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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Ye , any1 can beat Moate"
I was at the game yesterday evening , my comment was on what i saw last night . I just thought on last nights performance they would struggel against the top Intermediate sides

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 279 - 22/09/2025 14:41:17    2637073

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Replying To Blackjack:  "It's a bad format really. Two teams still in it who lost 3 championship matches. Kinnegad 3rd place with 3 losses.
Shamrocks play Garrycastle next weekend.
Shamrocks win and they're through with 3 losses and Garrycastle would be out with 1 loss.
Hardly a fair system.
A team who loses 3 matches out of 5 shouldn't be able to come 3rd place really.
Hurling format was changed to prevent this happening where a team who lost 3 games were eliminated."
I haven't posted in quite a while but had to reply to Blackjack. The Westmeath group format would be the envy of many a county. It's probably not 100% to everyone's liking but counties such as Offaly would kill to have such a system in operation. The Biffos have come up with some ludicrous formats over the last number of years most of which involve little or no jeopardy in the group stages. Thus teams could theoretically keep their powder dry until the knockout stages. In Westmeath, the teams in the stronger group have a better chance of chance of playing knockout football compared to teams in the so called weaker group. But a team who hits form in the weaker group can have a run in knockout , the same as any other team. Take for example St Malachys who won the IFC a couple of years ago after coming out of the weaker group. There's talk that the county board wish to tinker with the format. If it ain't broke leave well enough alone.

kingfixer1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 4 - 22/09/2025 15:03:12    2637076

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No team who loses 3 matches should be allowed win a championship I think anyway. Everyone entitled to opinion.

Blackjack (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 22/09/2025 15:41:23    2637087

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Replying To Blackjack:  "No team who loses 3 matches should be allowed win a championship I think anyway. Everyone entitled to opinion."
Can you see a team that has lost 3 matches winning the championship ? I can't

coffey (Westmeath) - Posts: 29 - 22/09/2025 22:16:30    2637131

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Replying To Blackjack:  "No team who loses 3 matches should be allowed win a championship I think anyway. Everyone entitled to opinion."
Lomans lost two matches and drew one against Athlone, and they're straight into a semi-final. What's your opinion on Lomans if they win a title?

Fighting-Cocks69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 85 - 22/09/2025 22:20:00    2637133

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Replying To Fighting-Cocks69:  "Lomans lost two matches and drew one against Athlone, and they're straight into a semi-final. What's your opinion on Lomans if they win a title?"
Lomans won the last 2 championships without losing a championship match.
If they win the 3 in a row they'll be seen as an even better team but with 8 championship wins since 2013, realistically they've nothing to prove.
Realistically they're the bench mark and standard bearers for Westmeath football in the past 12 years.
The next target for Lomans is a Leinster title after being very close to reaching a final the last 2 years.

Blackjack (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 23/09/2025 08:39:47    2637146

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Replying To coffey:  "Can you see a team that has lost 3 matches winning the championship ? I can't"
Nothing is impossible. Kinnegad and Shamrocks will both believe they can win it and both could be in a semi final after this weekend.
I'm of the view that a team that loses twice should be eliminated but I'd reluctantly accept a team who loses 2 championship matches having a third chance.
I definitely think a team should not be given a 4th chance after losing 3 games.
Croke Park changed the inter county format this year cause it was seen to be extremely boring that a team who lost 3 games were still in the championship.
I guarantee you if you said to any club manager this year before a ball was thrown in that if they lost 60% of their 5 group games they'd be eliminated, there would be no objections at all to that.

Blackjack (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 23/09/2025 08:45:18    2637148

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Replying To Fighting-Cocks69:  "Lomans lost two matches and drew one against Athlone, and they're straight into a semi-final. What's your opinion on Lomans if they win a title?"
If Loman's win the title then fully deserve to. Carping about losing two matches when they're in their fifteenth successive semi final. In other competitions teams win despite losing lots of matches. Real Madrid won champions league titles despite losing 2-3 matches.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2357 - 23/09/2025 10:14:04    2637160

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Replying To Blackjack:  "No team who loses 3 matches should be allowed win a championship I think anyway. Everyone entitled to opinion."
Our championship format keeps every team engaged from start to finish, with promotion and relegation ensuring no game is meaningless. Group A provides top-level clashes while Group B offers teams a real pathway to prove themselves in the knockouts. The tier system creates excitement, as every team has something to fight for, whether it's championships, survival, or just getting to the knockouts. Stronger teams get rewarded with more knockout spots, while underdogs still have the chance to upset and climb the ladder.

Even in Group A, if a team lost three games and still went on to win the championship, this only shows how competitive and balanced the championship is anyone can win if they peak at the right time. The structure guarantees fresh matchups each year, keeping the competition fair, dynamic, and exciting.

