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I think Limerick are so strong right now that a rest of Ireland team would struggle against them. Ive picked a best of the rest team that would take them on, i would love to know others take on this.
1 Murphy
2 Barrett
3 D.Burke
4 E.O'Donnell
5 R. Maher
6 De Burca
7 P.Walsh
8 Mannion
9 Kelly
10 Gleeson
11 Reid
12 Chin
13 Whelan
14 Horgan
15 Hutchinson

hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 02/09/2021 15:34:16    2377284

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I think Limerick are so strong right now that a rest of Ireland team would struggle against them. Ive picked a best of the rest team that would take them on, i would love to know others take on this.
1 Murphy
2 Barrett
3 D.Burke
4 E.O'Donnell
5 R. Maher
6 De Burca
7 P.Walsh
8 Mannion
9 Kelly
10 Gleeson
11 Reid
12 Chin
13 Whelan
14 Horgan
15 Hutchinson"
It would be a great spectacle, maybe each year kick off the year with the current All Ireland Champions v rest of Ireland team.
In both codes and have a day out with a double header

Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 729 - 02/09/2021 15:50:38    2377294

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It is always difficult to pick best teams. You are reasonable accurate. It would be safer to pick the subs as well to go up against Limerick. It does not work anyway only on paper because great players may not function as a team. Neither of the centerfields picks are better than Barron. Tony Kelly will score more frees included and is excellent but Jamie's over all contribution to a game is greater.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 02/09/2021 15:59:50    2377295

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I think Limerick are so strong right now that a rest of Ireland team would struggle against them. Ive picked a best of the rest team that would take them on, i would love to know others take on this.
1 Murphy
2 Barrett
3 D.Burke
4 E.O'Donnell
5 R. Maher
6 De Burca
7 P.Walsh
8 Mannion
9 Kelly
10 Gleeson
11 Reid
12 Chin
13 Whelan
14 Horgan
15 Hutchinson"
Not a bad take I'd have several different names

1 Eoin Murphy - Not even a debate

2 Daithi Burke - Can do it all, shuts down opposition
3 Conor Prunty - Stood head and shoulders above many this year and probable all star. The full back problem Waterford have had since the days of Sean Cullinane are over.
4 Eoin O'Donnell - very good call there

5 Callum Lyons - would be getting a second all star in a row except for the brilliance of Diarmuid Byrnes
6 Padraig Walsh - Holds the middle, drives on when needed, helps protect his full back
7 Mark Coleman - Great player to sweep and win loose ball, can win it in the air or down low

8 Jamie Barron - No one else should be in the conversation before him. Consistently outstanding
9 Tony Kelly - Consistently brilliant for the last 4-5 years. Best player in the country not playing for Limerick

10 Austin Gleeson - has all the ability in the world to be better than Cian Lynch, at his best no one can stop him. But its getting that from him every single day
11 TJ Reid - The man is a wizard and couldn't be left off
12 Lee Chin - his athleticism and ability to win ball should earn him a place. Never gives less than his all.

13 Conor Whelan - has it all, getting more powerful but galway need to keep him closer to goal
14 Joe Canning - still one of the best in the country, from play and free's
15 Seamus Callanan - Still the best finisher in hurling. If you need a guy to get a goal he's the guy

I know that won't be to everyone's liking
Tadhg De Burka whilst great needs a seventh defender to do what he does. Against Limerick you don't have that luxury and Walsh gets the nod
Patrick Horgan - doesn't contribute enough from play or link the attack the way Joe and TJ can. Great player but a team to beat Limerick needs more

The corner positions were the hardest to pick.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1385 - 02/09/2021 16:31:21    2377302

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I think Limerick are so strong right now that a rest of Ireland team would struggle against them. Ive picked a best of the rest team that would take them on, i would love to know others take on this.
1 Murphy
2 Barrett
3 D.Burke
4 E.O'Donnell
5 R. Maher
6 De Burca
7 P.Walsh
8 Mannion
9 Kelly
10 Gleeson
11 Reid
12 Chin
13 Whelan
14 Horgan
15 Hutchinson"
Which Mannion? There's a few of them there, but none that really stands out. By any chance, did you mean Canning?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 732 - 02/09/2021 16:41:50    2377304

