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Shock Results In Days Gone By - Even In The National League

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes 1993 Cork gave Mayo a terrible beating. I think it was 20 points. Can't remember Connaught final."
the fact you cant remember it says it all, it was an woeful game of football, sticking in my memory for a very funny incident where I forget which team was attacking, but they were desperate for a goal, and a forward lashed onto the ball and it flew wide, the umpire was already standing with arms wide and the ball came and hit him lets say "in the waist"...the poor man fell to the ground and was in a heap for a minute or two...Ide say he flinches still if he thinks of it...it was so funny at the time..a desperate game of football...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 873 - 22/02/2021 21:11:22    2332481

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "the fact you cant remember it says it all, it was an woeful game of football, sticking in my memory for a very funny incident where I forget which team was attacking, but they were desperate for a goal, and a forward lashed onto the ball and it flew wide, the umpire was already standing with arms wide and the ball came and hit him lets say "in the waist"...the poor man fell to the ground and was in a heap for a minute or two...Ide say he flinches still if he thinks of it...it was so funny at the time..a desperate game of football..."
Ah that's hilarious. You ve some memory fair play to you pardon the punn.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2796 - 22/02/2021 22:52:48    2332494

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I actually think the league is treated with more respect by the bigger counties than years ago. I remember years ago Kerry would try out players but the regulars would be unfit and overweight. Nowadays teams try to win it more imo."
"The Fatties ", I think Micko used to call the regulars who might have enjoyed the break a bit too much over the winter. I'd say they dreaded the thought of what was coming and they a good few pounds over the required weigh in. It was extra laps for the lucky few. ;-)

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 23/02/2021 09:50:18    2332504

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  ""The Fatties ", I think Micko used to call the regulars who might have enjoyed the break a bit too much over the winter. I'd say they dreaded the thought of what was coming and they a good few pounds over the required weigh in. It was extra laps for the lucky few. ;-)"
Yes Dubh linn "the fatties was right." They would winter well as Micko would say but they would pay dearly when the heavy training started.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2796 - 23/02/2021 10:49:54    2332514

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From my own counties hurling perspective we claimed the Leinster minor hurling title back in 1929 beating none other than Kilkenny in the final. We brought Wexford to a replay in 1951 with them going on to win the Leinster senior title that year. Also in 1994 NHL we beat Offaly by a point (not sure if this was the league before or after the All-Ireland). The NHL were lethal in the 90's as many a "big" team got a scare from a weaker hurling county. I can also remember from reading Donal Og Cusacks book that in his first league game for Cork was against Meath and they only won by a point with a late winner. The Winter leagues I would imagine in bogs of pitches took some major skills out of the game.

Some other notable hurling results
Mount Leinster Rangers beating a hugely fancied Oulart the Ballagh in the Leinster club hurling final.
Waterford shocking Tipp in the 2008 AI semi final, with Davy and John Mullane rolling and celebrating afterwards.
UUJ beating Cork IT in the Fitzgibbon cup hurling recently aswell.

From a football perspective always think of Monaghan beating Armagh in the first round of the Ulster championship in 2003 (Armagh were the reigning AI champs.
Limerick hammering Meath in Darren Fays last game in 2008 with Ian Ryan scoring a hat trick for the Treaty side.
Wexford beating Armagh in 2008 to get to the AI semi finals, that was a very good Wexford team and should have won a Leinster at least.
Leitrim claiming Connacht in 1994, still celebrated and rightly so.
Sligo beating Tyrone in 2002 and being unlucky not to beat Armagh in Navan.
The Tipperary minor footballers beating Dublin in the 2011 AI Final.
Mullinalaghta beating Kilmacud Crokes in the Leinster football final.
St Galls (Antrim) playing Kilmurry-Ibrickane (Clare) in the 2010 AI club final, just think of the teams they went through to get there (I dont mean this as a dig but both being from traditionally weaker footballing counties).

butterfly (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 23/02/2021 10:56:49    2332515

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Cork were All Ireland hurling champions in 1986 , but in the semi final they beat Antrim 7-11 to 1-24. It kinda shows Antrim were a serious outfit. They ran KK close in 87 semi final too before making the breakthrough in 89.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 693 - 23/02/2021 11:29:09    2332519

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "Cork were All Ireland hurling champions in 1986 , but in the semi final they beat Antrim 7-11 to 1-24. It kinda shows Antrim were a serious outfit. They ran KK close in 87 semi final too before making the breakthrough in 89."
Forgot about 1987, we only lost the All-Ireland semi by 7 pts which was Kilkenny's narrowest victory that year before losing the final.

