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Replying To LottoPlus:  "I think this is a great Idea. Do a club amalgamation like Kerry do in Football. In football the Cliffords club used to be junior and they would not have been seen (well Paudie anyway) without them playing with an amalgamation club in senior.
Hurling clubs have amalgamated before for their best. Mullagh Kiltormer in underage and probably not too far away for senior, Ahascragh Fohenagh, Tynagh Abbey Duniry. I think that we (Carnmore) should join with Annaghdown or Sylane. Sylane would me the better option as they have better hurlers. Annaghdown have 2 maybe that would make our team at the moment. I wonder would this be a good topic of conservation at our AGM, Carmore/Sylane join together. We could be called Carlane :-)"
Or Car lane! You'd have to have a good motor for that; no pedestrians allowed.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1861 - 18/11/2023 05:32:38    2513573

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I wouldn't have fancied Thomas' after the county final but that Ballygunner Na Piarsiagh game is woeful stuff. Thomas' will be very fresh for the semi final.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 625 - 19/11/2023 17:05:12    2513743

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Replying To galway19:  "I wouldn't have fancied Thomas' after the county final but that Ballygunner Na Piarsiagh game is woeful stuff. Thomas' will be very fresh for the semi final."
Bar the Ballyhale performance in January 2022 Thomas' haven't impressed in a game outside Galway the last 5-6 years.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1496 - 19/11/2023 20:45:54    2513772

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Replying To galway19:  "I wouldn't have fancied Thomas' after the county final but that Ballygunner Na Piarsiagh game is woeful stuff. Thomas' will be very fresh for the semi final."
Fair point but you have to remember it's PARISHES that are playing. It's hard to scrounge up a lot of stud players from a PARISH. You're lucky to get a few or even ONE from my Parishes like mine. lol.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2080 - 20/11/2023 01:16:35    2513801

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Replying To galway19:  "I wouldn't have fancied Thomas' after the county final but that Ballygunner Na Piarsiagh game is woeful stuff. Thomas' will be very fresh for the semi final."
NAP v Ballygunner was slow paced, bad wides, and generally a poor watch.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11166 - 20/11/2023 10:29:17    2513829

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Bar the Ballyhale performance in January 2022 Thomas' haven't impressed in a game outside Galway the last 5-6 years."
True but people sometimes forget that Thomas's have already won 1 AI club title albeit 10 years ago. Also they didn't always have a full panel to pick from in most of those years due to injuries etc. Being a small club that counts for a lot so they should be in better shape this year but will still be outsiders / underdogs if Ballygunner win Munster as expected.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3243 - 20/11/2023 10:51:44    2513834

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Replying To tommy k:  "True but people sometimes forget that Thomas's have already won 1 AI club title albeit 10 years ago. Also they didn't always have a full panel to pick from in most of those years due to injuries etc. Being a small club that counts for a lot so they should be in better shape this year but will still be outsiders / underdogs if Ballygunner win Munster as expected."
They will rightly be underdogs but this is the best shape they have come into a semi final in terms of injuries in a while. Shane and Fintan fully fit, David Burke good to go and no other injuries. Ironically it is actually their hurling that hasn't been crisp this year but they will only need it to click once.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 625 - 20/11/2023 12:04:07    2513853

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Replying To galway19:  "They will rightly be underdogs but this is the best shape they have come into a semi final in terms of injuries in a while. Shane and Fintan fully fit, David Burke good to go and no other injuries. Ironically it is actually their hurling that hasn't been crisp this year but they will only need it to click once."
Agreed. I have no problem with Ballygunner being favorites as they've earned it through great play and consistency. Clonlara should give them a stiff challenge but it's hard to see past Ballygunner.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2080 - 21/11/2023 11:16:11    2513992

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Replying To Trump2020:  "(With no new date confirmed yet for the London SHC final and the Connacht Club SHC semi-final fixed for November 18, Connacht Council have now decided to give Tooreen a bye into the final where they will face Ballindereen on November 26). GOOD LUCK BALLINDEREEN."
Big weekend for Ballindereen in the Connaught Club Final but should the Senior B winners be representing Galway instead?
Intermediate is now the 3rd Grade in Galway.
Ballindereen would probably be ranked 20th in Galway against basically the Mayo Senior Hurling team in Toreen

