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Replying To jm25: "I'm not sure this is the case but from memory sky would have been showing similar games Limerick v Waterford Limerick v Cork I can remember been on regularly enough galway Wexford and Kilkenny Dublin always seemed to be on sky Only thing I realised today which I'm taking aback with is gaa go have more games then RTÉ I'm not overly pushed with deal enough though can only get gaa go on tablet but i feel more of a drive to change this deal then there was with sky" There's a lot more football games this year so there's more to push potential customers towards GAAGO. No coincidence that Sky deal finished and the following season there's more intercounty championship games than ever with GAAGO holding the big draw games and more games than will be on RTE television. They might think about putting a bit more information on their site to advise people how to watch games if they do buy. 'Subscribers can watch games on our website (on their desktop computer, laptop, tablet, iPad, mobile device), through our mobile apps (available to download on iOS and Android mobile devices) which support casting through Chromecast and Airplay or directly on a smart tv via our Roku, Fire, Apple and GoogleTV on-tv apps.' No advice on how to connect with all those alternatives. Has anyone at GAAGO tested all above and if so can they not put up a how to video on GAA YouTube channel? Won't work on Google TV app. Might work on a Smart TV with Google TV installed. How is someone not tech savvy going to connect to GAAGO with support like that? The worst of it all is like Ticketmaster ticket system it's a good service. But a lot of people are put off because it's not explained well enough. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 09/05/2023 13:17:16 2477015 Link
Replying To Midleton: "Hello GAA. Ever heard of a TV station called TG4? They were the first station ever to show a Saturday evening GAA game (football, Cork V Kerry). Why weren't they offered the chance to show those matches? Oh, yes, of course, they might have accepted and people might have been able to watch them for free. Can't have that, of course." Won't suit your narrative, but TG4 were indeed offered the chance to show those matches. They or any other broadcaster could have bid for the package of matches that would otherwise have been on Sky, and which have now ended up on GAA GO. They chose not to do so. I can't say why exactly they made that decision since I'm not a TG4 executive, but it certainly wouldn't be the case that the GAA said "no, go away TG4, you've got enough already". Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 09/05/2023 13:18:55 2477016 Link
Replying To Midleton: "Hello GAA. Ever heard of a TV station called TG4? They were the first station ever to show a Saturday evening GAA game (football, Cork V Kerry). Why weren't they offered the chance to show those matches? Oh, yes, of course, they might have accepted and people might have been able to watch them for free. Can't have that, of course." TG4 didnt pay to show games so they cant they were entitled to bid like any other station and show games but they didnt out bid any other station... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 09/05/2023 13:36:30 2477025 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "TG4 didnt pay to show games so they cant they were entitled to bid like any other station and show games but they didnt out bid any other station..." I think you are missing the point. What was the bidding price for starters?, and surely the logic of this argument is that all games will go behind a paywall? The whole point of a "national broadcaster" is that as a publicly funded, directly in case of RTÉ, entity that it caters to public demand. The public demand in this case is that they show a top level GAA match on each of the Saturday's in the three months they show our games in the first place. Surely not much to ask is it? They show all sorts of other stuff that few people could be bothered their ** paying into. And there is a place too for that in relation to minority sports like women's rugby, FAI and so on. BarneyGrant (Dublin)** - Posts: 3118 - 09/05/2023 15:17:54 2477051 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I think you are missing the point. What was the bidding price for starters?, and surely the logic of this argument is that all games will go behind a paywall? The whole point of a "national broadcaster" is that as a publicly funded, directly in case of RTÉ, entity that it caters to public demand. The public demand in this case is that they show a top level GAA match on each of the Saturday's in the three months they show our games in the first place. Surely not much to ask is it? They show all sorts of other stuff that few people could be bothered their ** paying into. And there is a place too for that in relation to minority sports like women's rugby, FAI and so on." That RTE is publically funded doesnt mean it will or has to cater to every and all demands of the public. There is many hundreds and hundreds of thousands who dont care for any sport at any