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 452 - 23/02/2021 15:50:20    2332545

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Replying To M Lyster:  "Forgot about 1987, we only lost the All-Ireland semi by 7 pts which was Kilkenny's narrowest victory that year before losing the final."
Yeah 87 semi final played in Dundalk which is one for a GAA Quiz.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 693 - 23/02/2021 20:35:40    2332570

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Clare beat Cork in a Munster semi final in hurling in 1993 I reember it was a huge shock at thae time..the birth of the great Clare team of the mid to late 1990's in hindsight...
June 13 1993
Semi-Final
Clare 2-07 - J. McInerney (1-0), F. Tuohy (1-0), G. O'Loughlin (0-3), C. Lyons (0-1), J. Russell (0-1), J. Chaplin (0-1), D. Tobin (0-1).
Cork0-10 - B. Egan (0-3), J. Fitzgibbon (0-2), P. Buckley (0-2), M. Mullins (0-1), G.

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 873 - 24/02/2021 15:14:25    2332637

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Waterford beating a star studded Kerry team in 1958. Rumour had it that some of the panel went out to Tramore beach and did not show up for the game. Also that the bus left for home without some of the Kerry players. None of it true. They were just turned over by Waterford. Many of the Deise hurlers from "57 to '63 were excellent footballers and were on this team.
Kerry returned the compliment in hurling in 1992 the year Waterford won the under 21 All-Ireland.
It was not such a shock either when a Waterford team that included Brick and Shane Walsh beat Kerry with Gooch in the under 21 Munster final.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1708 - 24/02/2021 18:56:46    2332661

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Cork beating Kerry in 1987 Munster football final was a shock too and many dont really mention it (many dont even remember that Kerry were coming into 1987 on the back of a 3 in a row, 84,5 & 6..and while it was an aging team, I remember the news papers that day all leant towards Kerry, Cork pulled off some feat that day, restricting Kerry to a single point in the first half, and that was scored a couple of minutes before half time...I cannot recall in modern times Kerry only scoring a single point in a half, and its something I think was lost in the fact that Cork lost the eventual AI final to Meath (that game was on Gold on Sky tonight...they great Jimmy Kerrigan, what a servant of Cork football) people also tend to forget Cork had alot of dual players that year, and were involved with the famous replay loss to Tipp...1987 was an exciting year when I think back of it now..I think the Cork win over Kerry was by about 0-13 to 0-06/7 I think..it was a shock to me and many that day..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 873 - 27/02/2021 23:20:42    2333013

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Fermanagh beating armagh in 2004."
2004 was a year of shocks alright. Fermanagh then drawing with Mayo for a place in Final. Derry good run as well.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1021 - 28/02/2021 13:57:14    2333070

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Fermanagh beating armagh in 2004."
2004 was a year of shocks alright. Fermanagh then drawing with Mayo for a place in Final. Derry good run as well.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1021 - 28/02/2021 13:59:05    2333071