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2158 - 21/11/2023 14:07:09    2514026

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Replying To katser:  "Big weekend for Ballindereen in the Connaught Club Final but should the Senior B winners be representing Galway instead?
Intermediate is now the 3rd Grade in Galway.
Ballindereen would probably be ranked 20th in Galway against basically the Mayo Senior Hurling team in Toreen"
They're ranked 25th actually, since we had 24 teams above them. In answer to your question, in my opinion yes we should.
But it would need to be renamed as intermediate. I actually don't see the logic in calling it senior B, apart from the fact that the clubs can still call themselves senior. But in reality it's the 2nd tier, which is the same as intermediate in almost any other club championship.
The clubs in senior B can't compete for the senior county title and can't represent Galway, no matter what they do, unless they get up to senior or go down go intermediate.
I understand it was a compromise from the county board which enabled them to reduce the senior championship to 16 teams as required by Croke Park, while at the same time allowing clubs 17 to 24 still call themselves senior.
It seems mad to me though, all for the sake of a label.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1990 - 21/11/2023 14:37:33    2514032

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "They're ranked 25th actually, since we had 24 teams above them. In answer to your question, in my opinion yes we should.
But it would need to be renamed as intermediate. I actually don't see the logic in calling it senior B, apart from the fact that the clubs can still call themselves senior. But in reality it's the 2nd tier, which is the same as intermediate in almost any other club championship.
The clubs in senior B can't compete for the senior county title and can't represent Galway, no matter what they do, unless they get up to senior or go down go intermediate.
I understand it was a compromise from the county board which enabled them to reduce the senior championship to 16 teams as required by Croke Park, while at the same time allowing clubs 17 to 24 still call themselves senior.
It seems mad to me though, all for the sake of a label."
It's ridiculous. The top 8 Intermediate teams should be reclassified with the Senior B teams as the Intermediate championship. The rest should drop to Junior and get over the label

Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 109 - 21/11/2023 15:18:52    2514040

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Jusr wondering if there are any hurling clubs looking to change underage hurling to even ages agsin. As in 14 -16 -18 I know lots of counties have reverted back to even grades

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 793 - 21/11/2023 17:12:44    2514067

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Replying To Kinvara:  "It's ridiculous. The top 8 Intermediate teams should be reclassified with the Senior B teams as the Intermediate championship. The rest should drop to Junior and get over the label"
Agree 100%. The current setup prevents Mullagh who are our 2nd tier winners, from having a crack at an Intermediate All-Ireland. We're sending our 25th team into that competition, while Kilkenny send their 13th.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1990 - 21/11/2023 17:15:43    2514068

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Replying To Kinvara:  "It's ridiculous. The top 8 Intermediate teams should be reclassified with the Senior B teams as the Intermediate championship. The rest should drop to Junior and get over the label"
Tipperary renamed their Senior B championship to Premier Intermediate and the grade below that is Intermediate. Something similar could be done in Galway . Bring up 8 from Intermediate to join the eight Senior B teams . The remaining 8 Intermediate teams could then be joined by the 5 pure Junior Clubs ( Spiddal, Ml Breathnachs , Bearna Furbo , Salthill Knocknacarra and Ballinasloe plus three other clubs second teams from this years Junior A possibly Loughrea, St Thomas and castlegar. That would reduce Junior A then to 10 teams from 18 bring up two from Junior B to make it 12 teams like all the other Junior grades.

Corner flag (Galway) - Posts: 36 - 21/11/2023 23:00:36    2514108

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Replying To Corner flag:  "Tipperary renamed their Senior B championship to Premier Intermediate and the grade below that is Intermediate. Something similar could be done in Galway . Bring up 8 from Intermediate to join the eight Senior B teams . The remaining 8 Intermediate teams could then be joined by the 5 pure Junior Clubs ( Spiddal, Ml Breathnachs , Bearna Furbo , Salthill Knocknacarra and Ballinasloe plus three other clubs second teams from this years Junior A possibly Loughrea, St Thomas and castlegar. That would reduce Junior A then to 10 teams from 18 bring up two from Junior B to make it 12 teams like all the other Junior grades."
To be fair, an 8 team competition is a bit small when there's a 16 team competition underneath.

