & a farse tbh. Yes, the scoreboard reflects well on West Ros, but from what I heard, it felt more like a challenge game. The introduction of the combined teams this year has added a lot of debate. I am a fan of this idea, but the two teams just playing an one-off game versus each other & both go into the quarter-finals regardless of the result, it's the solution. It must have been very frustrating for St. Fatithleachs, St. Dominics & Tulsk players, having won a game but not getting a quarter-final opportunity and seeing North Ros having lost their only match & still being in the last eight. It's wrong, makes zero sense & although Brigids did hammer Doms in the group phase, any of those three sides would've given a much better game. The lack of buy-in from some clubs didn't help, but was always going to happen when these clubs got deep in their respective championship. The buy-in cultural will take time. In fairness to the county board, they did allow a two-week gap between these games & intermediate and junior semi-finals.
Like I said I'm in favour of the combined teams, but the West vs North game should've been a knockout game & winner goes into the quarter-final play-offs with the third-placed teams. Open draw & the two winners make up the last two quarter-final spots. Not totally bulletproof & drags out the Championship a bit longer, but a better solution.
Also, what happened to the original idea of four regional teams? How come none of the players in the south (and don't play hurling) given the opportunity? Elphin & Ballinameen are not from the west. There was clubs from the east of the county in with the north. Could we not had an East Ros team & make up a group stage? Since we only ended up with two regional teams, should Elphin not been with the north? On paper, the west was always going to be strong with Éire Óg, Castlerea & Croans all top Intermediate sides. Elphin should have gone in with the north for balance & geographical reasons.
I heard people say mix them in with the solo senior clubs, but I can't see that working with the schedule. The junior and intermediate championships would have to start much earlier & then players not involved with the regionals side face a massive gap if their side progresses to the knockouts. It's very different in Kerry where the junior and intermediate championships are only made up of eight teams & can run off those championships, while there is still a senior club championship going on. So we would have to massively change our championship structures, which is easier said than done & can't see the clubs agreeing to that also.
It's more of a discussion for the winter months & for the moment focus on the action on the pitch." Not sure where you getting your information from but there are 16 Intermediate teams in Kerry (4 groups of 4), 16 Premier Junior (4 groups of 4) and 16 Junior (4 groups of 4).
The junior competition used to be 32 but they split it into premier Junior and Junior to run it off better.
The Senior Club Championship runs in tandem with the intermediate and Junior club competition.
The Senior County is run in 4 groups of 4 (8 senior clubs & 8 divisional sides, 2 of each in each group).
TheDude23 (Roscommon) - Posts: 10 - 27/09/2023 10:52:44
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Looking forward to the matches next weekend, awful pity there isn't 2 double headers, 1 senior 1 inter on each day.. supporters being asked to travel all over the county again to watch the games... 2 very interesting senior games... I expect Brigids to beat Ros Gaels... Gaels were second best for large parts of the game against Oran and a couple of goals at the right time kept them in it.. Brigids I think will have 2 much firepower... second game is hard to call, pearses havnt been playing that well lately and boyle look like a team improving all the time... however pearses have proven before that when the big games come around againt the big team they are able to raise there level and grind out a win... im going to say pearses by the thinnest of margins, that may even include penos
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Replying To Rossie14: "Looking forward to the matches next weekend, awful pity there isn't 2 double headers, 1 senior 1 inter on each day.. supporters being asked to travel all over the county again to watch the games... 2 very interesting senior games... I expect Brigids to beat Ros Gaels... Gaels were second best for large parts of the game against Oran and a couple of goals at the right time kept them in it.. Brigids I think will have 2 much firepower... second game is hard to call, pearses havnt been playing that well lately and boyle look like a team improving all the time... however pearses have proven before that when the big games come around againt the big team they are able to raise there level and grind out a win... im going to say pearses by the thinnest of margins, that may even include penos" If i was to call myself i would say Brigid's by 5+ and Boyle by 3 or 4.
Boyle to win it out.
sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1174 - 28/09/2023 09:47:17
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Replying To Rossie14: "Looking forward to the matches next weekend, awful pity there isn't 2 double headers, 1 senior 1 inter on each day.. supporters being asked to travel all over the county again to watch the games... 2 very interesting senior games... I expect Brigids to beat Ros Gaels... Gaels were second best for large parts of the game against Oran and a couple of goals at the right time kept them in it.. Brigids I think will have 2 much firepower... second game is hard to call, pearses havnt been playing that well lately and boyle look like a team improving all the time... however pearses have proven before that when the big games come around againt the big team they are able to raise there level and grind out a win... im going to say pearses by the thinnest of margins, that may even include penos" Not enough dressing rooms for a double header, sure last year during at quarter final stage they had Pearses and Brigids sharing the hall, while Roscommon Gaels used the dressing rooms, all the while Gaels members just traipsed through the hall, players from one team showering while teams are trying to prepare and to top it off Roscommon Gaels serving food to members immediately after game while teams were trying to change and having the audacity to tell players to make sure they covered up walking to the showers.
The week before they had the two teams playing each other tog in the hall at the same time. It was an absolute disgrace, there is no way double headers should be allowed until the dressing rooms are sorted out or make Gaels use the hall themselves.
Teams are lucky the works are ongoing otherwise we'd have the same messing again this year.
Looking forward to 4 good matches in senior & intermediate, while in the junior I think Michael's have learnt a lot from last 2 years and should shut down Kilglass, will Ronan's have enough to beat Clann, I'm not sure.
