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Replying To Bon:  "Sick thing too about that final is that Limerick looked comfortable, possibly too comfortable for the first 65 minutes of that game.
Its one thing Johnny Dooley's 20 yard free going in, it was a super shot. But what was Joe Quaid doing pucking the ball back out so quickly and the defending for Pat O' Connors goal was shambolic. It was a an awful way to lose a game, they we're getting the 10 count at that stage. The points just sailed over for fun after that. I shed tears that day ."
The defending was all wrong for Johnny Dooley's goal. Joe Quaid should have been in the centre of the goal instead of being out on the left. But Limerick should have been at least 10 points up at that stage instead of 5.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 28/06/2021 23:13:50    2354403

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I know this might sound crazy to alot of you but for me as a supporter I often found semi final losses harder to bear. When you lose a final its over and in a day or two it's all about next year. When you lose a semi there s a constant reminder all the way to the final. Strange I know but I get over final defeats quicker."
I would to agree, I was very much of that mindset.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8589 - 28/06/2021 23:19:36    2354409

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The 2014 final still annoys me, we didn't play our game at all but others may say Kerry didn't let us, from my viewpoint though we just didn't turn up that day for whatever reason, McGuinness was the master at getting fellas mentally ready or so the story went but we sure as hell weren't ready that day, getting beat in last years Ulster final too was an awful flop, we played rubbish on the day but that's life, if you play your best and get beat then it's never as bad, just a sickener when you know you didn't put in your best performance."
Not being smart Tirchonaill but the post is your so rest AI final loss. Of course its 2014 as its the only final you lost. Agree Donegal did nt play well and a very poor game but it is your only loss.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 29/06/2021 00:33:03    2354429

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The 2014 final still annoys me, we didn't play our game at all but others may say Kerry didn't let us, from my viewpoint though we just didn't turn up that day for whatever reason, McGuinness was the master at getting fellas mentally ready or so the story went but we sure as hell weren't ready that day, getting beat in last years Ulster final too was an awful flop, we played rubbish on the day but that's life, if you play your best and get beat then it's never as bad, just a sickener when you know you didn't put in your best performance."
I often wonder did Donegal find it difficult to recover from their heroics against a supposedly unstoppable Dublin team in the 2014 semi final.

To win a game of that magnitude, and to put that much effort in, when they were rank outsiders (although I personally felt the dubs might struggle against that defence), the euphoria and celebrations that followed etc, it must have been a pain in the backside to wake up the following day and remember that they still had to play kerry in an all Ireland final.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1705 - 29/06/2021 02:07:31    2354434

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2006 - over after 10 mins

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1106 - 29/06/2021 02:54:18    2354437

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Replying To Bon:  "Sick thing too about that final is that Limerick looked comfortable, possibly too comfortable for the first 65 minutes of that game.
Its one thing Johnny Dooley's 20 yard free going in, it was a super shot. But what was Joe Quaid doing pucking the ball back out so quickly and the defending for Pat O' Connors goal was shambolic. It was a an awful way to lose a game, they we're getting the 10 count at that stage. The points just sailed over for fun after that. I shed tears that day ."
That loss haunted us in Limerick for years, was at the back of the mind in every match.
We could be 15pts up with 2 mins to go and it was a case of "remember 94" It was utterly traumatic..

I remember Leo O Connor coming on as a sub and scoring a great point to put us 5 up, aul fellah behind me roars out. " that's it, we have it won".. Seemed like seconds later Offaly had 2 goals scored and it just fell apart.

Quaid took a quick Puck out to drop it on to Ger Hegarty who was free, suppose he thought we need a point to settle the nerves. F**in' ball was in the back of the net quicker than it went out..
The sickener was we were a really good team back then. Definitely had it in us to win a few . In 1996 when Wexford beat us, we were very edgy, too nervous and it showed.

I had given up by 2018, never thought I'd see us win an All Ireland.. So happy to be so wrong.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 29/06/2021 08:46:20    2354454

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Replying To skillet:  "That loss haunted us in Limerick for years, was at the back of the mind in every match.
We could be 15pts up with 2 mins to go and it was a case of "remember 94" It was utterly traumatic..

