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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Robbie Brennan would be a good shout.

I hear Jason Sherlock is looking for a county managers role. He has experience with both Dessie and Jim Gavin so he has first hand experience of preparing the very best team in the country to win all irelands. He knows the standards that have to be met. We definitely should consider him even if it would be a hard pill to swallow having a Dub in charge but look where Louth are going under Ger Brennan as an example."
Not mad about Sherlock as the main man at all. Could be a possible coach however.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 15/08/2024 10:29:00    2565204

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Robbie Brennan would be a good shout.

I hear Jason Sherlock is looking for a county managers role. He has experience with both Dessie and Jim Gavin so he has first hand experience of preparing the very best team in the country to win all irelands. He knows the standards that have to be met. We definitely should consider him even if it would be a hard pill to swallow having a Dub in charge but look where Louth are going under Ger Brennan as an example."
A dub managing meath?! Have ye lost your marbles?!

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1807 - 15/08/2024 13:06:13    2565246

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It's getting ridiculous thata decision still has to be made on O Rourke.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 553 - 15/08/2024 13:10:46    2565248

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Good to see posters looking outside the County. Especially for candidates with a track record of success.
Louth were smart to pick Ger Brennan who had UCD gaa on his cv with sigerson success.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 553 - 15/08/2024 13:14:21    2565251

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Replying To Ashrules:  "It's getting ridiculous thata decision still has to be made on O Rourke."
Agreed. The players have let their feelings be known, his two coaches have left after two other coaches left the year before. If the management review suggested a change of management surely COR has been informed of that and hasn't decided to leave. He's hardly going to find out this Thursday when the rest of us find out

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 15/08/2024 13:44:25    2565262

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James Horan would be a good pick.

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 15/08/2024 13:57:35    2565270

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Replying To Ashrules:  "Good to see posters looking outside the County. Especially for candidates with a track record of success.
Louth were smart to pick Ger Brennan who had UCD gaa on his cv with sigerson success."
If position were to become available there is no harm looking outside county, however, this is no shortcut to success as we have witnessed with many counties who have chosen this route. For every Louth there is a Kildare or Derry. Is there a top coach looking at Meath squad and thinking " this is a group with great potential" ? So far evidence does not back this up. Will we settle for someone who is just on the market and looking for a job ? For me it comes down to the players, do they want change and if so what exactly are they seeking?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 15/08/2024 14:17:12    2565273

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Replying To bert09:  "A dub managing meath?! Have ye lost your marbles?!"
Maybe a few but not as many marbles as Meath have lost games to Dublin over the last 20 years.

Seriously. We have to go after All Ireland winners in the modern era and the majority are in Dublin which is right on our doorstep. To settle for anything less than that is just setting ourselves up for mediocrity. At this point I don't care if they are Dubs. Our rivalry with them is effectively dead at this point anyway so why get hung up about it at this stage.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 464 - 15/08/2024 15:27:51    2565284

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Not a slight on Gillespie but with Meath club football as it is I wouldn't appoint through that route unless a a manger hit unprecedented success.
If COR is gone it took almost 10 weeks to reach that obvious decision. And it's looking unlikely we'll have a successor in place for another 10 weeks. Last year Donegal has McGuinness in by August, you need that buzz so county level players can focus on sticking to the gym etc during club season.
Personally, I'd either go with O'Bric if he had clear, ambitious demands on backroom or would leave leave O'Bric at underage for the moment and bring in a Ger Brennan style figure. Someone hungry to make a mark and tuned into who are the brightest minds in the game. You could blow budget on a big name who is past their best days or think smart and get an up and comer. Canvass the Sigerson lads, the senior players, the likes of Brian Farrell coaching in Dublin. Who is setting up their team differently? Getting the most from players? Overperforming? Whether it's Sigerson or County or Club, we need to be thinking of the next big thing, not someone who's best days are behind them. It's a big pity this search, if it is indeed happening, is happening so late in the day.

MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 15/08/2024 17:00:20    2565305

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Really hope Cathal Obric gets it. He just ticks all the boxes for me. The only outsiders I'd prefer would be either James Horan or Eamon Fitz (I understand these probably wouldn't take a job outside their own county)

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 15/08/2024 19:22:42    2565328

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "James Horan would be a good pick."
Absolutely agree, not sure if he'd take a job outside of Mayo but he would be my choice of the outsiders.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 15/08/2024 20:29:30    2565334

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"This review remains ongoing and will be concluded in advance of the Co. Committee meeting on Tuesday August 27"

We're odds on to be relegated in 2025.

MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 15/08/2024 22:34:07    2565353

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The announcement or lack thereof is absolutely pathetic. Pushed back until the 27th of August. It'll be 10 and a half weeks since we got knocked out by then. 2 rounds of club championship will be finished (that's half the club championship for a lot of teams). 3 years ago we got knocked out of the championship on the 18th July, 12 weeks later the management review suggested the manager be gotten rid of. What the hell is going on at the top of Meath GAA. What could possibly change between now and 12 days time that 2 years of evidence, a players survey and then another 9 weeks couldn't have told you. Sums it up, an acceptance of poor standards. Make a bloody decision and back your judgement

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 15/08/2024 22:45:46    2565355

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Looks like new backroom team under O'Rourke will be in place and an announcement and confirmation by then. Let that be it and move on with this. Change was needed and looks like change will be happening. Let O'Rourke lead it and try and remedy the wrongs with fresh setup.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 15/08/2024 23:36:53    2565362

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Colm o Rourke got and deserved great respect.But the chance to step down with dignity is slipping away.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 553 - 16/08/2024 00:46:21    2565370

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Seeing it accepted as fact that the player's responses were scathing about management. Just curious where this leaked? Not seeing a word of it anywhere aside from people claiming it's definitely true!

MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 16/08/2024 07:25:52    2565375

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So the update is .... there is no update. Can you imagine how this looks to any potential outsider from the outside looking in? Surely somebody involved in the country board must be saying that this delay is not acceptable. Surely?

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 353 - 16/08/2024 07:58:05    2565377

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Looks like new backroom team under O'Rourke will be in place and an announcement and confirmation by then. Let that be it and move on with this. Change was needed and looks like change will be happening. Let O'Rourke lead it and try and remedy the wrongs with fresh setup."
He has tried with 2 coaching tickets already...only one common demoninator here...

Ed2010 (Meath) - Posts: 109 - 16/08/2024 08:23:58    2565385

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The review was completed so to say in a statement that it is not is misleading and its buying time for someone Is the county board waiting to see if COR will resign. The problem for the County board is if they get rid of COR and his backroom team you are getting rid of Sean Boylan, Trevor Giles, Bray Callaghan all of which was honoured in Croke Park only two weeks ago plus Bray etc. Have you ever been at a County board meeting? COR will have his stench club delegates supporting him regardless ( isn't this part of the problem) so the County committee will have to put their recommendation to the delegates and id not be sure that they would get the support from the floor to get rid of COR. Cast back to when half the County Board wanted McEntee out, they lost that vote. We are now in a worse situation and with the bickering with the county executive in full swing and the ongoing power struggle Id nearly bet that they are trying to buy more time in the hope that it doesn't go to a vote.

Or is COR going to blame his backroom team? Well according to reports Bray Callaghan is gone, Well he brought them in so why give him another chance or is it the case that the County board should be the one's to go. Either way another mess in the long list of messes in Meath GAA.

Nothingbutthetruth (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 16/08/2024 08:42:02    2565388

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Obviously what is going on is O'Rourke is staying and they are just giving him more time to get the backroom team set up. Can't see how they will be making a change now with it being so late in the day. Lots of top coaches such as Lar Wall out there in Meath. If O'Rourke wants to make any sort of decent fist of this job, he needs to get these coaches in place and let them coach and step back himself. He should count himself blessed to still have the job and should do whatever it takes to get it right.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 16/08/2024 08:58:49    2565391

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