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Im writing this post in the best of sport and in the spirit of fairplay, and to start I have to congratulate Tyrone on their 4th All-Ireland win. Well Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 586 - 11/09/2021 23:35:07 2379828 Link 12 |
I think that they've lost so many finals at this stage too that the hurt just isn't there any more. 2017 was the nadir, I think their hearts were truly broken that day and since then they've come to resemble a thirty something singleton, happy to plod along and take whatever comes their way,not really too bothered one way or the other. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1664 - 12/09/2021 10:25:22 2379871 Link 1 |
It must be very difficult coaching Mayo. Those big personalities dominate that team, maybe not in a positive way when its needed most. There is a collective mental attitude problem. But clearly if a player cannot be substituted the problem is also management and a lot deeper.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 12/09/2021 12:12:07 2379918 Link 1 |
I never understand the mayo fans constantly praising the mayo team for being "gallant losers". "Ah sure it just wasn't our day" bla blah blah... until you lose this attitude you will win nothing. There comes a point where you just have to say ah here lads enough is enough. You should be outraged. Outraged at the team for not giving it their best shot AGAIN. Outraged at management for making poor decisions AGAIN. Outraged that Tyrone looked like the team that wanted it more. Just like the games with Dublin in 16 & 17, when the game was in the melting pot, Dublin refused to be beaten and just wanted it more. How the hell could any team want it more than mayo after all they've been through. I'm sorry lads but the time for taps on the back is over..... it's not good enough. The mayo team has consistently let you lot as fans down. It's time to be outraged. Less praise more outrage. The mayo team has become too comfortable with losing, and the fans congratulating them on losing doesn't help. 11 finals 0 wins in 30 years. There is not another sport in the world you will see a record even remotely close to that. ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 12/09/2021 12:39:32 2379926 Link 6 |
Absolutely, more i think of it, James Horan is too good a manager not to have taken him off imo, there must be some serious serious player power there, or something going on behind the scenes anyways.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1664 - 12/09/2021 13:04:49 2379934 Link 1 |
Great football county. They dont deserve the abuse they get. They overachieved this year with the team they had. Dublin went through a similar awful run losing semi finals and finals in the 80s & 90s until a bad ref call gave them the win in 95. With Mullen & CO'C back next year, Mayo will have an excellent team. bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/09/2021 13:12:14 2379937 Link 4 |
Good post. It is nearly as if they are just happy to get to the final. It was no good beating Dublin this year unless they finished the job.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1893 - 12/09/2021 13:18:01 2379941 Link 1 |
I experienced the same as a galway hurling fan in the 2015 final when kilkenny, who had loads of all Irelands, outfought and wore down the galway team who at the time had never won one. I appreciated their effort overall, amateur sportsmen etc, but at the same time,, come on lads ffs.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1664 - 12/09/2021 13:38:18 2379953 Link 1 |
tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 12/09/2021 13:49:33 2379960 Link 1 |
Sick of hearing ..... "next year" THIS was their year. They dumped us out and Kerry werent in the final either. The two teams who were hotly favoured at the start of the year, gone. The 6 in a row champs outplayed and out fought for large periods and a Kerry team who were to take the mantle. Alas they ended up playing a Tyrone team who themselves hadnt played in a final in years. Mayo had far more experience of all Ireland finals in their ranks than Tyrone. Literally everything in their favour And yet still, in typical Mayo fashion, they contrived to lose. I never really want Mayo to win it, but after they beat us I was absolutely comfortable with the fact they will win it, this was their time, even more so when kerry went out. But you know what, I dont feel sorry for Mayo. They are massive architects of their own downfall. I think they enjoy being bridesmaids. They enjoy the romance of being nearly men and the love in that the country have for them as a result. They all enjoy losing. They live of coming back from amazing failure and morale victories. Look at us, were never down for long arent we a great bunch that we always come back and get to the final.... but when it comes to it, they just dont have the cajones to get it over the line and it's time to admit that they never will. Their fans are brilliant, and they along with the players feel like they probably deserve an all Ireland. But they dont. You'll win one when you deserve to win one. Their mentality is weak. On the biggest of days, they fail again and again. They'll always bounce back and when it comes to finals of all irelands, they'll always lose waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 12/09/2021 13:54:32 2379962 Link 4 |
Some good points, Mayo as a footballing county are achieving success though, they're winning Provincial titles, playing Div 1 football and getting to All Ireland Finals. There are around 20 - 25 counties who'd love Mayo's success year on year and they don't deserve the criticism that goes their way. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 12/09/2021 14:14:28 2379966 Link 1 |
Tyrone looked like they wanted it more. Which is baffling when you think of what Mayo have gone through,they fought for every single ball. galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 12/09/2021 14:21:58 2379967 Link 0 |
I think they looked like they had accepted defeat by the 10th minute. I'm no body language expert but after a lightning start by Mayo Tyrone tacked over a few scores and showed that they weren't going to roll over (ulster teams never roll over), after which Mayo seemed to just accept their fate. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1664 - 12/09/2021 14:32:03 2379969 Link 1 |
Poor Mayo, in the words of Bob Seger..."Beautiful Losers when are you ever going to learn you just can't have it all". katser (Galway) - Posts: 2188 - 12/09/2021 14:36:10 2379971 Link 0 |
Obviously Mayo have GREAT footballers or they couldn't get to the All Ireland on such a consistent basis but for one reason or another they come up short. Would you rather be Mayo and constantly compete at the top or be like Longford or Roscommon for example and almost never get there and almost never compete? Mayo are on the right track and like everything worthwhile you have to just keep trying. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2100 - 12/09/2021 15:07:56 2379976 Link 2 |
Just not good enough...never had the top class forwards needed on the big day...always seem to lack composure when needed most..tommy conroy typifies this most bundle of energy but when presented with a good goal chance completely butchers it jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 12/09/2021 15:26:53 2379980 Link 1 |
That sounds fine but you could use the Longford /Roscommon angle to get around most issues with failure on the big occasion. Kerry failed to stop Dublin winning the 5 in a row in 2019, made all the worse because they probably left the drawn game behind them. Longfords lack of success that year was of no consolation to them, nor should it be. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1664 - 12/09/2021 15:33:28 2379982 Link 1 |
Why can't Meath win a Leinster title? Mayo are a great football county and have every right to be proud of their footballers. And Just like Tyrone yesterday I do believe they'll send one of their lads up the hogan steps to lift Sam. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 12/09/2021 15:53:31 2379983 Link 2 |
You got it in one.Thet will never win an All Ireland unless they find at least three quality forwards.
dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 12/09/2021 15:59:05 2379988 Link 1 |
I'd prefer to actually win an All Ireland to be honest.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1893 - 12/09/2021 16:07:26 2379990 Link 2 |