They could do worse than promote the 4 Intermediate SF teams from this year and make it a 12 team competition, it's hard to see the likes of T/A/D and Meelick-Eyrecourt significantly weakening the Senior B competition in its current guise. M/E are long enough trying to reach the promised land as it is :)

Then have a 12 team intermediate competition.

Run two groups of 6 for both and take it from there, everyone gets a good share of games and isn't that what we all want?

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 818 - 23/11/2023 13:34:24    2514306

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "Turloughs old failings came back to bite. No out and out forward threat. Jamie Holland and Conor Walsh completely anonymous from play. Brendan Phelan was dominated by Fintan Burke. Never even came close to registering a goal threat until Conor Walsh in the 61st minute. Their goal came from a 21 yard free. Wont beat Toms unless you rattle the onion bag.

Turlough saying the ref was bad and cost them ? Don't think so."
Hard to disagree, Fintan Burke ate any high ball into forwards and Sean Loftus sent into mark him didn't fair any better. Error of judgement on mmgt behalf. Jamie Holland a half back- Best position is centre back. Dissapointed Turlough didnt throw Daithi or even Fergal Moore into full forward. Sean O Hanlon had a fine game. Maybe next year

quizhead (Galway) - Posts: 7 - 23/11/2023 20:27:19    2514374

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Replying To quizhead:  "Hard to disagree, Fintan Burke ate any high ball into forwards and Sean Loftus sent into mark him didn't fair any better. Error of judgement on mmgt behalf. Jamie Holland a half back- Best position is centre back. Dissapointed Turlough didnt throw Daithi or even Fergal Moore into full forward. Sean O Hanlon had a fine game. Maybe next year"
If you put Daithi up forward you'd miss him in defense badly. Robbing Peter to pay Paul I'd say. Turlough are a lad or two short when compared to Thomas's. Nothing to be ashamed of. They'll break through eventually.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2080 - 27/11/2023 02:36:36    2514666

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Replying To quizhead:  "Hard to disagree, Fintan Burke ate any high ball into forwards and Sean Loftus sent into mark him didn't fair any better. Error of judgement on mmgt behalf. Jamie Holland a half back- Best position is centre back. Dissapointed Turlough didnt throw Daithi or even Fergal Moore into full forward. Sean O Hanlon had a fine game. Maybe next year"
You'll often have musical chairs at club level between backs and forwards. Different management teams will experiment with different things. Getting 'backs' to 'do a job' up front will be even more prevalent in a club side like Turloughmore where you're not spoiled for choice of prolific natural scoring forwards. You're pointing to a management 'error of judgement' re.Sean Loftus, and you're pointing out Holland's best position at no6, but you're still 'disappointed' you didn't see Daithi or Moore at no14. What if Daithi and Moore were useless at no14? Would you be filing that under management 'error of judgement' then as well?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3350 - 27/11/2023 11:23:49    2514700

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You'll often have musical chairs at club level between backs and forwards. Different management teams will experiment with different things. Getting 'backs' to 'do a job' up front will be even more prevalent in a club side like Turloughmore where you're not spoiled for choice of prolific natural scoring forwards. You're pointing to a management 'error of judgement' re.Sean Loftus, and you're pointing out Holland's best position at no6, but you're still 'disappointed' you didn't see Daithi or Moore at no14. What if Daithi and Moore were useless at no14? Would you be filing that under management 'error of judgement' then as well?"
It would still have been worth trying, given how badly they were struggling for scores in the 2nd half. Daithí caused havoc in the short time he went up front late in the game. He won two frees and obviously buried a goal from another one. Thomas's had to haul him down one occasion after he won a ball and went directly at them. He gave them a completely different challenge to what they'd faced up to then.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1990 - 27/11/2023 12:10:01    2514707

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Just saw "The Charter" for a Galway club that had previously won an All Ireland Club that looked crazy no booze and no holidays!!
Wonder who it is since its an an AI winning club has to be any of Castlegar, Kiltormer, Sarsfields, Athenry, Clairenbridge , Portumna or St Thomas

St Thomas are too smart for this stuff, Castlegar, Kiltormer, Portumna and Athenry too far back off the field. That leaves two cant see a country club like Sars doing this so my guess this "The Bridge"

BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 106 - 27/11/2023 16:30:27    2514761

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