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Replying To sporto: "My money would be on a "homegrown" manager, like an Eoin Lennon or David McCague paired with a more experienced counterpart along the lines of a James McCartan type (previous managerial experience and was involved with Louth this year). Any word on who has the picking of it, usually a sub committee of 4 or 5 people given this task but no word on it." David McCague? You are joking I hope. Just think back to the 2022 Ulster Under 20 Championship team. Lads who 3 years earlier were Ulster Minor Champs. If you are going that direction at least give their Minor manager a thought.
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Replying To ORIELMAN85: "David McCague? You are joking I hope. Just think back to the 2022 Ulster Under 20 Championship team. Lads who 3 years earlier were Ulster Minor Champs. If you are going that direction at least give their Minor manager a thought." One of the worst Monaghan displays in the last 20 years was that night in Inniskeen. A team full of talent scoring 3 points at home in a game they were favourites to win. DMC shouting 'ball through the hands' incessantly when they were 6 points down in the middle of the 2nd half was enough. No thanks.
Not sure on McConville, very entertaining pundit but has he the resolve to do the work Monaghan need? I doubt it. Don't even know why Sherlock is being or has been mentioned.
Karl Lacey?
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1120 - 22/08/2024 17:55:37
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My preview for the weekend.
Killanny and Latton should be an interesting one this weekend. Killanny with a gutsy performance in the opening round saw them pip Donaghmoyne, while Latton in their last two games they have played have played well but have gave up two big leads. Can see Killanny taking the points here.
Ballybay and Cremartin - could be a sticky one for ballybay, cremartins first home senior championship game. They will be sure to have a big crowd.
Corduff and Aughnamullen should be a tasty one. If Corduff can keep 15 men on the pitch, they might have a chance.
The inform team of the championship Clontibret head to Martins Meadow, where Donaghmoyne are due a reaction after their disappointing opening game against Killanny. A point separating them in their last two championship meetings should lead to another close encounter.
monman246 (Monaghan) - Posts: 95 - 22/08/2024 22:42:13
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Replying To HB245: "My dream management ticket, out of all the ones that are somewhat realistic, would be John McEntee and Oisin McConville. Although, not sure how realistic it would be to get McConville. I'd say McEntee knows the Monaghan club scene better than the Armagh club scene at this rate, having been involved with either Clontibret/Inniskeen for 6 of the last 7 years I believe. McConville also would be familiar with loads of the Monaghan players from his time in DKIT and his time with Inniskeen." What has Oisin McConville achieved in management that puts him on the dream ticket for the Monaghan job? The Gary Neville of gaelic football. Two years with Armagh U20, put out in the first round of Ulster each year. 3 years with Inniskeen, couldn't get them to one final, John McEntee took them to two finals and won a league in his first year. The only thing McConville won with Wicklow was the wooden spoon final against Limerick in Division 3 this year. If talking rubbish on tv is the only qualification that a candidate needs to take our Senior job then we are in a worse place than I thought.
Monaghansclown (Monaghan) - Posts: 187 - 23/08/2024 13:36:04
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Replying To ORIELMAN85: "David McCague? You are joking I hope. Just think back to the 2022 Ulster Under 20 Championship team. Lads who 3 years earlier were Ulster Minor Champs. If you are going that direction at least give their Minor manager a thought." Not saying he would be my pick but could see them going down that way, a lot of Scotstown influence around these decisions.
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Replying To Monaghansclown: "What has Oisin McConville achieved in management that puts him on the dream ticket for the Monaghan job? The Gary Neville of gaelic football. Two years with Armagh U20, put out in the first round of Ulster each year. 3 years with Inniskeen, couldn't get them to one final, John McEntee took them to two finals and won a league in his first year. The only thing McConville won with Wicklow was the wooden spoon final against Limerick in Division 3 this year. If talking rubbish on tv is the only qualification that a candidate needs to take our Senior job then we are in a worse place than I thought." Firstly, you fail to mention the small factor that John McEntee has Tommy Durnin at his disposal. McConville never had that luxury when he was over them. Without Durnin, they're nowhere near a championship. That Inniskeen team were not ready to win championships when Oisin came in. Jones and Woods were 19/20 when he first had them. They didn't win a championship but the foundations were laid for when McEntee took over. In 2020, absolutely nobody recognised Inniskeen as a credible team. They knocked reigning champions Clontibret out and then lost an all time classic semi final vs Ballybay but lost after extra time. 4-19 to 1-26!
Secondly, you failed to mention anything from his stint at DKIT. DKIT have won two Trench cups in the history of the college, and McConville was manager for both.