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Replying To Southsham:  "It would be a great spectacle, maybe each year kick off the year with the current All Ireland Champions v rest of Ireland team.
In both codes and have a day out with a double header"
Love that idea

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 166 - 02/09/2021 16:48:56    2377309

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Replying To Canuck:  "It is always difficult to pick best teams. You are reasonable accurate. It would be safer to pick the subs as well to go up against Limerick. It does not work anyway only on paper because great players may not function as a team. Neither of the centerfields picks are better than Barron. Tony Kelly will score more frees included and is excellent but Jamie's over all contribution to a game is greater."
It's only a bit of fun Canuck! For me I agree Barron is just about a better midfielder than Mannion but Tony Kelly is the best hurler in Ireland. Not sure about Hutchinson think I'd put Hoggy in the corner and Callanan in full forward. And maybe on current form I'd put Prunty in instead of Burke. But then Galway could win all round them next year and Burke and Mannion would be back in!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3301 - 02/09/2021 16:55:01    2377310

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Replying To brian:  "Not a bad take I'd have several different names

1 Eoin Murphy - Not even a debate

2 Daithi Burke - Can do it all, shuts down opposition
3 Conor Prunty - Stood head and shoulders above many this year and probable all star. The full back problem Waterford have had since the days of Sean Cullinane are over.
4 Eoin O'Donnell - very good call there

5 Callum Lyons - would be getting a second all star in a row except for the brilliance of Diarmuid Byrnes
6 Padraig Walsh - Holds the middle, drives on when needed, helps protect his full back
7 Mark Coleman - Great player to sweep and win loose ball, can win it in the air or down low

8 Jamie Barron - No one else should be in the conversation before him. Consistently outstanding
9 Tony Kelly - Consistently brilliant for the last 4-5 years. Best player in the country not playing for Limerick

10 Austin Gleeson - has all the ability in the world to be better than Cian Lynch, at his best no one can stop him. But its getting that from him every single day
11 TJ Reid - The man is a wizard and couldn't be left off
12 Lee Chin - his athleticism and ability to win ball should earn him a place. Never gives less than his all.

13 Conor Whelan - has it all, getting more powerful but galway need to keep him closer to goal
14 Joe Canning - still one of the best in the country, from play and free's
15 Seamus Callanan - Still the best finisher in hurling. If you need a guy to get a goal he's the guy

I know that won't be to everyone's liking
Tadhg De Burka whilst great needs a seventh defender to do what he does. Against Limerick you don't have that luxury and Walsh gets the nod
Patrick Horgan - doesn't contribute enough from play or link the attack the way Joe and TJ can. Great player but a team to beat Limerick needs more

The corner positions were the hardest to pick."
Lot of valid points there, i probably overlooked the waterford lads a small bit. Barron should definitely be in there i have to admit. Probably instead of cathal mannion.
Calum lyons or padraig walsh is also very close, maybe i shoudve also given this to the waterford man

hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 02/09/2021 16:55:37    2377311

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Replying To brian:  "Not a bad take I'd have several different names

1 Eoin Murphy - Not even a debate

2 Daithi Burke - Can do it all, shuts down opposition
3 Conor Prunty - Stood head and shoulders above many this year and probable all star. The full back problem Waterford have had since the days of Sean Cullinane are over.
4 Eoin O'Donnell - very good call there

5 Callum Lyons - would be getting a second all star in a row except for the brilliance of Diarmuid Byrnes
6 Padraig Walsh - Holds the middle, drives on when needed, helps protect his full back
7 Mark Coleman - Great player to sweep and win loose ball, can win it in the air or down low

8 Jamie Barron - No one else should be in the conversation before him. Consistently outstanding
9 Tony Kelly - Consistently brilliant for the last 4-5 years. Best player in the country not playing for Limerick

10 Austin Gleeson - has all the ability in the world to be better than Cian Lynch, at his best no one can stop him. But its getting that from him every single day
11 TJ Reid - The man is a wizard and couldn't be left off
12 Lee Chin - his athleticism and ability to win ball should earn him a place. Never gives less than his all.