Best format in the country. No need to change it.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 576 - 23/09/2025 10:17:26    2637162

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Replying To Temple56:  "Our championship format keeps every team engaged from start to finish, with promotion and relegation ensuring no game is meaningless. Group A provides top-level clashes while Group B offers teams a real pathway to prove themselves in the knockouts. The tier system creates excitement, as every team has something to fight for, whether it's championships, survival, or just getting to the knockouts. Stronger teams get rewarded with more knockout spots, while underdogs still have the chance to upset and climb the ladder.

Even in Group A, if a team lost three games and still went on to win the championship, this only shows how competitive and balanced the championship is anyone can win if they peak at the right time. The structure guarantees fresh matchups each year, keeping the competition fair, dynamic, and exciting.

Best format in the country. No need to change it."
Fully agree with this comment. The championship structure is very fair and makes for competitive games throughout. It also gives teams who get promoted a fair chance to adjust to the new level. Anybody trying to compare points numbers from Division A and B in either Senior or Intermediate are either not tuned in to the difference in standards or being disingenuous due to their current club situation.

FinallyTheRock (Westmeath) - Posts: 25 - 23/09/2025 13:14:12    2637182

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I Hear Kilbeggan are lodging appeal on being relegated, anyone have any knowledge of this? A lot of the games were one sided, the Downs in second gear won well against shamrocks who are very limited i think Garrycastle may get the upper hand in that quarter. Kinnegad win was on the cards, Athlone have been bluffers for some time now, they will be near relegation over the next 4-6 years where does Eoin Jordan go from here. Caulry beating Moate not a surprise much more experienced team, Moate were poor and played poorly in other games. Killucan unlucky to miss out and i think Tang will do what nobody thought and they will stay up as Malachys probably have an eye on hurling final.
In Intermediate Tubberclair were far superior and should have won by another 5/6 points there defence just locked down shandonagh who looked to have a full team bar 1 or 2 but everybody missing 1 or 2. Milltown are probably moving very well in the background and coming under radar a bit. Multy got a big win but rosemount very understrength throughout the year missing key players. Castledaly did what they had to do to beat a poor Maryland team whos future doesnt look too bright even though 1-2 goof minors due to arrive next year. Result of the weekend for me Finea beating MTP, i know MTP were through but still they had most there full team bar a couple playing and you dont want to be losing games going into a quarter where Multy will through everything at it.
Kinnegad to win
Garrycastle to win
Miltown by 2
Multy by 1

PowellJohn3 (Westmeath) - Posts: 87 - 23/09/2025 13:54:31    2637188

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Replying To FinallyTheRock:  "Fully agree with this comment. The championship structure is very fair and makes for competitive games throughout. It also gives teams who get promoted a fair chance to adjust to the new level. Anybody trying to compare points numbers from Division A and B in either Senior or Intermediate are either not tuned in to the difference in standards or being disingenuous due to their current club situation."
Definitely no need to change Senior or Intermediate. Junior 1 might change for next year depending on how many sole Junior clubs are left and it might suit them better too

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 344 - 23/09/2025 13:55:37    2637189

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Replying To Darragh:  "Definitely no need to change Senior or Intermediate. Junior 1 might change for next year depending on how many sole Junior clubs are left and it might suit them better too"
Agree with everything you say there about championship structures. The one that does need a change is junior 2, it was a shambles of a competition last year with teams pulling out. this year the group stages finished after round 3 and all of those players have been without football since and I believe the final for it is played last out of all the competitions. I'm not sure what structure would work for it due to number of teams entered varies but a change of some sort needs to be looked at

Tailteannchamps (Westmeath) - Posts: 47 - 23/09/2025 16:39:19    2637210

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Predictions for this weekend

Senior:
Shamrocks vs Garrycastle - Shamrocks to edge it by 3 or 4 points.

Coralstown/Kinnegad vs Caulry - Repeat of 2023 semi final. Probably a repeat outcome too. Coralstown/Kinnegad to win.

Tang vs St. Malachy's - Tang to win

Intermediate:
Milltown vs Castledaly - Milltown to win.
Multyfarnham vs Milltownpass - hardest match to call this weekend. Multyfarnham might just edge it.

Blackjack (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 24/09/2025 12:11:19    2637290

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Replying To Blackjack:  "Lomans won the last 2 championships without losing a championship match.
If they win the 3 in a row they'll be seen as an even better team but with 8 championship wins since 2013, realistically they've nothing to prove.
Realistically they're the bench mark and standard bearers for Westmeath football in the past 12 years.
The next target for Lomans is a Leinster title after being very close to reaching a final the last 2 years."
I don't see them achieving this, as they are a little short of where they were in their pomp. Still a good team but with no O' Toole and some key players not getting any younger, the odds on a Leinster title are lengthening in my opinion.