I remember Leo O Connor coming on as a sub and scoring a great point to put us 5 up, aul fellah behind me roars out. " that's it, we have it won".. Seemed like seconds later Offaly had 2 goals scored and it just fell apart.

Quaid took a quick Puck out to drop it on to Ger Hegarty who was free, suppose he thought we need a point to settle the nerves. F**in' ball was in the back of the net quicker than it went out..
The sickener was we were a really good team back then. Definitely had it in us to win a few . In 1996 when Wexford beat us, we were very edgy, too nervous and it showed.

I had given up by 2018, never thought I'd see us win an All Ireland.. So happy to be so wrong."
I still feel if Tom Ryan was left on as manager we would have won 1, he was just after winning the league in 97 and he was removed a week later, Limerick hurling suffered for a long time after that. Also Tom Ryan should being another go in the 00's I tell you he would have put manners on the likes of some players who wanted it all their own way. But ad Tom said himself on numerous occasions the county board and JP didn't want him.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 29/06/2021 09:58:04    2354471

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Amazingly I've never witnessed Dublin lose an all Ireland. So i don't know how it feels.

10 finals. 8 wins, 2 draws.

And its 11 finals if you include 1995...... Although i can vaguely remember that as i was only 6

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 29/06/2021 10:48:18    2354500

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Not being smart Tirchonaill but the post is your so rest AI final loss. Of course its 2014 as its the only final you lost. Agree Donegal did nt play well and a very poor game but it is your only loss."
True enough Mick we win 2 out of every 3 All Ireland finals we play so a 66% strike rate LOL. we may look on the bright side.
I'll be forever grateful I was there to see us win it twice, many counties and great players never got that cup and medal.
I think this is Kerry's year Mick, I think Dublin might be a bit weaker this year with all the retirements, if Kerry break even at midfield and manage to contain Con and ye have the forwards to win it now.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 29/06/2021 11:01:57    2354505

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Replying To skillet:  "That loss haunted us in Limerick for years, was at the back of the mind in every match.
We could be 15pts up with 2 mins to go and it was a case of "remember 94" It was utterly traumatic..

I remember Leo O Connor coming on as a sub and scoring a great point to put us 5 up, aul fellah behind me roars out. " that's it, we have it won".. Seemed like seconds later Offaly had 2 goals scored and it just fell apart.

Quaid took a quick Puck out to drop it on to Ger Hegarty who was free, suppose he thought we need a point to settle the nerves. F**in' ball was in the back of the net quicker than it went out..
The sickener was we were a really good team back then. Definitely had it in us to win a few . In 1996 when Wexford beat us, we were very edgy, too nervous and it showed.

I had given up by 2018, never thought I'd see us win an All Ireland.. So happy to be so wrong."
That was a good score Leo O Connor got too.
It was an awful shame Limerick didn't get something out of those finals, I suppose that's what made the past few seasons all the sweeter. Even with the false dawn of the 3 in a row U21's, with so much of that talent falling to the wayside. Limerick has always been a great Hurling County in my lifetime it was great to see then make the breakthrough.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 29/06/2021 11:20:20    2354514

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All All Ireland losses are hard to take when you look back on them. You often either lose a close game or maybe don't perform on the day.
The 3 losses I remember, in 1990/ 1991/ 2001 are all bad for different reasons.
1990 was hard because the rivalry with Cork was very strong and we played badly.
2001 because we were so flat after a very strange build up to a final with the 15 point beating of Kerry (arguably our best ever result in a championship game) in the semi making us red hot favourites and than the whole news cycle being dominated by 9/11 in the build up. Even though we were convincingly beaten I feel had we been mentally right we possibly should have been able to win that game with the team we had.
1991 for me was the worst final loss to take. Overall 1991 was for me the most enjoyable year being a Meath supporter. We had the 4 games with Dublin and in half our games we seemed to come back from the dead to either win or draw. Playing 10 championship games in a season back then was amazing, remember this was long before the back door was even thought of. O'Rourke not being able to start that game after the year he had on top O'Malley being out made us feel we could easily have won that game. The comeback in that game after O'Rourke came on was amazing, cutting there lead from 11 to 2 but we just ran out of time (ref didn't play much injury time, 2 points in it with the comeback, 2 more minutes and we might have had them). That loss is kind of, looking back on it a 'what might have been' loss. It would have been one of the most remembered all Ireland wins had we pulled it off, would have been a great ending for that great group of Meath players.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1347 - 29/06/2021 12:09:38    2354544

