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Replying To Kickitout: "Galway were very average in most of there championship matches this year I was at all but one London one there best performance was definitely the Armagh match in Sligo , in 5 years Galway management have failed to find inside forwards it's almost always being the same 3 lads and having a bench loaded with defenders makes no sense obviously they had no faith in Tommo or o conaghaile when Finnerty went off brining on a wing forward made zero sense bringing on o flaherty at wing forward made less sense and then bringing him on in wring wing even though he got on ball he was on his wrong side I think with 15 mins left bring him on for Mulkerrins and he be attacking down that side snd I think he definitely have got a score cutting in on his right foot , all year management made in my opinion crazy positional decisions, it started in league v mayo Niall Daly full forward off after 19 mins Connacht final Molloy and Sweeney wing forwards both taken off Kelly wing forward 2 matches take. Off Hernon wing forward v Westmeath taken off Mcdaid full forward taken off why they do these daft things is a mystery and no inside forwards on squad thar they trusted is a failure after 5 years and not sure Joyce will change his ways now" The Connacht Final selection worked extremely well, I thought. Always does, when you win!! The selection of Molloy and possibly Sweeney was only a plan imo to limit the game time for Walsh and Tierney coming off injury. Our substitutions that day were well timed, and worked a treat, and one could argue that the initial team selection was perfect from that perspective.
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just seen Comer brothers have submitted plans for Mountain South.Modern training facility in middle of GAA stronghold.Well done to GAA HQ for biggest own goal.Galway United saw opening and grabbed it.Cant blame them.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 368 - 01/08/2024 11:12:40
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Replying To Kickitout: "Galway were very average in most of there championship matches this year I was at all but one London one there best performance was definitely the Armagh match in Sligo , in 5 years Galway management have failed to find inside forwards it's almost always being the same 3 lads and having a bench loaded with defenders makes no sense obviously they had no faith in Tommo or o conaghaile when Finnerty went off brining on a wing forward made zero sense bringing on o flaherty at wing forward made less sense and then bringing him on in wring wing even though he got on ball he was on his wrong side I think with 15 mins left bring him on for Mulkerrins and he be attacking down that side snd I think he definitely have got a score cutting in on his right foot , all year management made in my opinion crazy positional decisions, it started in league v mayo Niall Daly full forward off after 19 mins Connacht final Molloy and Sweeney wing forwards both taken off Kelly wing forward 2 matches take. Off Hernon wing forward v Westmeath taken off Mcdaid full forward taken off why they do these daft things is a mystery and no inside forwards on squad thar they trusted is a failure after 5 years and not sure Joyce will change his ways now" Galway have got to two All Ireland finals in 3 years after not getting there in 21 years.
Tomo clearly not got the legs in him to last and O'Conghaile as a 20 year old wasn't trusted to come on, in hindsight he'll probably regret not trying O'Conghaile but that could easily have backfired too.
Its obvious where the issues are with the squad but your post has no perspective, none of our 3 best scoring forwards were 100% fit which is very unlucky.
TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 286 - 01/08/2024 11:19:10
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Replying To TheBishop: "Galway have got to two All Ireland finals in 3 years after not getting there in 21 years.
Tomo clearly not got the legs in him to last and O'Conghaile as a 20 year old wasn't trusted to come on, in hindsight he'll probably regret not trying O'Conghaile but that could easily have backfired too.
Its obvious where the issues are with the squad but your post has no perspective, none of our 3 best scoring forwards were 100% fit which is very unlucky." Not sure how u think my post not relative why is bench full of defenders and still only one came on as a defender Molloy and o flaherty brough on in forwards and they have being putting backs in forwards most of year I take ur point about comer , Walsh but with they being injured for most of campaign they had plenty time find inside forwards they will have 2 now ,, how Rory Cunningham not on thar squad is baffling I suppose the fact he can score and he a forward prob came against him , he still highest individual score for galway this year v division 1 teams from play 1-03 v Monaghan ,,
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 950 - 01/08/2024 11:34:10
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Replying To Kickitout: "Not sure how u think my post not relative why is bench full of defenders and still only one came on as a defender Molloy and o flaherty brough on in forwards and they have being putting backs in forwards most of year I take ur point about comer , Walsh but with they being injured for most of campaign they had plenty time find inside forwards they will have 2 now ,, how Rory Cunningham not on thar squad is baffling I suppose the fact he can score and he a forward prob came against him , he still highest individual score for galway this year v division 1 teams from play 1-03 v Monaghan ,," O'Conghaile, McCabe & O'Curraoin are still only 20, as for Cunninham's 1-03 Monaghan were dreadful and the game was wide open which is something that didn't happen in big championship games.