Iarmhisamhi (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 24/09/2025 13:06:51    2637298

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Replying To Blackjack:  "Predictions for this weekend

Senior:
Shamrocks vs Garrycastle - Shamrocks to edge it by 3 or 4 points.

Coralstown/Kinnegad vs Caulry - Repeat of 2023 semi final. Probably a repeat outcome too. Coralstown/Kinnegad to win.

Tang vs St. Malachy's - Tang to win

Intermediate:
Milltown vs Castledaly - Milltown to win.
Multyfarnham vs Milltownpass - hardest match to call this weekend. Multyfarnham might just edge it."
I've a sneaky feeling the two section B teams could get wins here. Neither Kinnegad or Shamrocks have flattered to deceive in this championship and both of their form has been patchy. Garrycastle will be disappointed to end the group losing to Tang and would have liked to keep the momentum going into the quarter final but Tang were going to be up for it in a must win game. There was a lot of talk Garrycastle wanted to avenge Tang for relegating them two years ago so I wouldn't say it was for the lack of them trying to win but their earlier games especially against St Malachys in Moate they blew them out of the water in the first half showing how dangerous they are when they run at teams. Caulry have been going about their business efficiently and for all the slagging they get here they won't fear Kinnegad. Kinnegad though have come good in last couple of games when their backs were against the wall. They will be two close games I feel.

Relegation final will be a battle. Massive win for Tang last week to give themselves a chance and Malachys have been disappointing since beating Tang in their first match. Form goes out window in a one off match like that.

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 270 - 24/09/2025 13:35:57    2637302

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Predictions for this weekend

Senior:
Shamrocks vs Garrycastle - Will be a tight match slightly favouring Garrycastle, they know how to win these type of games

Coralstown/Kinnegad vs Caulry - Depends what CK team shows up, if they go all out with a high tempo game then I expect them to win by 5 or 6 points. A tight defensive game will suit Caulry. Just think CK will get the job done.

Tang vs St. Malachy's - On the evidence of last weekend Tang will have all the momentum and I would expect them to come through on this.

Intermediate:
Milltown vs Castledaly - Milltown are timing their run well, easy win for Milltown
Multyfarnham vs Milltownpass - Wallace Vs Kelly that will decide this one, just think Milltownpass have more big players and will come through this after a very close battle.

FrMick (Westmeath) - Posts: 13 - 24/09/2025 14:15:16    2637312

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Haha yous all doubted Caulry.
Those who criticised Flanagan look silly now
Caulry will best Kinnegad trust me.
iarmhi Abu is quiet tonight haha"
Oh Glory to Mount Temple
And we flaunt our colours bravely
We're cheering for our heroes
Who wear the famous red of Caulry
We're cheering loud for McCormack
The roving county goalie
Who scored ten points a game
And won the Flanagan trophy

For Maguire on the front foot
With Luke Loughlin in his pocket
For the ever durable Damien
And the gallant Clinton boys
For Grennan and Shortall
Who kept The Downs at bay
And showed Martin and Lynam
How the Temple men can play

For Tiarnan the terrier
Whose latest kick got there
And also for Connolly
Unbeaten in the air
And then a cheer for Senan
With roots to County Clare
He kicked a late two pointer
That left Caulry with one to spare

We shan't not forget young Tadhg
The younger Baker brother
Our All Ireland winning captain
Charlie Drumm to shudder
And Murphy and Malynn
Who each has helped to play
Caulry the Westmeath kings
Crowned on a historic day

Hurrah for Pat Flanagan
Who showed our boys the way
Cake Curran and all the greats
Who placed them in the fray
And also for our sponsors
Who keep Caulry's colours high
And we'll not forget the mighty feat
In October of twenty five

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 214 - 24/09/2025 17:57:50    2637335

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Replying To Iarmhisamhi:  "I don't see them achieving this, as they are a little short of where they were in their pomp. Still a good team but with no O' Toole and some key players not getting any younger, the odds on a Leinster title are lengthening in my opinion."
Nevermind the Leinster title, the odds of St Loman's winning the County title are lengthening because pundits are predicting Caulry to win it. I fear for this Kinnegad team, will they give Caulry the walk over? They haven't showed up in the Championship anyway.

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 214 - 24/09/2025 18:16:57    2637336

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Senior Predictions

Shamrocks by 3: form's good, theyll to edge it.
Coralstown/Kinnegad by 5 - if they open up, they'll have too much.
Tang by 2 :graft and momentum should carry them through.

Intermediate Predictions

Milltown by 6 - timing their run perfectly.
Milltownpass by 2 - Kelly's goals to shade Wallace's points.

Leftboothaey (Westmeath) - Posts: 41 - 24/09/2025 21:06:45    2637345

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