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Would like to see the teams that lined out last night, hate it when they only post the scorers.

Steve_K (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 25/10/2023 18:05:55    2510318

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Replying To latouche25:  "I don't understand this competition. How have we lads from Rathkenny, Moynalvy and Dunsaughlin playing in it. two senior teams and one just promoted to senior"
I agree with the substance of your post. But I would permit either Rathkenny or Moynalvey players to play but not both. County Board must decide which can play. During 2023 Rathkenny were Intermediate so I would permit their players for this year BUT not next year.
As regards Dunshaughlin players, they should not be permitted to compete, with the exception of players who due to several reasons did not actually play in the Senior Championship this year. The same should apply for all other Senior Clubs.
Of course in an ideal world those teams should be competing in the actual Senior Championship and I can eventually see this happening in the future when the powers that be at county board/committee really evaluate the Kerry system and that clubs do likewise and mandate delegates to vote as per the decisions of the clubs concerned.
In reality the numbers are there to carry a motion at convention as the combined votes of Intermediate and Junior clubs could outvote the Senior clubs and the County Committee Officers entitled to vote. I would expect that the County Committee votes could actually split in either direction.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 25/10/2023 18:23:38    2510321

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Replying To latouche25:  "I don't understand this competition. How have we lads from Rathkenny, Moynalvy and Dunsaughlin playing in it. two senior teams and one just promoted to senior"
Looks like the Tara region were boosted with a couple of Dunshaughlin lads (possibly COR wanted a look at them too) given they are down to 3 clubs as they are short Kilbride players who are playing Leinster champo and Paul's are unlikely to contribute players at the required level.

Rathkenny also busy with Leinster so Moynalvey took their place to keep that region balanced too

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 25/10/2023 18:50:40    2510323

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Replying To latouche25:  "I don't understand this competition. How have we lads from Rathkenny, Moynalvy and Dunsaughlin playing in it. two senior teams and one just promoted to senior"
Also lads from Dunboyne playing
Anyone know the criteria to play in it??

Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 25/10/2023 20:55:42    2510335

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Moynalvey has replaced Rathkenny and the criteria as passed at the last county board meeting was

that only Junior and Intermediate club players to be involved. U19 players can only play when there club exits the u19 championship, Very clear and very simple but yet senior players and u19 lads playing. Was at a the game last night and only a few were at it.

Another example of the football committee favouring the big clubs and allowing the senior lads play and leave 9 lads on the bench who were eligible.

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 26/10/2023 11:37:11    2510394

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Replying To Awaywin:  "Also lads from Dunboyne playing
Anyone know the criteria to play in it??"
Rathkenny were meant to be with Boyne valley but are now in the Leinster intermediate championship because they won Meath so have been replaced with moynalvey who were relegated from the sfc. Word is that O'Rourke wanted a look at Sean ryan from dunboyne as he was in America this summer and is undecided on him and Luke mitchell was injured for the majority of championship so wants a better look at him aswell and Ciaran mccarrick is another who orourke wants to see more of before he decides to bring him into the Meath panel.

Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 26/10/2023 11:38:09    2510395

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Replying To Islander21:  "Are you suggesting that the senior championship be reduced to 8 club and 8 regional teams otlr increased to 24 teams. I think ypu can onlh have 16 team in senior as per gaa rules."
I personally think we should have 2 senior championships. One where you have the top 8 senior clubs and 8 regions, and then one normal senior championship structured similar to how it is now. Very similar to the Kerry set up.

That structure puts the country team in a much better place, because everyone in the county has the potential to be exposed to a higher level of competition. You get to see more players playing at a higher level, and ultimately playing senior football. This can only help player development.

The problem with it now is the regional championship doesn't really serve a purpose, maybe it's Meath trials of sorts, but the issue with it is the best players from the clubs aren't represented. Whether it be because it clashes with U19 competitions, teams in Leinster, or some players just want a break after a long season.

The idea behind it is good and they've gone all out with the jerseys, team names and all that type of things. But it has the potential to be much better than it is.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 254 - 26/10/2023 12:03:54    2510408

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The Navan region versus Duleek region last night could be the final. Two strong teams.

Gaelic_Games (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 26/10/2023 15:06:22    2510483

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Very hard to gauge the standard given no competitive games against senior opposition. Would all the regional teams even be able to win an intermediate or even a junior championship? I don't know the answer to this question?"
Senior championship in meath is not a great standard, all regional teams would be competitive

Utdroyal (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 26/10/2023 21:52:28    2510551

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Replying To Utdroyal:  "Senior championship in meath is not a great standard, all regional teams would be competitive"
Id agree. A team with the best of Rathkenny (including Keoghan and K Curtis), Walterstown, Bective and Slane only just won the competition last year so the suggestion regions wouldnt be successful in the Junior or Inter champos is a bit off.

