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Replying To Mayo52:  "2 of the 3 players you had mentioned were already in with Galway last season, and didn't make much of an impression truth be told"
Did they get a chance to impress ? From what I recall Martin McManus got **** all game time Vs players like conor Whelan who played all league and we already know is established at senior intercounty level. Makes absolutely no sense

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 22/09/2023 13:04:02    2505200

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Replying To GalwaysFinest:  "Who are the 'big lads' that are out there? Genuine question.

To me, a lot of the best minors of recent years have been small classy players. Players who will find it tough at senior intercounty.

Greg Thomas is a big unit, but dont know would he be senior intercounty material.

Is there anyone else out there? Is Cian Salmon worth a look? Havent seen him play recently bar setting up three goals for Mark Kennedy against O/M.

Joe Mooney Loughrea? Big unit too.

Other than that, apart from anyone who is already in with Galway, you'd have to say most clubs best forwards arent big men."
Martin McManus should be given more game time in the league in 2024. Joe Mooney definitely also. Cian salmon yes. Greg Thomas yes. What is there to lose? Far too cautious in the league the last few years

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 22/09/2023 13:05:54    2505202

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Mooney hurls for Mayo lads

TanCanRan (Galway) - Posts: 179 - 24/09/2023 10:05:36    2505405

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Great article in the Irish Times about the "Career Coach" in the club game. Seems like the going rate is around 15k for the season.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/09/23/has-the-gaa-finally-given-up-on-amateurism/

BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 106 - 24/09/2023 15:46:37    2505438

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "Great article in the Irish Times about the "Career Coach" in the club game. Seems like the going rate is around 15k for the season.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/09/23/has-the-gaa-finally-given-up-on-amateurism/"
Tiny money compared to what ye're paying Bill Belichick and Red Auerbach over there.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3350 - 25/09/2023 10:15:58    2505539

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Tiny money compared to what ye're paying Bill Belichick and Red Auerbach over there."
I dont think I mentioned any comparison between a club in Ireland and a Seven time Super Bowl behemoth worth over 3 Billion and that would be foolish. If we think that the GAA is an amateur or a volunteer organization we need to think again. The blueprint is the Dublin city clubs who have the $$$ and multiple means of generating revenue, state of the art facilities, professional coaches and can bring in a Shane Walsh or other inter county star to win a club All Ireland.

BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 106 - 25/09/2023 13:41:23    2505617

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Replying To TanCanRan:  "Mooney hurls for Mayo lads"
Correct - apologies.

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 25/09/2023 16:36:58    2505679

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "I dont think I mentioned any comparison between a club in Ireland and a Seven time Super Bowl behemoth worth over 3 Billion and that would be foolish. If we think that the GAA is an amateur or a volunteer organization we need to think again. The blueprint is the Dublin city clubs who have the $$$ and multiple means of generating revenue, state of the art facilities, professional coaches and can bring in a Shane Walsh or other inter county star to win a club All Ireland."
If you look at the big dublin clubs most have bars function rooms etc gret way to generate revenue

minor77 (Galway) - Posts: 214 - 25/09/2023 17:07:55    2505685

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "I dont think I mentioned any comparison between a club in Ireland and a Seven time Super Bowl behemoth worth over 3 Billion and that would be foolish. If we think that the GAA is an amateur or a volunteer organization we need to think again. The blueprint is the Dublin city clubs who have the $$$ and multiple means of generating revenue, state of the art facilities, professional coaches and can bring in a Shane Walsh or other inter county star to win a club All Ireland."
Blueprint for who?

Should we all be 'Dublin city clubs' now, Father?

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 818 - 25/09/2023 21:13:07    2505723

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "I dont think I mentioned any comparison between a club in Ireland and a Seven time Super Bowl behemoth worth over 3 Billion and that would be foolish. If we think that the GAA is an amateur or a volunteer organization we need to think again. The blueprint is the Dublin city clubs who have the $$$ and multiple means of generating revenue, state of the art facilities, professional coaches and can bring in a Shane Walsh or other inter county star to win a club All Ireland."
The blueprint you'd be better served looking at in my opinion is the English Premiership in Rugby, which has seen two clubs go to the wall in the last 18 months with more likely to follow in the future because they can't sustain professionalism organically and most clubs are almost entirely dependent on a wealthy benefactor. If and when this individual decides to cut his/her losses, the ship sinks without trace.

As I've said before, I've nothing against player professionalism if there's a practical way to make it work. In GAA terms, there just isn't.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 818 - 25/09/2023 21:19:07    2505724

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Replying To Jackson88:  "Martin McManus should be given more game time in the league in 2024. Joe Mooney definitely also. Cian salmon yes. Greg Thomas yes. What is there to lose? Far too cautious in the league the last few years"
I am fairly sure Mcmanus played in league v Wexford and Cork and was way off it. Was red hot in the county final but the step up this year appeared too much for him.

MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 158 - 26/09/2023 08:59:40    2505739

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Replying To minor77:  "If you look at the big dublin clubs most have bars function rooms etc gret way to generate revenue"
Club bars in Dublin generate little revenue except for a few exceptions. People prefer to socialise in other places. all you get in GAA clubs are die-hards who regard it as their own domain and don't want outsiders.