13 Conor Whelan - has it all, getting more powerful but galway need to keep him closer to goal
14 Joe Canning - still one of the best in the country, from play and free's
15 Seamus Callanan - Still the best finisher in hurling. If you need a guy to get a goal he's the guy

I know that won't be to everyone's liking
Tadhg De Burka whilst great needs a seventh defender to do what he does. Against Limerick you don't have that luxury and Walsh gets the nod
Patrick Horgan - doesn't contribute enough from play or link the attack the way Joe and TJ can. Great player but a team to beat Limerick needs more

The corner positions were the hardest to pick."
Joe is retired!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3301 - 02/09/2021 16:55:52    2377312

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Replying To Viking66:  "Joe is retired!"
I'm sure he'd make an exception and he's still well able retired from intercounty or not

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1385 - 02/09/2021 16:59:46    2377314

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I think Limerick are so strong right now that a rest of Ireland team would struggle against them. Ive picked a best of the rest team that would take them on, i would love to know others take on this.
1 Murphy
2 Barrett
3 D.Burke
4 E.O'Donnell
5 R. Maher
6 De Burca
7 P.Walsh
8 Mannion
9 Kelly
10 Gleeson
11 Reid
12 Chin
13 Whelan
14 Horgan
15 Hutchinson"
I don't think we are better than a combination of the rest of the country but I love a team selection.

1 Eoin Murphy (Kilkenny)
2 Cathal Barrett (Tipperary)
3 Conor Prunty (Waterford)
4 Eoghan O'Donnell (Dublin)
5 Ronan Maher (Tipperary)
6 Austin Gleeson (Waterford)
7 Padraig Walsh (Kilkenny)
8 Darragh Fitzgibbon (Cork)
9 Tony Kelly (Clare)
10 Seamus Harnedy (Cork)
11 Joe Canning (Galway)
12 Lee Chin (Wexford)
13 TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
14 Georoid Whelan (Galway)
15 Pat Horgan (Cork)

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 02/09/2021 18:42:45    2377344

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Replying To Southsham:  "It would be a great spectacle, maybe each year kick off the year with the current All Ireland Champions v rest of Ireland team.
In both codes and have a day out with a double header"
I think something like that did happen one time. Probably before the All Stars and was maybe played in Wembley?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 705 - 02/09/2021 19:09:26    2377351

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1. Eoin Murphy

2. Liam Ryan
3. Daithi Burke
4. Eoghan O'Donnell

5. Chris Crummey
6. Tadhg De Burca
7. Padraig Maher

8. Jamie Barron
9. Darragh Fitzgibbon

10. Lee Chin
11. Tony Kelly
12. Austin Gleeson

13. Conor Whelan
14. Seamus Callanan
15. TJ Reid

Half-back line are all excellent in the air, three lads in full-back line are tough defenders. Unbelievable scoring potential up front.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 950 - 02/09/2021 19:30:05    2377360

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's only a bit of fun Canuck! For me I agree Barron is just about a better midfielder than Mannion but Tony Kelly is the best hurler in Ireland. Not sure about Hutchinson think I'd put Hoggy in the corner and Callanan in full forward. And maybe on current form I'd put Prunty in instead of Burke. But then Galway could win all round them next year and Burke and Mannion would be back in!"
Yes I would agree about Tony but if you are picking a centre field player Barron hands down. Actually the best for several years now. I would probably not pick Dessie as he have not done enough yet. i would at lear stick to backs forwards and mid fielders who play consistently in some of these positions. It's a bit of fun like you said and no harm in it.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 02/09/2021 19:41:25    2377362