TheDude23 (Roscommon) - Posts: 10 - 28/09/2023 10:07:22
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Replying To GerBo: "As expected the two senior quarter-finals involved the combined sides ended up one-sided & a farse tbh. Yes, the scoreboard reflects well on West Ros, but from what I heard, it felt more like a challenge game. The introduction of the combined teams this year has added a lot of debate. I am a fan of this idea, but the two teams just playing an one-off game versus each other & both go into the quarter-finals regardless of the result, it's the solution. It must have been very frustrating for St. Fatithleachs, St. Dominics & Tulsk players, having won a game but not getting a quarter-final opportunity and seeing North Ros having lost their only match & still being in the last eight. It's wrong, makes zero sense & although Brigids did hammer Doms in the group phase, any of those three sides would've given a much better game. The lack of buy-in from some clubs didn't help, but was always going to happen when these clubs got deep in their respective championship. The buy-in cultural will take time. In fairness to the county board, they did allow a two-week gap between these games & intermediate and junior semi-finals.
Like I said I'm in favour of the combined teams, but the West vs North game should've been a knockout game & winner goes into the quarter-final play-offs with the third-placed teams. Open draw & the two winners make up the last two quarter-final spots. Not totally bulletproof & drags out the Championship a bit longer, but a better solution.
Also, what happened to the original idea of four regional teams? How come none of the players in the south (and don't play hurling) given the opportunity? Elphin & Ballinameen are not from the west. There was clubs from the east of the county in with the north. Could we not had an East Ros team & make up a group stage? Since we only ended up with two regional teams, should Elphin not been with the north? On paper, the west was always going to be strong with Éire Óg, Castlerea & Croans all top Intermediate sides. Elphin should have gone in with the north for balance & geographical reasons.
I heard people say mix them in with the solo senior clubs, but I can't see that working with the schedule. The junior and intermediate championships would have to start much earlier & then players not involved with the regionals side face a massive gap if their side progresses to the knockouts. It's very different in Kerry where the junior and intermediate championships are only made up of eight teams & can run off those championships, while there is still a senior club championship going on. So we would have to massively change our championship structures, which is easier said than done & can't see the clubs agreeing to that also.
It's more of a discussion for the winter months & for the moment focus on the action on the pitch." Can 2nd team players play? I thought they can't hence there wasn't enough for a team from the South given Pearses, Brigids, Clann and Dominic are Senior? What other clubs are left? Aidans and Fuerty?
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Replying To Ros13: "Can 2nd team players play? I thought they can't hence there wasn't enough for a team from the South given Pearses, Brigids, Clann and Dominic are Senior? What other clubs are left? Aidans and Fuerty?" A Mid and South Combo of Aidans, Creggs, Fuerty, Kilbride, Kilteevan?
I think the concept came from Northern Clubs so the Southies knee jerk reaction was No!
That hurling they play down there a factor too no doubt.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1717 - 28/09/2023 17:15:26
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Replying To Ros13: "Can 2nd team players play? I thought they can't hence there wasn't enough for a team from the South given Pearses, Brigids, Clann and Dominic are Senior? What other clubs are left? Aidans and Fuerty?" 2nd team players can't play. When voted in last year it was to be four divisional teams and all four to play in one group with the top two progressing to the knock out stage. North,East,West and South was to be the teams. South team was to include Aidans,Fuerty but didn't declare a big interest as a lot of their players are already busy with hurling and football I think Kilbride was to join the south team.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3839 - 28/09/2023 20:22:58
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Huge congratulations to the 3 lads nominated for awards this morning. Enda was a certainty and great to see Brian nominated aswell after another solid year.
And what an achievement for Conor in his first year at this level. He should be very proud of himself, I know all us supporters will be. Great for him to be recognised. Well done to all and good luck to them in November!
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Replying To D.Hyde: "Huge congratulations to the 3 lads nominated for awards this morning. Enda was a certainty and great to see Brian nominated aswell after another solid year.
And what an achievement for Conor in his first year at this level. He should be very proud of himself, I know all us supporters will be. Great for him to be recognised. Well done to all and good luck to them in November!" Well done to the three lads who all deserve their nomination. Hopefully Enda Smith will be the first Roscommon All Star since F. Crehan in 2001. Enda had an outstanding year in both the league and championship. He was excellent all year and was man of the match in three championship games. It certainly will be well deserved if he finally brings another long-awaited All Star back to Roscommon.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 591 - 29/09/2023 11:51:52
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Replying To D.Hyde: "Huge congratulations to the 3 lads nominated for awards this morning. Enda was a certainty and great to see Brian nominated aswell after another solid year.
And what an achievement for Conor in his first year at this level. He should be very proud of himself, I know all us supporters will be. Great for him to be recognised. Well done to all and good luck to them in November!" Well done to all three will be surprise if we win any but Enda will be best placed to do so. Some of the forwards that was nominated didn't have a year as good as Ciarán Murtagh so a strong argument that he should have been nominated also.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3839 - 29/09/2023 14:50:53
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Strokestown the county champions of last year relegated, I don't recall that happening before but goes to show the competitive nature of our county championship nowadays.
Western Gaels great battlers and number of experienced heads that love going to war. Well done to them for staying up.
Elsewhere Brigids pulled off a surprise win in the Div 1 U20 final in Woodmount tonight. They led by 7 points ten minutes into the 2nd half and Pearses had a rally to bring it back to 1 point but Conor Hand late points made sure the title would be returning back to Kiltoom, Would have to wonder what damage that defeat has done for the confidence of the Pearses players with up to 7 whom will be playing for their seniors next weekend and another handful will be lining out for their B team against Castlerea.
Glaveys/Eire OG beat St. Dominic's in low scoring Div 2 final 0-6 to 0-4 in awful conditions. Why that match and the senior relegation final was moved to Mayo when pitches and conditions was the same made no sense.
Roscommon Gaels minors strolled into the U18 county final, they lost the U17 final last year with McStay are they going to win it this year with the same team without him this year?
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3839 - 30/09/2023 20:58:46
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