O'Conghaile & O'Curraoin got plenty of game time during the league, O'Curraoin did the better of the 2 but didn't get a sniff come the championship.
Your post is over critical, losing Finnerty after 5 minutes is very lucky when you consider our 2 star forwards were not 100% fit either.
TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 286 - 01/08/2024 11:45:45
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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "just seen Comer brothers have submitted plans for Mountain South.Modern training facility in middle of GAA stronghold.Well done to GAA HQ for biggest own goal.Galway United saw opening and grabbed it.Cant blame them." Best of luck to them. It should be an impressive facility. Where Galway United are currently scoring an own goal with a lot of supporters and families of young sportsmen and women across the county, however, is in having their development outfit, Galway Town, impose no play or highly restrictive rules (on lads in particular) that want to play Gaelic Football and Hurling at their clubs and at county development level. There's a lot of talk about it and it's ticking people off. They're effectively trying to own the young talented players, limiting them from playing other sports that they love, while filling them with talk or professional careers that in almost all cases turns out to be nonsense and don't materialise. Every Galway Town kids parents or guardians has had thoughts that their Johnny might end up playing in Old Trafford or Anfield. The stats suggest otherwise. If you're to look at the English FA alone, there are over 1.5 million registered youths / juvenile soccer players in England. Let's say approximately 50,000 - 70,000 reach an age every year where they're most likely to be signed up by top professional clubs, only 25 players approx every year make the breakthrough to play even just a few mins of premier league soccer. 25! Even adding in Championship, League One and League Two sides in England, the numbers making professional careers there are minuscule. There's the Irish and other leagues of course, but the elite level throughput is still tiny. Preventing 50 or 60 young lads of a given age from playing GAA, while chasing largely false promises is frankly ridiculous. Galway United should embrace its diaspora and allow kids to be kids and enjoy the flexibility of playing other sports that they love with the friends and teams they've grown up with. Their support base will grow if they do.
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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "just seen Comer brothers have submitted plans for Mountain South.Modern training facility in middle of GAA stronghold.Well done to GAA HQ for biggest own goal.Galway United saw opening and grabbed it.Cant blame them." Why don't Galway GAA ask Comers/Galway Utd, can they access it. Also Connacht rugby getting new stand and training facilities. Galway GAA should ask to use it too if possible.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2565 - 01/08/2024 12:05:25
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Replying To Kickitout: "Galway were very average in most of there championship matches this year I was at all but one London one there best performance was definitely the Armagh match in Sligo , in 5 years Galway management have failed to find inside forwards it's almost always being the same 3 lads and having a bench loaded with defenders makes no sense obviously they had no faith in Tommo or o conaghaile when Finnerty went off brining on a wing forward made zero sense bringing on o flaherty at wing forward made less sense and then bringing him on in wring wing even though he got on ball he was on his wrong side I think with 15 mins left bring him on for Mulkerrins and he be attacking down that side snd I think he definitely have got a score cutting in on his right foot , all year management made in my opinion crazy positional decisions, it started in league v mayo Niall Daly full forward off after 19 mins Connacht final Molloy and Sweeney wing forwards both taken off Kelly wing forward 2 matches take. Off Hernon wing forward v Westmeath taken off Mcdaid full forward taken off why they do these daft things is a mystery and no inside forwards on squad thar they trusted is a failure after 5 years and not sure Joyce will change his ways now" Good post with a bit of realism. Galway an average or slightly above average side benefited from a below average year of football were some of the top teams didn't perform.
Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 01/08/2024 12:19:37
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Replying To togoutlads: "Best of luck to them. It should be an impressive facility. Where Galway United are currently scoring an own goal with a lot of supporters and families of young sportsmen and women across the county, however, is in having their development outfit, Galway Town, impose no play or highly restrictive rules (on lads in particular) that want to play Gaelic Football and Hurling at their clubs and at county development level. There's a lot of talk about it and it's ticking people off. They're effectively trying to own the young talented players, limiting them from playing other sports that they love, while filling them with talk or professional careers that in almost all cases turns out to be nonsense and don't materialise. Every Galway Town kids parents or guardians has had thoughts that their Johnny might end up playing in Old Trafford or Anfield. The stats suggest otherwise. If you're to look at the English FA alone, there are over 1.5 million registered youths / juvenile soccer players in England. Let's say approximately 50,000 - 70,000 reach an age every year where they're most likely to be signed up by top professional clubs, only 25 players approx every year make the breakthrough to play even just a few mins of premier league soccer. 25! Even adding in Championship, League One and League Two sides in England, the numbers making professional careers there are minuscule. There's the Irish and other leagues of course, but the elite level throughput is still tiny. Preventing 50 or 60 young lads of a given age from playing GAA, while chasing largely false promises is frankly ridiculous. Galway United should embrace its diaspora and allow kids to be kids and enjoy the flexibility of playing other sports that they love with the friends and teams they've grown up with. Their support base will grow if they do." Galway United and Galway Town are not the same... Galway town is the Galway FA.