His time at Wicklow has also been a success. He got them promotion from Division 4, although their squad was nowhere near good enough to survive Division 3, missing their goalkeeper Mark Jackson who is their best player for the entirety of the league. They then went on to beat Westmeath in the Leinster SFC before losing to Kildare by a point with the last kick of the game.
They then qualified from their group in the Tailteann Cup, beat Leitrim in the first knockout round before getting knocked out by the eventual winners, Down.
This is without even mentioning his time working with John McEntee over Crossmaglen when they won an Ulster Club together as managers.
His managerial CV is much more impressive when you take context into it.
HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 246 - 23/08/2024 14:52:06
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Replying To sporto: "Not saying he would be my pick but could see them going down that way, a lot of Scotstown influence around these decisions." Piggy backing a few handy country championships with a team that my granny could win it with hardly makes him qualified for the job…..
mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 530 - 23/08/2024 15:07:45
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The Irish Sun reporting that Owen Lennon, John McEntee and Enda McGinley are on the short list for the Monaghan job with Peter Dooley being apart of McEntee's proposed back room team.
monman91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 50 - 23/08/2024 15:55:30
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Replying To monman91: "The Irish Sun reporting that Owen Lennon, John McEntee and Enda McGinley are on the short list for the Monaghan job with Peter Dooley being apart of McEntee's proposed back room team." Dooley a sharp mind for any back room team! All fresh and good options.. all about the back room teams though
veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 640 - 23/08/2024 16:34:57
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Some win for killanny … championship ball is a different game!!!
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Replying To veterngaa: "Dooley a sharp mind for any back room team! All fresh and good options.. all about the back room teams though" Don't agree ..defensive minded coach..has more to learn ..
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Replying To barroboys: "Don't agree ..defensive minded coach..has more to learn .." Sure you boys wouldn't be anywhere without defensive tactics … some player back in the day
veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 640 - 24/08/2024 20:07:12
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Clontibrets good form continues. And killanny now could potentially make a quater final after a shock win over latton. Latton play donaghmoyne next who have been abject so far, alot at stake, plenty of needle heading into it as well.
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Group 2 of intermediate a very tough one to call, Blayney vs carrick in 3 weeks will be a big one
Monaghan37 (Monaghan) - Posts: 28 - 25/08/2024 16:19:53
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Another crazy weekend in the championships. Some big results mainly Killanny v Latton and Cremartin v Ballybay.
Cremartin got a draw against Ballybay which is a huge result for them. Ballybay I believe have a few injuries but still a huge result. Aughnamullen V Cremartin up next is a huge game in this group.
Corduff got a winner in the 35th minute. Massive result for them. Which leaves them in a good position. Scotstown more than likely to top that group but 2nd and 3rd is all to play for over the next few weeks.
Killanny shocked all odds by beating Latton by a point. What a result for the South siders. Goals win games is a proven fact. Saw them the week before against Clontibret and I don't think they would of scored 4 goals if they were still playing now in Clontibret. But credit where credit is due. Killanny is a tough place to go to win. So they are well in contention now for a quarter semi final. Not sure what is happening with Latton as I really fancied their chances after their league campaign.
Donaghmoyne caused some pressure at the weekend after Clontibret near lost an 8 point lead. Comfortably in the drivers seat at half time Clontibret were but coughed up 6 unanswered points in the second half which brought it back to 2 points. Thought Donaghmoyne was going to push on and get a result but it seemed Clontibreet turned a screw. Ended up winning by 10 points. Goals at the right times for them won it. Serious display of shooting by Clontibret. No player afraid to shoot. I think they scored 3-11 from play outa the 3-14. Leaves them the first team locked into a semi final position. Will give them time to get McManus back in maybe.
Doohamlet pulled off a serious comeback and won also beating Clones. A last minute penalty save by the doohamlet goalie saved them the 2 points. Barry McBennett has brought his fine county form to the club scene and is being very effective.
Looking like it will be a fight between Doohamlet and Maghercloone for the top spot here and Blayney and Truagh in the other group.
Alot of tight interesting games so far in the championship which is good to see. Anyone else their take on the games from the weekend?
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Replying To countymonaghan: "Another crazy weekend in the championships. Some big results mainly Killanny v Latton and Cremartin v Ballybay.
Cremartin got a draw against Ballybay which is a huge result for them. Ballybay I believe have a few injuries but still a huge result. Aughnamullen V Cremartin up next is a huge game in this group.
Corduff got a winner in the 35th minute. Massive result for them. Which leaves them in a good position. Scotstown more than likely to top that group but 2nd and 3rd is all to play for over the next few weeks.
Killanny shocked all odds by beating Latton by a point. What a result for the South siders. Goals win games is a proven fact. Saw them the week before against Clontibret and I don't think they would of scored 4 goals if they were still playing now in Clontibret. But credit where credit is due. Killanny is a tough place to go to win. So they are well in contention now for a quarter semi final. Not sure what is happening with Latton as I really fancied their chances after their league campaign.