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 300 - 26/09/2023 10:44:25    2505759

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Now it's the Proper Championship this Weekend in Senior, Senior B and Intermediate.......with all the mickey mouse group games and Preliminary Quarter Finals out of the way!
Senior Quarter Finals
Turloughmore v Castlegar.........................................Turlough
St.Thomas' v Cappataggle..........................................Thomas'
Loughrea v Clarinbridge.............................................Loughrea
sarsfields v Oranmore-Maree...................................sarsfields

Senior B Semi Finals
Mullagh v Liam Mellows............................................Mullagh
Ahascragh-Fohenagh v Kilnadeema-Leitrim..........Ahascragh

Intermediate Quarter Finals
Meelick-Eyrecourt v Kinvara..................................Eyrecourt
Ballindeeren v Rahoon-Newcastle.......................Ballindeeren
Tynagh/Abbey-Duniry v Carnmore.......................TAD
Sylane v Clarinbridge...............................................Sylane

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2158 - 26/09/2023 11:07:35    2505765

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "I am fairly sure Mcmanus played in league v Wexford and Cork and was way off it. Was red hot in the county final but the step up this year appeared too much for him."
He didn't play v Wexford. Made his league debut v Cork, as far as I recall, and was one of our better players that day. Played again v Limerick and struggled a bit, like everyone else that day. Definitely has a lot to offer.

Triffic (Galway) - Posts: 121 - 26/09/2023 11:11:40    2505766

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Replying To Triffic:  "He didn't play v Wexford. Made his league debut v Cork, as far as I recall, and was one of our better players that day. Played again v Limerick and struggled a bit, like everyone else that day. Definitely has a lot to offer."
I could have sworn he came on in the wexford game which was a walsh cup final and doubled up as first round of league.

MapleSyrup (Galway) - Posts: 158 - 26/09/2023 11:40:04    2505784

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "The blueprint you'd be better served looking at in my opinion is the English Premiership in Rugby, which has seen two clubs go to the wall in the last 18 months with more likely to follow in the future because they can't sustain professionalism organically and most clubs are almost entirely dependent on a wealthy benefactor. If and when this individual decides to cut his/her losses, the ship sinks without trace.

As I've said before, I've nothing against player professionalism if there's a practical way to make it work. In GAA terms, there just isn't."
If you read the article it discussed the paid coaches at club level, not players and how much they are getting compensated. At this stage its more supplemental income for these coaches, but they are getting paid and certain clubs ARE paying. I don't think Mulqueen was coming up from Clare to Mellows for the crack a couple of years ago and there are many others on the coaching circuit. Now how and where these clubs are coming up with the money coz they definitely are is the question. 15k is a lot of bingo, lotto and pints at the bar, the Dublin "city" clubs seem to be better than most at raising revenue and I dont think they are relying on some Sheikh to do it.

BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 106 - 26/09/2023 12:06:55    2505799

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "I am fairly sure Mcmanus played in league v Wexford and Cork and was way off it. Was red hot in the county final but the step up this year appeared too much for him."
You can't judge a player on one bad performance

Jackson88 (Galway) - Posts: 72 - 26/09/2023 12:44:13    2505809

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Replying To BostonGuy:  "If you read the article it discussed the paid coaches at club level, not players and how much they are getting compensated. At this stage its more supplemental income for these coaches, but they are getting paid and certain clubs ARE paying. I don't think Mulqueen was coming up from Clare to Mellows for the crack a couple of years ago and there are many others on the coaching circuit. Now how and where these clubs are coming up with the money coz they definitely are is the question. 15k is a lot of bingo, lotto and pints at the bar, the Dublin "city" clubs seem to be better than most at raising revenue and I dont think they are relying on some Sheikh to do it."
you wouldn't get a lot for €15k.

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 300 - 26/09/2023 14:28:48    2505850

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Replying To MapleSyrup:  "I could have sworn he came on in the wexford game which was a walsh cup final and doubled up as first round of league."
He did but only as a temporary sub for a couple of minutes. Anyone saying he didn't step up to Senior Intercounty based on those minutes on the pitch is only a clown. You would need to see him play a few games before deciding he was or wasn't good enough yet.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11166 - 27/09/2023 07:44:13    2505925

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Senior Quarter Finals

Turloughmore v Castlegar...........Turloughmore
St.Thomas' v Cappataggle............Thomas's
Loughrea v Clarinbridge...............Loughrea
sarsfields v Oranmore-Maree…..Oranmore

Senior B Semi Finals

Mullagh v Liam Mellows............................................Mellows
Ahascragh-Fohenagh v Kilnadeema-Leitrim..........Ahascragh

Intermediate Quarter Finals

Meelick-Eyrecourt v Kinvara..................................Eyrecourt
Ballindeeren v Rahoon-Newcastle.......................Ballindeeren
Tynagh/Abbey-Duniry v Carnmore.......................TAD
Sylane v Clarinbridge...............................................Sylane

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2080 - 27/09/2023 11:17:25    2505969

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