Galway United and the Galway FA are also not the same entity.
Galway United pay the Galway FA to use their ground - ED Park.
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Replying To galwayford: "Why don't Galway GAA ask Comers/Galway Utd, can they access it. Also Connacht rugby getting new stand and training facilities. Galway GAA should ask to use it too if possible." In an ideal world that would happen but highly unlikely.Comers are soccer and bringing Athenry hockey in as their community group.Connacht Rugby will use their facilities for their academys.It is a massive kick in teeth for Galway GAA.
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 368 - 01/08/2024 12:25:45
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Replying To yew_tree: "Galway are just as defensive as Armagh at times. It's the way the game has gone. Genuine question, did the pressure get to ye? Galway seemed certain of a win. Ollie Turner said before the game he couldn't see any scenario where by Galway we're going to lose and then said "Armagh have lost the plot" when they left the parade early….
I myself felt Galway were going to win but the closer it got the more it felt like pre our final v Tyrone. We just thought it was going to happen. That said if Galway had their shooting boots on they probably would have won. Armagh thought to their credit took their chance." Galway like a lot of teams play a defensive game to give them the best chance of competing. It nearly got them an All Ireland this year and the defensive side of the game worked well for Armagh and got them over the line along with the stronger overall panel they have.
I guess Joyce doesnt risk changing it up much because he recognises that outside Shane Walsh (who is on the decline) and some of the fellas around the middle they don't have an awful lot. Its much more risky to play an open game and be relying on all your top players to perform at their peak, than to play the defensive game and ensure you're at least competitive.
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Replying To Bdonegal1991: "Galway like a lot of teams play a defensive game to give them the best chance of competing. It nearly got them an All Ireland this year and the defensive side of the game worked well for Armagh and got them over the line along with the stronger overall panel they have.
I guess Joyce doesnt risk changing it up much because he recognises that outside Shane Walsh (who is on the decline) and some of the fellas around the middle they don't have an awful lot. Its much more risky to play an open game and be relying on all your top players to perform at their peak, than to play the defensive game and ensure you're at least competitive." Dubious enough commentary to speak definitively regarding 'stronger overall panel' after a 1point scrape over a team that missed 7or8 scoreable 'placed balls/marks' and 3 'hawkeyes', with Armagh themselves only missing 0-3 approx ? in 'sitters'.
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Replying To Bdonegal1991: "Good post with a bit of realism. Galway an average or slightly above average side benefited from a below average year of football were some of the top teams didn't perform." They reached the final on merit, beating good sides en route. The reality is that on any given year most sides are average; only for the past 10/15 years have Dublin been an exceptional team, with Mayo also being very good and competitive in that time. If you're implying that Galway are a flash-in-the-pan then I can't agree. Even more so than Armagh, they've been building consistency for the past 3 seasons at least and well have the scope to push on again next year.
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Replying To Kickitout: "Galway were very average in most of there championship matches this year I was at all but one London one there best performance was definitely the Armagh match in Sligo , in 5 years Galway management have failed to find inside forwards it's almost always being the same 3 lads and having a bench loaded with defenders makes no sense obviously they had no faith in Tommo or o conaghaile when Finnerty went off brining on a wing forward made zero sense bringing on o flaherty at wing forward made less sense and then bringing him on in wring wing even though he got on ball he was on his wrong side I think with 15 mins left bring him on for Mulkerrins and he be attacking down that side snd I think he definitely have got a score cutting in on his right foot , all year management made in my opinion crazy positional decisions, it started in league v mayo Niall Daly full forward off after 19 mins Connacht final Molloy and Sweeney wing forwards both taken off Kelly wing forward 2 matches take. Off Hernon wing forward v Westmeath taken off Mcdaid full forward taken off why they do these daft things is a mystery and no inside forwards on squad thar they trusted is a failure after 5 years and not sure Joyce will change his ways now" What are you raving about - Galway management gave pretty much every inside forward a chance - Tomo, O Conghaile, O Curraoin, Cunningham, McCabe. Ultimately our three best are Walsh, Comer and Finnerty which is one of the best in the country all be in Walsh and Comer have under-performed. They can only play the cards they are dealt. They were forced into most decisions due to injury.
hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 417 - 01/08/2024 13:24:06
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Replying To Kickitout: "Galway were very average in most of there championship matches this year I was at all but one London one there best performance was definitely the Armagh match in Sligo , in 5 years Galway management have failed to find inside forwards it's almost always being the same 3 lads and having a bench loaded with defenders makes no sense obviously they had no faith in Tommo or o conaghaile when Finnerty went off brining on a wing forward made zero sense bringing on o flaherty at wing forward made less sense and then bringing him on in wring wing even though he got on ball he was on his wrong side I think with 15 mins left bring him on for Mulkerrins and he be attacking down that side snd I think he definitely have got a score cutting in on his right foot , all year management made in my opinion crazy positional decisions, it started in league v mayo Niall Daly full forward off after 19 mins Connacht final Molloy and Sweeney wing forwards both taken off Kelly wing forward 2 matches take. Off Hernon wing forward v Westmeath taken off Mcdaid full forward taken off why they do these daft things is a mystery and no inside forwards on squad thar they trusted is a failure after 5 years and not sure Joyce will change his ways now" You could say the same about Armagh. Rubbish against Down. Squeezed through. Lost Ulster final to Donegal. Were on course to being well beaten by Galway until they were gifted a quick 1-1. Got past Roscommon. Would have lost to Kerry had Tom O'Sullivan not missed 2 good goal chances. Would have lost to Galway had Galway not had a bad day shooting both from frees and play. Any side that wins an All-Ireland usually has a bit of luck along the way. Galway could easily have lost to Roscommon in 98 on the first Connacht final day out.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2288 - 01/08/2024 13:38:12
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The so called Donegal poster is a wind up merchant from the Mayo blog, don't waste your energy entertaining them.
TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 286 - 01/08/2024 13:50:26
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Replying To Triffic: "They reached the final on merit, beating good sides en route. The reality is that on any given year most sides are average; only for the past 10/15 years have Dublin been an exceptional team, with Mayo also being very good and competitive in that time. If you're implying that Galway are a flash-in-the-pan then I can't agree. Even more so than Armagh, they've been building consistency for the past 3 seasons at least and well have the scope to push on again next year." They did and I'm not saying Galway are a flash in the pan at all, they have been very consistent the last few years.
I think you hit the nail on the head, on a given day most or a lot of sides can be average. Galway and Armagh are two of the sides capable of performing above the average on occassion and they got a couple of those performaces this year which put them in the position they were.
I would say neither played great in the final, Armagh would have been just as unhappy as Galway if they lost, particularly with there second half performance.
Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 01/08/2024 15:00:39
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Replying To Alwaysencourage: "In an ideal world that would happen but highly unlikely.Comers are soccer and bringing Athenry hockey in as their community group.Connacht Rugby will use their facilities for their academys.It is a massive kick in teeth for Galway GAA." If we had any sort of joined up thinking, the GAA, soccer and rugby should have one large multi-sport stadium in the city, and a multi use training ground somewhere in the county.
Everyone's too busy guarding their own patch to give an inch to anyone else.
Ciaran359 (Galway) - Posts: 16 - 01/08/2024 15:04:11
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Dubious enough commentary to speak definitively regarding 'stronger overall panel' after a 1point scrape over a team that missed 7or8 scoreable 'placed balls/marks' and 3 'hawkeyes', with Armagh themselves only missing 0-3 approx ? in 'sitters'." Well that's my opinion, Armagh have a slightly stronger overall panel but Galway have a slightly stronger first 15. Galway probably have more 'stars' in there team.
There very closely matched teams despite what the Galway crowd think.
My opinion would tend to be backed up by the pattern of the games between them over the last couple of years, Galway start well and get ahead then Armagh use there strenght in depth to come back into the game.
Bdonegal1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 88 - 01/08/2024 15:07:28
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Replying To Bdonegal1991: "Good post with a bit of realism. Galway an average or slightly above average side benefited from a below average year of football were some of the top teams didn't perform." Boring
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