Donaghmoyne caused some pressure at the weekend after Clontibret near lost an 8 point lead. Comfortably in the drivers seat at half time Clontibret were but coughed up 6 unanswered points in the second half which brought it back to 2 points. Thought Donaghmoyne was going to push on and get a result but it seemed Clontibreet turned a screw. Ended up winning by 10 points. Goals at the right times for them won it. Serious display of shooting by Clontibret. No player afraid to shoot. I think they scored 3-11 from play outa the 3-14. Leaves them the first team locked into a semi final position. Will give them time to get McManus back in maybe.
Doohamlet pulled off a serious comeback and won also beating Clones. A last minute penalty save by the doohamlet goalie saved them the 2 points. Barry McBennett has brought his fine county form to the club scene and is being very effective.
Looking like it will be a fight between Doohamlet and Maghercloone for the top spot here and Blayney and Truagh in the other group.
Alot of tight interesting games so far in the championship which is good to see. Anyone else their take on the games from the weekend?" Latton have poor management! That's the reason.
veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 640 - 26/08/2024 11:59:46
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Some big results over the weekend at ye club scene
Senior: Obvious one in senior is Kilanny getting a win over Latton, Cremartin getting a draw against Ballybay is encouraging for them also but they will need to get something against Scotstown to avoid the relegation play off. Clontibret look at the moment the only team to give Scotstown any trouble but the should be ok since they have no McManus.
Intermediate: Magheracloone done what was expected over blackhill with no Donnelly. Truagh and Carrick draw was probably a bad result for Blayney. Blayney going well could be dark horses no one gives them a chance. Doohamlet have done their job before they have Magheracloone for a semi spot, should be a good battle there.
Junior: big wins for Drumhowan and Toome over Rock and Aghabog, would be surprised if any team gives them a game, Sean's losing to Scotstown a bad loss, very hard looking at table how that group will finish.
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Replying To Wambamalam: "Some big results over the weekend at ye club scene
Senior: Obvious one in senior is Kilanny getting a win over Latton, Cremartin getting a draw against Ballybay is encouraging for them also but they will need to get something against Scotstown to avoid the relegation play off. Clontibret look at the moment the only team to give Scotstown any trouble but the should be ok since they have no McManus.
Intermediate: Magheracloone done what was expected over blackhill with no Donnelly. Truagh and Carrick draw was probably a bad result for Blayney. Blayney going well could be dark horses no one gives them a chance. Doohamlet have done their job before they have Magheracloone for a semi spot, should be a good battle there.
Junior: big wins for Drumhowan and Toome over Rock and Aghabog, would be surprised if any team gives them a game, Sean's losing to Scotstown a bad loss, very hard looking at table how that group will finish." Was at the blaney harps game on sat and it was atrocious stuff and that's being kind… if blaney are dark horses for intermediate it's not saying much for the rest of the teams… Senior is a dead duck, as I said previously my granny could manage scotstown to a championship and it won't change anytime soon… junior looks between toome and drumhowan with possibly eire og as an outside shot.. looks like aghabog have flopped in the champ again, could go up by way of toome doing the double.. god help the bog in intermediate next year if that happens….
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Replying To mick2007: "Was at the blaney harps game on sat and it was atrocious stuff and that's being kind… if blaney are dark horses for intermediate it's not saying much for the rest of the teams… Senior is a dead duck, as I said previously my granny could manage scotstown to a championship and it won't change anytime soon… junior looks between toome and drumhowan with possibly eire og as an outside shot.. looks like aghabog have flopped in the champ again, could go up by way of toome doing the double.. god help the bog in intermediate next year if that happens…." Yes it's very hard to see where Scotstown will have bother. For Blayney Beating Truagh and the harps are still big wins and they won't fear Carrick of Magheracloone, but intermediate is extremely hard to predict at the moment. I just wouldn't right them off doing a killanny.!! Yes bog not fit for intermediate just yet but are a young improving side, I heard last week they have not won a championship game since 2021.
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Replying To mick2007: "Was at the blaney harps game on sat and it was atrocious stuff and that's being kind… if blaney are dark horses for intermediate it's not saying much for the rest of the teams… Senior is a dead duck, as I said previously my granny could manage scotstown to a championship and it won't change anytime soon… junior looks between toome and drumhowan with possibly eire og as an outside shot.. looks like aghabog have flopped in the champ again, could go up by way of toome doing the double.. god help the bog in intermediate next year if that happens…." It would be the losing team in the championship final if Toome done a double to go up, Aghabog currently on course to meet Toome in a quarter final as it stands. Seans have to get something from their final game otherwise their season is over.
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