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I don't remember Galway throwing anything away in '83, besides a few digs :D
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8589 - 03/07/2021 16:37:10 2355649 Link 4 |
Years ago, when going to matches in the 1980's I remember some old Meath supporters used to say that Meath had a great chance of winning in 1951 but we're victims of another success that year. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1346 - 04/07/2021 12:24:39 2355963 Link 1 |
In Tyrone, certainly up to 86, nobody took the AI seriously. That may sound ridiculous, and hard to believe, but it's the truth. Partly this was about low self esteem. Most Ulster counties were convinced they'd never beat Dublin or Kerry, so it was pointless trying. The Ulster championship was the goal, and then you had a big day out in Dublin. I'm old enough to remember Tyrone teams training well and being v focussed on Ulster, and then lapsing into party-mode after the Ulster final. Tyrone played Cork in 73. There wasn't even a team bus. Individuals getting lifts from friends and family. Guys playing the next day, the previous evening, drinking in their local in a village in Tyrone! Downing shots, everyone cheering. Unbelievable stuff. Meantime, the Cork lads were already in their hotel! A friend of mine was down for the match. He returned to his hotel at 3am, a bit drunk. But that was ok - he was just a fan. Going into the hotel, he heard his name shouted, looking up, a first team Tyrone player (who shall remain nameless), "mooning" out the window at him, cheering, drunk as a skunk, at 3 am. Such was the level of "preparation". Pat King scored a goal for Tyrone v Cork, but he was un-typical as he was teetotal and ahead of his time in relation to fitness. Down aside, there was a definite Ulster inferiority complex back then, a feeling you were going to be beat anyway, so you just turned the occasion into a big party. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 04/07/2021 13:58:33 2355988 Link 1 |
Understandable under the circumstances I suppose. Considering all that was going on during those years the northern teams done well to keep going. Great to see Derry compete in Croke Park again recently. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 04/07/2021 16:04:51 2356027 Link 0 |
I would say that up to the start of the1990's the feeling would have been that the old straight knock system was advantageous to the Ulster and Connaught football counties for the reason that, most of the time, the standard it took to win a Leinster or Munster football championship was higher than what was taken to win an Ulster or Connaught championship yet the Ulster and Connaught champions were guaranteed spots in the last 4 of the championship. Back then once every 3 years the Leinster and Munster champions would play in the semi final and it would be considered the real All Ireland final by the GAA public.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1346 - 04/07/2021 18:46:20 2356139 Link 0 |
To answer the initial question, it's 1930.
PearseBro (Monaghan) - Posts: 459 - 05/07/2021 13:29:39 2356528 Link 0 |
Definitely 1991 against Down, now Down deserved the win but 5 more minutes and Meath would most likely have won having played over 10 matches in that campaign AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 05/07/2021 15:01:06 2356579 Link 0 |
Mick O'Dwyer also said that too about Cork being the second best team in Ireland at that time!
johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 05/07/2021 16:12:50 2356622 Link 0 |
True Johnno
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 05/07/2021 17:27:12 2356661 Link 1 |
Connacht and Ulster were always seen as the poorer relations and there was a bit of arrogance from the other two. I remember Kildare being red hot favs in 1998 Nd Galway Beaty them in the final. Similar happened in 2001 just because Meath walloped a Kerry team that didn't show up they were automatically favs but Galway upskittled them in the final.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 06/07/2021 08:14:45 2356823 Link 3 |
Galway losing to Dublin in 1983 was a particularly sore one for my father. He was a proud Galway man and had seen Galway lose plenty of finals in both hurling and football. The 1981 and 1990 hurling finals were tough to take for him but ever after he couldn't talk about 1983. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 06/07/2021 09:58:43 2356842 Link 0 |
Has to be the 2018 final v Limerick. So many games with replays that year v Kilkenny and clare. Played Kilkenny 3 times that year win 2 and drew one, If we had another week before the final I think bodies should have been right. And then to nearly draw it with an unbelievable comeback in the finish. But very disappointing . ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 06/07/2021 11:09:26 2356869 Link 0 |
Yeah maybe a bit of arrogance but mainly confidence or over confidence but that's only natural in a way. It's not there now and for good reason.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 06/07/2021 11:19:42 2356874 Link 0 |
If we had lost that game I think it would have been worse than 1994.. I feel chills just thinking about it.. Would have been so typical of limerick to snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory after being 8 up on 70 mins.. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 06/07/2021 11:23:26 2356875 Link 0 |
From a Tyrone point of view the loss in 1995 was hard to take. Never got going and the rub of the green was not with us at the end when we could have had a reply. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 06/07/2021 11:31:39 2356882 Link 0 |
One would have to say if two members of our Full Back Line ( Mike Casey and Ritchie English) had did not have to go off, it might not have been as close as it was at the end. The face is taht any team that beat Cork, Tipp and Kilkenny on the way to the Final were always going to be hard to beat.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 06/07/2021 18:47:17 2357080 Link 0 |
Honestly don't think anything could top 1994. That's one of the worst ever capitulations in a final that I can remember. Up there with Jean Van De Velde in the British open when he ended up in a pond with his trousers rolled round his calves trying a recovery shot after a disaster of a final hole. It was dreadful to watch the whole thing unfold for him but great television. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 06/07/2021 19:07:48 2357092 Link 0 |
Maybe-but Offaly had in turn wrecked two good teams in Leinster with sharp goal laden bursts. They were eight points down, I think against KK with fifteen minutes gone and they scored three goals in a few minutes and ended up fifteen points up at one stage, although the three in a row chasing KK men brought it back down to 8 by the end. Remember they also did a demolition job on Kilkenny the following year so this was no bad Offaly team and they were worthy champions. Another thing, in relation to Limericks collapse was the fact they had conceded two goals in the closing stages when well ahead against both Cork and Clare that year. Was there ever a serious attempt by the group to rectify this tendency.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 06/07/2021 21:21:06 2357146 Link 0 |
Oh absolutely... No argument from me on that..we had a fantastic run that year. If fact I think a bigger factor than our injuries was Skehills injury, the one that added all the extra time.. Flanagan had a great goal opportunity but hit the keeper instead. There should never have been almost 10 mins extra time. We would have been out of sight.. Another goal at that stage was final nail in the coffin for Galway. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 06/07/2021 21:23:33 2357148 Link 0 |
From a Donegal perspective, losing to a very poor Kerry team in 14 still hurts. 2 fluke goals but fair play to them. TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1141 - 06/07/2021 23:05:32 2357191 Link 0 |