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Just after finishing my own records for the campaign, and Rossiter ends up as top scorer for the championship with 2-30 (20 frees, 1 mark), edging out long-time leader Darren Codd (3-23 including 17 frees and one '45) with his 1-4 in the final. Team-mate Sean Ryan finishes as the top scorer from play with 3-9, which goes to show how important the pair are to Gusserane. Shelmaliers' chief marksman at the end of the season is Glen Malone, who placed third on the overall list with 1-22 (19 frees), and interestingly, their top scorer from play was Kyle Roche with 2-4, which emphasises the overall spread of options they have.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 18/11/2021 11:46:32    2389836

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Replying To beano:  "Just after finishing my own records for the campaign, and Rossiter ends up as top scorer for the championship with 2-30 (20 frees, 1 mark), edging out long-time leader Darren Codd (3-23 including 17 frees and one '45) with his 1-4 in the final. Team-mate Sean Ryan finishes as the top scorer from play with 3-9, which goes to show how important the pair are to Gusserane. Shelmaliers' chief marksman at the end of the season is Glen Malone, who placed third on the overall list with 1-22 (19 frees), and interestingly, their top scorer from play was Kyle Roche with 2-4, which emphasises the overall spread of options they have."
I know he's already a panel member but I'd be all for throwing Mini Ryan into the Wexford starting team next year, was reading in the Irish indo that pre seasons could be played next year so hopefully an opportunity for him there too.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 18/11/2021 12:19:57    2389843

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Replying To indaknownow:  "Talk about a split season - how about this for a compromise - and a slight tweak in the current system.

same idea as this year 4 groups of 3 at every grade (this works now for senior after the double relegations)
Three rounds of group games each team plays the other two in the group but on the week that the spare team is off they play a spare team from another group. Guarantees each team 3 group games and each team playing every week.
As this year top team into Quarter final and the 2nd and 3rd team into prelim quarters.
After the group games (hurling first i presume) switch to football. Play the 3 group games. then switch back to hurling play the Championship out then finish the football.
It put pressure on the 3rd and 4th place teams to switch codes in a week but also there is real reward for finishing top of the group. lots of people say that the group games dont matter. This might give them more meaning."
Was sceptical of this idea at first, but now actually quite like it after working it through on paper. As you say, a game for everybody each week, and a real reward for topping the group. And every team gets at least four games...even if one of them happens to be a relegation match that nobody wants!

Only thing I'd say is that if it's to be hurling group stages first, followed by football groups, and then hurling knockout, my club for one would probably go back to concentrating almost completely on hurling for as long as we're in the hurling championship at all (i.e. focus would still be on hurling even during the football group stages).

Other clubs where the emphasis is mainly on football might do the same thing the other way round.

But of course, the only way around that is either to continue with either hurling or football first in its entirety, and then begin the other one....or else a major change in mindset in the clubs themselves, including my own.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2248 - 18/11/2021 13:24:44    2389870

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Replying To beano:  "Just after finishing my own records for the campaign, and Rossiter ends up as top scorer for the championship with 2-30 (20 frees, 1 mark), edging out long-time leader Darren Codd (3-23 including 17 frees and one '45) with his 1-4 in the final. Team-mate Sean Ryan finishes as the top scorer from play with 3-9, which goes to show how important the pair are to Gusserane. Shelmaliers' chief marksman at the end of the season is Glen Malone, who placed third on the overall list with 1-22 (19 frees), and interestingly, their top scorer from play was Kyle Roche with 2-4, which emphasises the overall spread of options they have."
Malone is the POTY, despite have never appeared on your team of the week. Not saying you were wrong week by week.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 19/11/2021 12:52:15    2389976

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Replying To zinny:  "Malone is the POTY, despite have never appeared on your team of the week. Not saying you were wrong week by week."
POTY for me would be between Simon Donohoe, Graham Staples or Martin O'Connor.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 19/11/2021 14:16:02    2389994

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Replying To zinny:  "Malone is the POTY, despite have never appeared on your team of the week. Not saying you were wrong week by week."
I 100% had him in the team of the semi-finals actually.

Is he the confirmed POTY or your choice? Was very good (as per usual), but I would have gone for his older brother or Staples ahead of him.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1417 - 19/11/2021 14:33:02    2389999

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Replying To beano:  "I 100% had him in the team of the semi-finals actually.

Is he the confirmed POTY or your choice? Was very good (as per usual), but I would have gone for his older brother or Staples ahead of him."
Nah just my choice. I guess they could be thrown in especially since Brian was playing out of position.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 20/11/2021 10:36:58    2390067

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Two almighty mis-matches over the weekend:

Junior A Football relegation final: Glynn/Barntown 7-20, Monageer/Boolavogue 0-1
Leinster Junior Hurling: Tara Rocks 10-35, Arklow Rock Parnells 0-4

The football was bad enough, but at least Monageer/Boolavogue might have more or less made the decision that they weren't too pushed about it one way or the other. Difference between their second team playing in Junior A or Junior B is maybe not that great in the overall scheme of things. But even still, it hardly excuses a beating of those proportions.

But I can't get over the hurling result. A Leinster championship match, involving a team that had won a county title in Wicklow, and where they'd surely have liked to put up at least some bit of a show...and still they're beaten by 61 points by near neighbours.