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Replying To oneoff:  "I think something like that did happen one time. Probably before the All Stars and was maybe played in Wembley?"
It used be the rest of Ireland against the All-Ireland champions but the rest was made up with replacement for the champions all stars. Then it became the previous year all stars against the present ones.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 02/09/2021 20:17:31    2377376

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Replying To brian:  "I'm sure he'd make an exception and he's still well able retired from intercounty or not"
Very true.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3301 - 02/09/2021 20:56:23    2377397

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Replying To oneoff:  "I think something like that did happen one time. Probably before the All Stars and was maybe played in Wembley?"
I was at Kerry v Rest of Ireland football played in Portlaoise while Kerry were the reigning champions from 1986. Was probably late 86 or Spring 87.

Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 55 - 02/09/2021 22:14:40    2377414

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You know what, I like the sound of this. Wouldn't it be a great way to showcase football and hurling at the end of a hard season if the AI champions (say a month after the All Ireland) in both codes played a Rest-Of-Ireland team. Perhaps give the proceeds to a worthy charity, I'd say that you could get a good crowd interested in paying to see such games. Picking the Rest of Ireland team would be some crack mind. Who should pick the team ? who would be impartial.... maybe have some sort of pre-selection by a committee and then a final selection by the general public. So, let the committee come up with 3 players for each position and let the public narrow it down to the final winner for each place. It might be one way of having exceptional players from weaker counties play at least one game a season at the highest level.

I do think that the AI champions would win on most occasions though. Remember the Railway cup ? an All Galway Connacht team won so many Railway cups even during times when the Galway senior team weren't that good. But they were used to playing together. If ever such an idea came to fruition, I think that a limit of players from one single county should be put in place. So maybe a max of two per county so that you have at least 8 counties represented. This would broaden the appeal to spectators. If Laois had one or two playing then you would have most of the Laois hurling fraternity wanting to see how their players performed.

In 2021, I really don't think you could put together a team of 15 players from all of the other counties that would come within 8 points of Limerick.

Hoofhearted (Australia) - Posts: 43 - 02/09/2021 23:12:52    2377424

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I was in the Skydome in 1990 for Tipp against the All-Star and Dublin against Tyrone. 30,000 people turned up to see two real games not that b.s. that goes on in Chicago lately.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1644 - 02/09/2021 23:24:58    2377427

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Replying To brian:  "Not a bad take I'd have several different names

1 Eoin Murphy - Not even a debate

2 Daithi Burke - Can do it all, shuts down opposition
3 Conor Prunty - Stood head and shoulders above many this year and probable all star. The full back problem Waterford have had since the days of Sean Cullinane are over.
4 Eoin O'Donnell - very good call there

5 Callum Lyons - would be getting a second all star in a row except for the brilliance of Diarmuid Byrnes
6 Padraig Walsh - Holds the middle, drives on when needed, helps protect his full back
7 Mark Coleman - Great player to sweep and win loose ball, can win it in the air or down low

8 Jamie Barron - No one else should be in the conversation before him. Consistently outstanding
9 Tony Kelly - Consistently brilliant for the last 4-5 years. Best player in the country not playing for Limerick

10 Austin Gleeson - has all the ability in the world to be better than Cian Lynch, at his best no one can stop him. But its getting that from him every single day
11 TJ Reid - The man is a wizard and couldn't be left off
12 Lee Chin - his athleticism and ability to win ball should earn him a place. Never gives less than his all.

13 Conor Whelan - has it all, getting more powerful but galway need to keep him closer to goal
14 Joe Canning - still one of the best in the country, from play and free's
15 Seamus Callanan - Still the best finisher in hurling. If you need a guy to get a goal he's the guy

I know that won't be to everyone's liking
Tadhg De Burka whilst great needs a seventh defender to do what he does. Against Limerick you don't have that luxury and Walsh gets the nod
Patrick Horgan - doesn't contribute enough from play or link the attack the way Joe and TJ can. Great player but a team to beat Limerick needs more

The corner positions were the hardest to pick."
Bit of an aging forward line.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1043 - 03/09/2021 05:52:50    2377441

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