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 27/10/2023 10:01:59    2510579

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Replying To Belt:  "Id agree. A team with the best of Rathkenny (including Keoghan and K Curtis), Walterstown, Bective and Slane only just won the competition last year so the suggestion regions wouldnt be successful in the Junior or Inter champos is a bit off."
Assuming Rathkenny lads not involved as they aren't yet are they? Perhaps this team you alluded at full strength but is that actually true? From what I heard the fare was of poor standard in general the other nights.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 27/10/2023 10:44:00    2510596

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Replying To Belt:  "Id agree. A team with the best of Rathkenny (including Keoghan and K Curtis), Walterstown, Bective and Slane only just won the competition last year so the suggestion regions wouldnt be successful in the Junior or Inter champos is a bit off."
Anyone who trys to say these games are equal or better than the standard than Senior club football are just not being realistic. These games are glorified trial/challenge games. One region even needs a few players from Senior clubs to bring up the standard. The stakes are high in club games, whereas there is no pressure in these games.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 27/10/2023 11:22:48    2510604

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Anyone who trys to say these games are equal or better than the standard than Senior club football are just not being realistic. These games are glorified trial/challenge games. One region even needs a few players from Senior clubs to bring up the standard. The stakes are high in club games, whereas there is no pressure in these games."
The players certainly don't look at or treat them as challenge matches. I've played in them, I know what the standard is like. The point I was coming back at was for anyone to suggest the regions wouldn't compete at the upper end of Inter is nonsense.

Rathkenny are Inter champs, their best players plus best of Walterstown, Bective and Slane only just about won the Regional champ last year

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 27/10/2023 13:47:01    2510624

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Replying To Belt:  "Looks like the Tara region were boosted with a couple of Dunshaughlin lads (possibly COR wanted a look at them too) given they are down to 3 clubs as they are short Kilbride players who are playing Leinster champo and Paul's are unlikely to contribute players at the required level.

Rathkenny also busy with Leinster so Moynalvey took their place to keep that region balanced too"
I don't honestly think this competition can be called a championship if the ground keeps shifting and "possibly COR wanted to look at them too" which I doubt. A team in a championship simply cannot include ineligible players.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 27/10/2023 14:16:08    2510631

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Anyone who trys to say these games are equal or better than the standard than Senior club football are just not being realistic. These games are glorified trial/challenge games. One region even needs a few players from Senior clubs to bring up the standard. The stakes are high in club games, whereas there is no pressure in these games."
This is more of a result of the structure and timing. Of course its a glorified challenge match in its current format. But if a bit of effort and planning was put into some kind of meaningful competition, you would get competitiveness.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 254 - 27/10/2023 14:16:23    2510632

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Anyone who trys to say these games are equal or better than the standard than Senior club football are just not being realistic. These games are glorified trial/challenge games. One region even needs a few players from Senior clubs to bring up the standard. The stakes are high in club games, whereas there is no pressure in these games."
Agreed. Late October/November games under lights with little or no spectators. U19s ineligible while many more players opted out plus you have players away in college and guys busy with work commitments will think twice about involving themselves at this time of year. Fair play for lads getting involved and showing a bit of interest but don't think it's much more than a novelty for some players.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 27/10/2023 19:47:31    2510693

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No linesmen no umpires. That will tell you what county board thinks of competition. Teams having to pay for physios, etc. Little or no planning.

Meathooooo (Meath) - Posts: 94 - 28/10/2023 20:33:35    2510765

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Why are these glorified friendlies getting more coverage than some/most club championship matches got in Meath this year? The standard is being exaggerated and not all players who are eligible to play are making themselves available, which says a lot.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 30/10/2023 12:58:21    2510936

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Caught a game last week and was well worth going to. Was a nice night in fairness and the football was good, with plenty of attacking play. The managers have been told that it is not to be defensive football, so that players can be judged on merit.
A lot of people went to see the games last year as it was novel, and the double headers in Dunganny drew a crowd. A different format for fixtures this year but no one sided games so far, so the balance of teams is working.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 479 - 31/10/2023 15:00:37    2511063

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I got to two games last week and I must say the standard was way down on last year and really poor. While games were tight and competitive, I don't think any of the teams would win the intermediate . Seems to be many players unavailable. No doubt teams will gel with time and improve but not a great start.

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 31/10/2023 15:50:39    2511074

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