Anyone hear anything about it? Maybe somebody here was even at it?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2248 - 21/11/2021 20:18:05    2390225

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Two almighty mis-matches over the weekend:

Junior A Football relegation final: Glynn/Barntown 7-20, Monageer/Boolavogue 0-1
Leinster Junior Hurling: Tara Rocks 10-35, Arklow Rock Parnells 0-4

The football was bad enough, but at least Monageer/Boolavogue might have more or less made the decision that they weren't too pushed about it one way or the other. Difference between their second team playing in Junior A or Junior B is maybe not that great in the overall scheme of things. But even still, it hardly excuses a beating of those proportions.

But I can't get over the hurling result. A Leinster championship match, involving a team that had won a county title in Wicklow, and where they'd surely have liked to put up at least some bit of a show...and still they're beaten by 61 points by near neighbours.

Anyone hear anything about it? Maybe somebody here was even at it?"
Both results very easy to explain.

I'm told Monageer used 5/6 on their first team
since their previous junior A game, with first team having gone to extra time in both their semi final and final, while I'm told Glynn had most of their 18 year olds available plus a few others back.

Second game Arklow Rocks are the 4th best intermediate team in Wicklow. They didn't win the championship but got there by default because the top 3 teams were all 2nd teams who are not allowed to enter Leinster.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 21/11/2021 22:01:59    2390248

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Both results very easy to explain.

I'm told Monageer used 5/6 on their first team
since their previous junior A game, with first team having gone to extra time in both their semi final and final, while I'm told Glynn had most of their 18 year olds available plus a few others back.

Second game Arklow Rocks are the 4th best intermediate team in Wicklow. They didn't win the championship but got there by default because the top 3 teams were all 2nd teams who are not allowed to enter Leinster."
Thanks. I wasn't too far off the mark with Monageer/Boolavogue, then. And obviously didn't realise Arklow Rocks hadn't actually won the Wicklow title. Can see how beaten semi-finalists could fairly rapidly lose interest in things for the year and not exactly burst themselves in preparing for another match that was probably several weeks down the line.

But even still, beatings of 7-20 to 0-1 and 10-35 to 0-4 are phenomenal.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2248 - 22/11/2021 09:01:00    2390255

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I hear the U20 is starting this weekend bar I guess for clubs who are playing in Leinster this weekend and have u20 players involved - which I would say all would have. and then the following weekend the Leinster football is on - god knows when the competition will finish.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 22/11/2021 14:16:56    2390326

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Replying To zinny:  "I hear the U20 is starting this weekend bar I guess for clubs who are playing in Leinster this weekend and have u20 players involved - which I would say all would have. and then the following weekend the Leinster football is on - god knows when the competition will finish."
Fixtures have been on the county board website the last few days, hopefully there isn't a raft of walkovers.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 22/11/2021 14:32:29    2390330

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Replying To wexico15:  "Fixtures have been on the county board website the last few days, hopefully there isn't a raft of walkovers."
Fixtures were issued last week all right, but only fixtures showing on the website right now are a couple of Leinster matches (Oylegate in intermediate, and Rapps in senior). Maybe the U20 ones were up there but they took them down again pending some sort of review?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2248 - 22/11/2021 15:04:55    2390341

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Fixtures were issued last week all right, but only fixtures showing on the website right now are a couple of Leinster matches (Oylegate in intermediate, and Rapps in senior). Maybe the U20 ones were up there but they took them down again pending some sort of review?"
There in the underage fixtures section.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 22/11/2021 15:55:12    2390353

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Replying To wexico15:  "Fixtures have been on the county board website the last few days, hopefully there isn't a raft of walkovers."
Pointless matches.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 642 - 22/11/2021 16:49:21    2390364

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Pointless matches."
Why? There are a lot of reasons why this is a disaster of a championship but you would deny the players - please explain

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 23/11/2021 14:35:56    2390457

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Replying To zinny:  "Why? There are a lot of reasons why this is a disaster of a championship but you would deny the players - please explain"
Their 15 posts have suggested its an individual with a childish mentality looking for attention. Either that or just a troll.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 23/11/2021 14:40:13    2390458

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Replying To zinny:  "Why? There are a lot of reasons why this is a disaster of a championship but you would deny the players - please explain"
Id be all for moving these games in to February or so in 2022.

I know of at least 2 clubs who are struggling to pull together numbers for a team because of a combination of it being played in late November, adult teams being done for a while and COVID in the Clubs.

Turn it from u20 to u21 and play it February or March next year, stop treating u20 football like the add on at the end of the year every year when teams are struggling to get numbers.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 23/11/2021 16:14:57    2390474

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Replying To tearintom:  "Id be all for moving these games in to February or so in 2022.

I know of at least 2 clubs who are struggling to pull together numbers for a team because of a combination of it being played in late November, adult teams being done for a while and COVID in the Clubs.

Turn it from u20 to u21 and play it February or March next year, stop treating u20 football like the add on at the end of the year every year when teams are struggling to get numbers."
I'm not saying its right but its actually common for these types of age grades to get bottom step of the ladder treatment unfortunately around the country, not just a case of the poor relation code getting the short straw in our county.

2 examples in Limerick u21 hurling is on at the moment while u19 and 21 hurling is currently on in Kilkenny.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 23/11/2021 16:31:49    2390478

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Replying To tearintom:  "Id be all for moving these games in to February or so in 2022.

I know of at least 2 clubs who are struggling to pull together numbers for a team because of a combination of it being played in late November, adult teams being done for a while and COVID in the Clubs.

Turn it from u20 to u21 and play it February or March next year, stop treating u20 football like the add on at the end of the year every year when teams are struggling to get numbers."
Good plan

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11851 - 23/11/2021 18:03:49    2390496

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