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Replying To realdub:  "I would to agree, I was very much of that mindset."
Glad I'm not alone Realdub lol

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 29/06/2021 12:57:52    2354582

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "True enough Mick we win 2 out of every 3 All Ireland finals we play so a 66% strike rate LOL. we may look on the bright side.
I'll be forever grateful I was there to see us win it twice, many counties and great players never got that cup and medal.
I think this is Kerry's year Mick, I think Dublin might be a bit weaker this year with all the retirements, if Kerry break even at midfield and manage to contain Con and ye have the forwards to win it now."
Yes you have indeed a good win rate Tirchonaill. On 14 McFadden was very unlucky not to equalise at the death. Oh I live in hope this year but we not the finished article yet. Like yourselves we can score plenty but can be dodgy at the back

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 29/06/2021 13:03:06    2354585

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The 2015 all Ireland loss to kilkenny was especially depressing for me. After the amazing semi against tipp that year there was a real buzz about hurling in the city (which there isn't usually), everyone was really looking forward to the final and I think it would have done city hurling the world of good had we won it but no better team than that kilkenny one to come along and wipe out that type of enthusiasm lol.

As a neutral I always felt that while all losses hurt, kerrys loss to tyrone in 08,Mayos loss in 2017, and tipps loss to kilkenny in 2014 were especially painful for the players involved.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1705 - 29/06/2021 13:32:17    2354593

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1950 All Ireland football final. Mayo beat Louth with a freak of a goal with five mins to go.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 784 - 29/06/2021 13:52:41    2354604

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Replying To Ollie2:  "1950 All Ireland football final. Mayo beat Louth with a freak of a goal with five mins to go."
My father to this day really doesn't like Galway because of the rivalry Meath had with them in the 1960's (most find it funny that he still holds this grudge from matches in the 1960's). Galway's 3 in a row team beat Meath in 1 semi and 1 final. In the semi final that Galway won seemingly Jack Quinn scored a great goal which the ref called back for a Meath free (which was then missed) and it may have cost Meath the game.
According to my father Galway boo-ed the Meath team off after the match. According to my father this led to a bit of needle in Meath Galway matches at this time with Galway rubbing in their 1966 final win over Meath.
My father is the only one who I have heard saying there was a good bit of needle in Meath Galway games back then (possibly because it happen so long ago) so I'm not sure is he exaggerating or not.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1347 - 29/06/2021 14:43:19    2354626

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes you have indeed a good win rate Tirchonaill. On 14 McFadden was very unlucky not to equalise at the death. Oh I live in hope this year but we not the finished article yet. Like yourselves we can score plenty but can be dodgy at the back"
It could be a shootout so if we manage to meet in the All Ireland semi final, think our defence is worse than yours but there's a lot of football to be played before that. First thing we need to do is beat Derry and get Murphy fit again.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 29/06/2021 17:17:17    2354676

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Cannot understand why Murphy was playing against Down.
Ok, you would have to presume the management were of the impression that he was fit but surely it was one of those occasions where it was a completely unnecessary risk.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/06/2021 19:06:58    2354708

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Cannot understand why Murphy was playing against Down.
Ok, you would have to presume the management were of the impression that he was fit but surely it was one of those occasions where it was a completely unnecessary risk."
Yes I can't understand why Bonner played him either, if he was training and feeling good I suppose he is so eager to play it's hard to to say no,
but another few weeks protecting that injury surely was the smart thing to do, looks like a very stupid decision now though.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 29/06/2021 19:49:45    2354720

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Yes I can't understand why Bonner played him either, if he was training and feeling good I suppose he is so eager to play it's hard to to say no,
but another few weeks protecting that injury surely was the smart thing to do, looks like a very stupid decision now though."
That's it,he won't appear against Derry but after that you would want him available. It's alright I suppose as long as he's not out for anything more than a 2-3 weeks.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/06/2021 21:31:28    2354750

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