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Replying To StoreysTash: "Game has moved on from ruck ball? If you can't win the ball in a crowded part of the pitch you are at nothing.
The best teams win the dirty ball and get the ball in quickly to the forwards before opponents get set defensively.
Maybe it's just how it looks on TV but that is how I see it." Yes rucks are important and have to be won but skill and speed will win games
game plan cant be 100% around rucks and forgetting to put scores on the board
Pick a team that can win dirty ruck ball but allso with skill and speed and just let them play hurling
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Just 11 days to go until Newbridge lads. How are preparations going. How are the injuries to Jacko, Cian Molloy , Simon Donohoe, Shane Reck and Jippo coming along?
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 948 - 07/04/2026 10:02:01
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So the way forward for Wexford hurling is to largely ignore players and their ability based on what club they play for based on what division they're in!
Thats worked well for us, only took Liam Dunne years to undo that approach and set us up for some form of success so let's go back there!
There's plenty of lads hurling down the divisions every bit as good as those in divisions above, their teams just happen to suffer from having a tail on the team due to a lack of numbers etc compared to teams with bigger playing populations to call on.
I note for example at minor this year in the development league teams like Martins and Rathnure sit in division 3. Annes, Duffry and others in division 4 and 5. Division 3 has 3 out of 8 clubs combined teams. Should all thse be forgotten about and just look at division 1 and at a stretch division 2.
Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. We need all clubs producing and not just say unless you come from a certain club then dont bother. We've had enough of that for a long time in this county.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1637 - 07/04/2026 10:30:54
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Replying To tearintom: "So the way forward for Wexford hurling is to largely ignore players and their ability based on what club they play for based on what division they're in!
Thats worked well for us, only took Liam Dunne years to undo that approach and set us up for some form of success so let's go back there!
There's plenty of lads hurling down the divisions every bit as good as those in divisions above, their teams just happen to suffer from having a tail on the team due to a lack of numbers etc compared to teams with bigger playing populations to call on.
I note for example at minor this year in the development league teams like Martins and Rathnure sit in division 3. Annes, Duffry and others in division 4 and 5. Division 3 has 3 out of 8 clubs combined teams. Should all thse be forgotten about and just look at division 1 and at a stretch division 2.
Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. We need all clubs producing and not just say unless you come from a certain club then dont bother. We've had enough of that for a long time in this county." I don't know if you ever met Joe Kearns but his mantra is quite simple. It should be the ambition of every club to produce one county minor every year. If we all achieve that we'll be there or thereabouts.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4391 - 07/04/2026 10:41:07
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Replying To Bryson: "Oisin Moore has to start" One of the best players on the minor team 2 years ago as far as I was concerned. For some reason plenty on this forum disagreed with me at the time. Was a toss up in midfield between him and Young but Young has been really impressive this year when Ive seen him.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19073 - 07/04/2026 12:06:16
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Game has moved on from ruck ball? If you can't win the ball in a crowded part of the pitch you are at nothing.
The best teams win the dirty ball and get the ball in quickly to the forwards before opponents get set defensively.
Maybe it's just how it looks on TV but that is how I see it." Absolutely. U20 is the last development grade before the best lads hopefully make the step up to Senior. No point being a great stick man if you can't get the ball into your hand on account of lack of physicality.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19073 - 07/04/2026 12:08:20
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Replying To tearintom: "So the way forward for Wexford hurling is to largely ignore players and their ability based on what club they play for based on what division they're in!
Thats worked well for us, only took Liam Dunne years to undo that approach and set us up for some form of success so let's go back there!
There's plenty of lads hurling down the divisions every bit as good as those in divisions above, their teams just happen to suffer from having a tail on the team due to a lack of numbers etc compared to teams with bigger playing populations to call on.
I note for example at minor this year in the development league teams like Martins and Rathnure sit in division 3. Annes, Duffry and others in division 4 and 5. Division 3 has 3 out of 8 clubs combined teams. Should all thse be forgotten about and just look at division 1 and at a stretch division 2.
Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. We need all clubs producing and not just say unless you come from a certain club then dont bother. We've had enough of that for a long time in this county." Been banging that drum for years.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19073 - 07/04/2026 12:09:44
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Replying To Doylerwex: "I don't know if you ever met Joe Kearns but his mantra is quite simple. It should be the ambition of every club to produce one county minor every year. If we all achieve that we'll be there or thereabouts." Not sure clubs with smaller numbers are going to produce county minors every year. In Taghmons case some years you might have 2 or 3 at an underage grade good enough for county, then some years without any.
Agree though that would be an ideal situation ok Doyler.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19073 - 07/04/2026 12:11:59
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Replying To tearintom: "So the way forward for Wexford hurling is to largely ignore players and their ability based on what club they play for based on what division they're in!
Thats worked well for us, only took Liam Dunne years to undo that approach and set us up for some form of success so let's go back there!
There's plenty of lads hurling down the divisions every bit as good as those in divisions above, their teams just happen to suffer from having a tail on the team due to a lack of numbers etc compared to teams with bigger playing populations to call on.
I note for example at minor this year in the development league teams like Martins and Rathnure sit in division 3. Annes, Duffry and others in division 4 and 5. Division 3 has 3 out of 8 clubs combined teams. Should all thse be forgotten about and just look at division 1 and at a stretch division 2.
Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater here. We need all clubs producing and not just say unless you come from a certain club then dont bother. We've had enough of that for a long time in this county." The opposite can be looked at also - Oulart / Rathnure have had a couple of very good minor teams over the last 3/4 seasons .. They both played in a very high standard Premier U21 final at the end of last year .. But neither club had one on the starting 15 last weekend.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 293 - 07/04/2026 12:23:40
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Replying To MyOhMi: "The opposite can be looked at also - Oulart / Rathnure have had a couple of very good minor teams over the last 3/4 seasons .. They both played in a very high standard Premier U21 final at the end of last year .. But neither club had one on the starting 15 last weekend." You need a good group to have a good club minor or u21 team. You dont need any exceptional players.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19073 - 07/04/2026 12:40:31
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Replying To MyOhMi: "The opposite can be looked at also - Oulart / Rathnure have had a couple of very good minor teams over the last 3/4 seasons .. They both played in a very high standard Premier U21 final at the end of last year .. But neither club had one on the starting 15 last weekend." How many are still under 20?
Have has their training gone? Etc etc.
People say its easy to look good on a team playing down fhe divisions. Its also easy to look good on a team where everyone else on that team is playing at a high enough level and providing a platform for you.
I've seen players come from dominant clubs in to county set ups where they've been thr finishers and star men on the end of scores and get a wake up call when suddenly being outworked by another player from a clubs struggling more because that other players used to that graft of being the man who is carrying that team on his own. And ive seen plenty not like it or adjust to it also.
Its a crucial age group, fhe fall of between 16 and adult is huge. Life takes over, the carrot of playing county isnt the lure it once was, we need everyone, not just this club or that club. We've had enough of that, expand fhe reach of our playing pool, not contract it. Ability over eircode.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1637 - 07/04/2026 12:43:40
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