time. KillingFields (Limerick)** - Posts: 3674 - 09/05/2023 15:29:09 2477054 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I think you are missing the point. What was the bidding price for starters?, and surely the logic of this argument is that all games will go behind a paywall? The whole point of a "national broadcaster" is that as a publicly funded, directly in case of RTÉ, entity that it caters to public demand. The public demand in this case is that they show a top level GAA match on each of the Saturday's in the three months they show our games in the first place. Surely not much to ask is it? They show all sorts of other stuff that few people could be bothered their ** paying into. And there is a place too for that in relation to minority sports like women's rugby, FAI and so on." What KillingFields said. And a couple of points directly related to your own post: - I don't know what the asking price was for the package of games that have ended up on GAA GO. I'm neither a Croke Park official nor a TV station executive. But I simply don't understand the so-called "logic" part of the end of your first paragraph. - Yes, there's a wish or even "demand" from a portion of the public (the GAA community) for more GAA matches to be shown free-to-air on RTE. But it doesn't follow that there's a general public demand. As the Limerick man points out, RTE could alienate more viewers than it would gain if there was indeed live GAA taking up hours of broadcast time every Saturday as well as Sunday. - Similarly, RTE are taking a lot of stick for showing the Coronation, but there was a certain public demand for that too. They've reported that more than 500,000 tuned in at some stage. As big a hurling supporter and advocate as I am myself, I seriously doubt there'd have been that many watching Cork v Tipp. - Look, if RTE were to cater to every public demand, as you seem to believe they should do, then they'd both have to get rid of The Late Late Show, and keep it. They'd have to show the Eurovision stuff this week for the people who like it, but on the other hand, many more people think it's an awful heap of you-know-what, so they'd have to heed that "demand" to ignore it and stop taking part in it. Pikeman96 (Wexford)** - Posts: 2621 - 09/05/2023 15:57:47 2477069 Link
Of course, if there are a substantial number of people whose "cultural" lodestone is the English monarchy, English soccer and English soap opera, not to mention Irish people talking endlessly about all that stuff, then that is part of public demand, Good luck to them. I don't pay for it so not on my tab. however, for those who do, two hours every Saturday out of all that for the 12 weeks before the GAA packs up its marquee for another 9 months is hardly much to ask is it? BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 09/05/2023 16:22:12 2477075 Link
Is there many clubs taking advantage of the GAAGO deal for them to screen live games at clubhouses? This surely could be turned into a positive thing where older people get to socialise and watch the match, not everyone wants to watch it in a pub either. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 09/05/2023 17:53:34 2477105 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "That RTE is publically funded doesnt mean it will or has to cater to every and all demands of the public. There is many hundreds and hundreds of thousands who dont care for any sport at any time." Lots of coverage of Tik Tok Women's 6 nations on RTE sports. A very minority sport. But RTE cannot show Cork V Tipp. Something wrong somewhere. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2565 - 09/05/2023 20:07:16 2477134 Link
I'm not going out of my way to bat for either RTE or Croke Park here. I'm just trying to be realistic. And I just don't think it's realistic to expect every match that might turn out to be a good one to be shown free-to-air on national TV. Huge crowds of people have no interest in sport at all. A good chunk of people who do like sport have no interest in the GAA, and some diehards actively dislike it. The "public demand" for more live GAA on free-to-air TV simply isn't as great across the board as it obviously is in an echo chamber like this one. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 09/05/2023 20:26:04 2477139 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Of course, if there are a substantial number of people whose "cultural" lodestone is the English monarchy, English soccer and English soap opera, not to mention Irish people talking endlessly about all that stuff, then that is part of public demand, Good luck to them. I don't pay for it so not on my tab. however, for those who do, two hours every Saturday out of all that for the 12 weeks before the GAA packs up its marquee for another 9 months is hardly much to ask is it?" 2 hours every Saturday? What about the 6 to 7 hours of GAA action RTE shows on a Sunday, isn't that enough for you, or do you want more? