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Like I said earlier - This defeat won't sit well down your neck of the woods, at all, at all. Not sure Jack is getting the best out of this team. Far too slow and defensive at times. Still expected you to win yesterday, but Armagh were definitely the better team. As were Galway v Dublin. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3941 - 14/07/2024 14:32:38 2558971 Link 0 |
Funny how the Ulster folk love to pick and choose games to base their logic on.
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 14/07/2024 14:46:21 2558973 Link 1 |
Those awards matter, but are subjective, and tbh I sometimes feel as if his name precedes him. I remember one point he scored in the 22 final, second half, a free, a bit tricky, from a tight angle, but scorable too. He got it, and listening to McStay in commentary you'd be forgiven for thinking he cured world hunger. If Damien comer, or Peter Harte, or who ever you care to use as an example replicated his performances, I'm not sure they would have received back to back poty awards and 5 all star awards. Also, I've also already explained that it would probably be impossible to justify the hype he receives, in fairness to the lad. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 14/07/2024 15:17:29 2558978 Link 2 |
I don't blame them. Jack O'Connor has them playing awful dire stuff. Kerry are now one of the worst team to watch play. Armagh are a much better team to follow
Kew (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 14/07/2024 15:28:38 2558980 Link 3 |
You think he played well against Derry & Armagh?
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 402 - 14/07/2024 15:41:50 2558984 Link 0 |
Fair play
cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1684 - 14/07/2024 16:12:19 2558988 Link 0 |
You're picking two games as a way of backing up your point. What about Monaghan this year? Are they not an Ulster team? How about last year against Tyrone or Derry? Also funny how many Donegal fans have come out from under their rock in recent weeks. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 14/07/2024 16:24:22 2558990 Link 0 |
All those acolades you list there do justify someone asking the question why he is missing when it matters? Maybe its the ridiculous expectation, maybe its the team tactics. But none of those titles mean anything if in a crucial games he struggles to make an impact.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4932 - 14/07/2024 16:39:13 2558991 Link 1 |
I'm picking an All Ireland QF & Semi Final where the real knock out matches count . 2024
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 402 - 14/07/2024 16:54:07 2558999 Link 0 |
He was Man of the Match in the 2022. To pick a handful of off games to justify him being overhyped or whatever isn't the case. It was the same thing that was said for years about Colm Cooper. Yet plenty of other players have been overhyped without backing it up and nothing like the criticism Clifford has got.
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 14/07/2024 17:14:46 2559001 Link 0 |
You said Ulster teams. Are Monaghan no longer in Ulster?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 14/07/2024 17:15:23 2559002 Link 0 |
I wonder will Mickey Harte be Kerry's next manager. Jack L (None) - Posts: 3138 - 14/07/2024 18:52:41 2559045 Link 0 |
Motm is a crock of S***. It's a team/squad game.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3820 - 14/07/2024 19:16:47 2559059 Link 0 |
So why is it an issue if David Clifford doesn't have an individual good game? If it's only about the team? By your logic his display yesterday doesn't matter because Kerry as a team were poor. Or are you going to change your story with that? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 14/07/2024 19:24:47 2559063 Link 0 |
Remind us all where Kieran Donaghy is from?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 14/07/2024 19:27:28 2559066 Link 0 |
Unfortunately, the facts don't support this view.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 287 - 15/07/2024 14:51:30 2559308 Link 0 |
Agreed. Terrible stuff to watch. Feel sorry for the players who have to serve up this garbage style football.
Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 760 - 15/07/2024 16:17:08 2559334 Link 1 |
Dont be surprised if KD is back with Kerry in some capacity next season, especially if Armagh win on Sunday week.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3941 - 15/07/2024 16:23:00 2559336 Link 0 |
Kerry are a hard watch under o Connor, It is so structured it can't be fun to play, kerrys traditional kicking game has been abandoned for a slow ball carrying game, now you can't blame O'connor entirely for that as Fitz Maurice also abandoned it. Kerry are probably the best supported county in the country by people with no connection to the place at all, the amount of people I met wearing Kerry gear from different counties was mad, no other county has that,that Kerry team has no real identity, they should be looking to go back to what they do best Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1636 - 15/07/2024 16:38:19 2559344 Link 0 |
If Joe Brolly said it then it must be true.....
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7564 - 15/07/2024 20:36:49 2559391 Link 1 |