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Clare, Limerick, Tipperary And Waterford Ruining Munster Football And All Ireland Championship?

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The fact is that the best championship in the country is in Ulster - which has no fixed element at all.
Leinster seeds qfinals, Munster seeds semi finals and Connacht has a partial fix of qfinals.

Generally, the best championship matches have been first round matches were the big guns draw each other.
A draw like that effects the way a Kerry/Galway/Dublin tailor their whole training programme."
Munster doesn't seed semifinals. And Meath v Dublin could've been a QF this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16768 - 16/07/2025 14:30:18    2626094

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The fact is that the best championship in the country is in Ulster - which has no fixed element at all.
Leinster seeds qfinals, Munster seeds semi finals and Connacht has a partial fix of qfinals.

Generally, the best championship matches have been first round matches were the big guns draw each other.
A draw like that effects the way a Kerry/Galway/Dublin tailor their whole training programme."
Exactly.

This is a terrible topic and completely self serving....

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4577 - 16/07/2025 15:13:37    2626103

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The way Limerick voted isn't pleasing alot of Limerick people, not sure why their CB did that -

Limerick players, management and GAA officials to meet after vote 'kick in the arse' - Limerick Live https://share.google/IwxMN3xLtLiP1H1b1

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16768 - 07/08/2025 18:08:49    2630465

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Replying To Fionn:  "Exactly.

This is a terrible topic and completely self serving...."
Kwrry beat pick of them either way it's not their fault pl bakme munster council and limerick evn for seeding it. I don't like it either doesn't matter most times every year kerry beat all of them anyway cork incljded

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 884 - 07/08/2025 23:00:25    2630487

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Replying To Canuck:  "A seeded draw is nothing short of cheating. Called an open draw but two teams not in the hat. If you want a shot at a Cork v Kerry final then you need to do a round robin."
Agree however also think mostly likely kerry and whoever not chance at minute would anyone beat them

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 884 - 07/08/2025 23:01:27    2630489

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Replying To Canuck:  "Limerick got to the final of the next highest level competition and acquitted themselves well. Where would that put them in the standings and why would they be denied the right to play in a Muster final just to give advantage to Kerry and Cork."
Advantage to kerry how exactly they beat cork semi final last year and most years blame munster council for the unfairness aside that kerry well ahead in munster

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 884 - 07/08/2025 23:02:46    2630490

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Replying To BaldyBadger:  "If Kerry played in Ulster throughout their history, they'd likely have more titles than less. You look at this through the last 35 years and say they'd have less titles. However, the previous 100 years before that, they'd have probably won 80 to 90 Ulster titles as it was by far the weakest province. It's easy to forget Cork had a proud Munster record for most of the c. 100 years before 2010, albeit Kerry did still win c. 2x fir every Cork win over that period."
Good analysis hate the ulster blowing uo competitive yes kerry may not have many but they wouldn't have 75 percent else that's nonsense from bitter monaghan man

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 884 - 07/08/2025 23:04:21    2630491

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "I have an idea. Put Kerry in the Ulster Championship and cut their titles by 75%."
Kerry entered an Ulster championship this year consisting of Cavan, Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal. Tough out! It was great!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9087 - 08/08/2025 09:58:50    2630509

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There are 6 teams in Munster, 5 in Connacht, 9 in Ulster and 10 in Leinster.

Mayo, Galway and Kerry are swimming in provincial titles.

A combined Munster/Connacht championship, with London placed into Ulster would really balance the provincials

Then only 6 spots would be reserved for provincial finalists - the other two for the div 1 league finalists.

A provincial championship with Kerry away to Galway/Mayo/Cork/Roscommon would get the championship firing nice and early.
Having to face Kerry every summer to win a provincial would force Mayo and Galway up a few notches and help them win the big one.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1553 - 08/08/2025 12:29:36    2630539

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Clare have beaten Waterford and Tipperary over the last two years to take the place of a higher league opponent. Down were denied an All Ireland place in 2024 and Offaly were denied an All Ireland place in 2025.
With provincial finalists currently qualifying for the All Ireland series, arguably all provinces should have their top 2 ranked counties on either side of their draw.
A few years ago Sligo beat London and New York to qualify for the All-Ireland. Meath lost out then on that occasion despite remaining in Division 2!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9087 - 08/08/2025 12:55:44    2630549

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