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2654 - 09/05/2023 20:41:25 2477142 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm not going out of my way to bat for either RTE or Croke Park here. I'm just trying to be realistic. And I just don't think it's realistic to expect every match that might turn out to be a good one to be shown free-to-air on national TV. Huge crowds of people have no interest in sport at all. A good chunk of people who do like sport have no interest in the GAA, and some diehards actively dislike it. The "public demand" for more live GAA on free-to-air TV simply isn't as great across the board as it obviously is in an echo chamber like this one." This is it. The club championship now gets good coverage during the winter and league competitions in the spring. I don't think any of the other sport domestic competitions get as much coverage. And rightly the GAA gets more. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 10/05/2023 10:37:00 2477226 Link
JPs Christmas kindness has brought out the anti GAA crowd in a fit of rage LOL brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 14/12/2023 21:18:02 2516838 Link
Replying To brisbane: "JPs Christmas kindness has brought out the anti GAA crowd in a fit of rage LOL" Good enough for them, I'd say it's killing them. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2085 - 15/12/2023 13:15:03 2516927 Link
Replying To Bon: "Good enough for them, I'd say it's killing them." It is. One of the head honchoes in Dublin soccer club issued an infantile tweet. Same club would take money out of a collection plate :-) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 15/12/2023 13:25:56 2516929 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "What KillingFields said. And a couple of points directly related to your own post: - I don't know what the asking price was for the package of games that have ended up on GAA GO. I'm neither a Croke Park official nor a TV station executive. But I simply don't understand the so-called "logic" part of the end of your first paragraph. - Yes, there's a wish or even "demand" from a portion of the public (the GAA community) for more GAA matches to be shown free-to-air on RTE. But it doesn't follow that there's a general public demand. As the Limerick man points out, RTE could alienate more viewers than it would gain if there was indeed live GAA taking up hours of broadcast time every Saturday as well as Sunday. - Similarly, RTE are taking a lot of stick for showing the Coronation, but there was a certain public demand for that too. They've reported that more than 500,000 tuned in at some stage. As big a hurling supporter and advocate as I am myself, I seriously doubt there'd have been that many watching Cork v Tipp. - Look, if RTE were to cater to every public demand, as you seem to believe they should do, then they'd both have to get rid of The Late Late Show, and keep it. They'd have to show the Eurovision stuff this week for the people who like it, but on the other hand, many more people think it's an awful heap of you-know-what, so they'd have to heed that "demand" to ignore it and stop taking part in it." Put the Late Late Show and the Eurovision behind a paywall and see how many will tune in… 0% ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3025 - 15/12/2023 15:27:18 2516950 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Put the Late Late Show and the Eurovision behind a paywall and see how many will tune in… 0%" An interesting point, I rarely watch either show. I think that the Late, Late is long past it's best, time to finish it up. How many young people tune in nowadays. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 15/12/2023 18:41:03 2516978 Link
Replying To galwayford: "Lots of coverage of Tik Tok Women's 6 nations on RTE sports. A very minority sport. But RTE cannot show Cork V Tipp. Something wrong somewhere." You mean Killing Fields, who will always praise rugby. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 15/12/2023 18:44:03 2516979 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "2 hours every Saturday? What about the 6 to 7 hours of GAA action RTE shows on a Sunday, isn't that enough for you, or do you want more?" Why the problem with 2 hours on a Saturday, does it clash with your cricket? tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 338 - 15/12/2023 20:23:33 2516995 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I think you are missing the point. What was the bidding price for starters?, and surely the logic of this argument is that all games will go behind a paywall? The whole point of a "national broadcaster" is that as a publicly funded, directly in case of RTÉ, entity that it caters to public demand. The public demand in this case is that they show a top level GAA match on each of the Saturday's in the three months they show our games in the first place. Surely not much to ask is it? They show all sorts of other stuff that few people could be bothered their ** paying into. And there is a place too for that in relation to minority sports like women's rugby, FAI and so on." At election time TV and radio stations have to give equal amounts of time to all parties. I wonder what's their breakdown of rugby soccer and GAA. Saynothing (Tyrone)** - Posts: 2150 - 15/12/2023 20:59:48 2516999 Link