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Cork beating Kerry in 1987 Munster football final was a shock too and many dont really mention it (many dont even remember that Kerry were coming into 1987 on the back of a 3 in a row, 84,5 & 6..and while it was an aging team, I remember the news papers that day all leant towards Kerry, Cork pulled off some feat that day, restricting Kerry to a single point in the first half, and that was scored a couple of minutes before half time...I cannot recall in modern times Kerry only scoring a single point in a half, and its something I think was lost in the fact that Cork lost the eventual AI final to Meath (that game was on Gold on Sky tonight...they great Jimmy Kerrigan, what a servant of Cork football) people also tend to forget Cork had alot of dual players that year, and were involved with the famous replay loss to Tipp...1987 was an exciting year when I think back of it now..I think the Cork win over Kerry was by about 0-13 to 0-06/7 I think..it was a shock to me and many that day.."
Fairplay I don't thí K that was as big a shock as you might think. Definately not to Kerry anyway. The year before Kerry won a tight battle in Killarney. At the time Kerry always found Cork very tough. In 87 Kerry and Cork drew in the Páirc when Cork were the better team.Mike Sheehy got a late goal for Kerry and Tompkins equalised for Cork at the death. Kerry were coming to an end and Cork won the replay easily iin Killarney by 13 points to 1-5 (Kerry getting a late consolation goal by Dermot Hanafin). Kerry were hanging on the first day and were finished after that for a few years. Also that was a fantastic Cork team (one of their best ever).

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2796 - 28/02/2021 14:09:44    2333074

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Cork beating Kerry in 1987 Munster football final was a shock too and many dont really mention it (many dont even remember that Kerry were coming into 1987 on the back of a 3 in a row, 84,5 & 6..and while it was an aging team, I remember the news papers that day all leant towards Kerry, Cork pulled off some feat that day, restricting Kerry to a single point in the first half, and that was scored a couple of minutes before half time...I cannot recall in modern times Kerry only scoring a single point in a half, and its something I think was lost in the fact that Cork lost the eventual AI final to Meath (that game was on Gold on Sky tonight...they great Jimmy Kerrigan, what a servant of Cork football) people also tend to forget Cork had alot of dual players that year, and were involved with the famous replay loss to Tipp...1987 was an exciting year when I think back of it now..I think the Cork win over Kerry was by about 0-13 to 0-06/7 I think..it was a shock to me and many that day.."
Actually fairplay you mention the fact Kerry scored only one point in first half. I'm sure alot of our Meath posters will remember Meath giving Kerry a trouncing in the 01 semi final and Kerry scored a solitary point in the second half from Declan Quill.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2796 - 28/02/2021 14:12:58    2333076

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Replying To Saynothing:  "2004 was a year of shocks alright. Fermanagh then drawing with Mayo for a place in Final. Derry good run as well."
Crazy year...I remember that double header in Croke Park. Mayo v Tyrone was on after and Fermanagh invaded the field...mad scenes. Mayo then beat Tyrone.

Fermanagh should have beaten us the first day.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10843 - 28/02/2021 14:25:28    2333077

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Crazy year...I remember that double header in Croke Park. Mayo v Tyrone was on after and Fermanagh invaded the field...mad scenes. Mayo then beat Tyrone.

Fermanagh should have beaten us the first day."
Yes 2004 Fermanagh beat Armagh Meath and Cor and Westmeath became Leinter champions

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2796 - 28/02/2021 20:44:04    2333116

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Crazy year...I remember that double header in Croke Park. Mayo v Tyrone was on after and Fermanagh invaded the field...mad scenes. Mayo then beat Tyrone.

Fermanagh should have beaten us the first day."
Have to laugh now, us waving Armagh fans home only for us to be heading up the same road with our tail between our legs shortly after.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1021 - 28/02/2021 22:04:46    2333122

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Replying To Saynothing:  "2004 was a year of shocks alright. Fermanagh then drawing with Mayo for a place in Final. Derry good run as well."
I remember it well,the two favourites for the all Ireland armagh and tyrone both out within 2 hours of one another, Seismic Saturday, marty Morrissey called it.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 957 - 01/03/2021 07:29:47    2333128

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Actually fairplay you mention the fact Kerry scored only one point in first half. I'm sure alot of our Meath posters will remember Meath giving Kerry a trouncing in the 01 semi final and Kerry scored a solitary point in the second half from Declan Quill."
good point "excuse the pun"...I actually forgot about that game too..yes indeed now it comes to mind...not bettering that but the kerry team coming in with 3 in a row behind them and raging favourites in a Munster final would probably see 1987 as more of a shock if you get my drift, holding Kerry to one point in any half though is a fair achievement....getting the ball back off of Dublin now with their basket ball tactics is as much of feat almost:)

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 873 - 01/03/2021 12:00:48    2333151

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