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How many division 1 teams did we beat in Andy's six years at the helm remind me again? "We must change at the end of year". You really don't have a clue do you.... Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 584 - 19/06/2023 21:19:21 2487628 Link 20 |
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People arguing are we better in TC or main competition, I'd hold judgement until its over. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1402 - 19/06/2023 22:44:16 2487648 Link 0 |
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Whether we win or lose, it's a lot better than the last few years, out of championship early. At least now the lads are playing championship football in the Summer and the new players get a chance to settle in with games almost every week. Although it might be a bit of a comedown, I can see no negatives to us taking part in this years Tailteann cup and who knows we might even win it and that would guarantee Sam Maguire next year. Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 20/06/2023 12:59:22 2487787 Link 6 |
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How many div 4 teams did we play under Andy. ?
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/06/2023 13:08:14 2487792 Link 1 |
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It's a hard one. For me and the vast majority of fans it can only be viewed satisfactorily if we win it, as it guarantees all ire football next year. It's the "you only improve playing the best teams" thing. I'll try to post a link to an interview with Sligo manager and one of the players who said the experience of playing top teams will be a huge factor in next years league. My worry and I'm sure everyone's real worry is what good will hammering Wexford do against Armagh Kildare a rejuvenated Donegal Cork louth next year. ? If they beat us then it can be said with confidence this year was a very bad one, not that some will admit it, it will be described as gobblydegook and new fangled ideas that have nothing to do with football. But sure there you go.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/06/2023 13:17:19 2487799 Link 1 |
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Not much of a comedown from previous years, we got to super 8s a few years back and hope was high that playing the top ranked sides would stand to us the following years, in truth it seemed to have oppisite effect and we never recovered from experience. We relied too heavily on our best 15 and did not have the panel for a sustained run. TC is not the place to be, however its plain to see we are now building what looks like a decent group going forward, so it is suiting us in short term and I expect to see the positives next spring. Who gets more out of this summer, Louth,Sligo getting thought harsh lessons or Meath getting a chance to rebuild and regain confidence? Its all about opinions, but the former did not work out to well last time, so hopefully better long term result this time. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 20/06/2023 14:15:35 2487832 Link 12 |
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You're such a bluffer, would you ever stop with the vast majority stuff, you've been proven multiple times to be talking bull squirt. Trying to talk about being a majority voice when your voice is contrary to almost everyone who's on here. Just state things as your opinion and leave it at that. That's what everyone here does. Only improve playing the better teams, how well has that serviced Meath under McEntee and O'Dowd. Bar beating Kildare in 2020 when have we beaten a team at a similar or higher standard than us. I'll wait… cos I'm pretty sure it was Kildare in 2012.. 2010 is the last time we beat a team of a higher standard v Dublin. Sligo… are you joking, they got to Sam beating London and New York…. Most teams could've done that Lost by 14 to Galway Drew with Kildare Lost by 10 to Roscommon Lost by 24 to Dublin How's that benefiting them… they were in Sam due to the draw in Connacht. Otherwise they'd have been out early in Tailteann and no one would be talking about them. Let's see how they do in division 3 next year v Clare, Limerick, Down and Antrim The reason many seem to be okay with being in the Tailteann is it's allowed us to rebuild, blood young lads, develop lots of systems and get some confidence into them. Playing at Sam level this year would've been no benefit and we'd learn nothing about these new lads, other than get hammerings v top teams. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That's what unfortunately happened Meath under Andy McEntee. He did his best but we have gone backwards since 2019. Talking about next years league, what's the point, it's 7 months away. Louth will be seriously dented after some results, Donegal are fragile, Cork are inconsistent, Kildare are inconsistent. God knows who'll be in charge of those teams next year and what might change. Meath will be under Colm and his team for a second year under, who've shown they can adapt. Worry about those things then. This year was always about building. Next year will be too and there will be dark days then too. And there will be if your new hero Cathal O'Bric gets the job. Your self imposed targets that no one else is privy too aren't how the team and county board are being judged or will be judged. We've to bridge the gap a game at a time. From what I read from this forum, most people are willing to allow the team to develop and grow gradually. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 20/06/2023 14:54:09 2487854 Link 18 |
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We'll said Seadog54
brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 20/06/2023 14:56:02 2487857 Link 5 |
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I like you to post the teams that improved by getting hammered by better teams . I will put any money that Sligo will not improve one bit from the hammerings they received this year . At any level of football or any competitive sport playing superior teams and getting hammered has more of a negative affect on teams especially young teams . You have continued to post this myth the best way for teams to improve and gain confidence is to win games against teams of similar ability . Meath didn't improve one bit from playing div 1 and the super 8s they went backwards because they have 0 confidence after all the beatings. Derry came from div 4 Armagh from Div 3 Westmeath won the Tailtean Cup Louth came from Div 4 Cork from Div 3 all these teams have improve from winning games so again I ask you to post the teams that recently have improved by loosing games . mmc (Meath) - Posts: 281 - 20/06/2023 17:27:08 2487908 Link 19 |
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I rewatched the Wexford game highlights. They were so loose I wouldn't read much in it. We had acres of space upfront to look for the goals. At the very least, Antrim wont do that if Andy is going to do anything, i would expect that. LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 464 - 20/06/2023 17:51:27 2487918 Link 0 |
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Excellent post! Looking forward to an insightful response..
royalproxy (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 20/06/2023 18:22:15 2487931 Link 2 |
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Worst team I have seen in a long long time.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/06/2023 18:43:58 2487947 Link 0 |
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Colm orourke has always said a team will only improve if they playing better teams. 1 thing I agree with him on. Now unless he knows nothing is that what you are suggesting??
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/06/2023 18:45:26 2487949 Link 0 |
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Of course it's a comedown. And I don't think these posters or perhaps just one or two really believe this is a good thing if we don't win it. Also someone said about still playing championship football in June ? We were doing that last number of years too. As it's now become known as the tiddlywinks cup , the only way to have any benefit is to win it. With cathal now confirmed for u20s next year we may be stuck with current set up for another year. Let's hope by the time he takes over we are still in div 2 royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/06/2023 18:58:45 2487954 Link 0 |
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A big part of sport is mental, hopefully winning will be positive in that aspect although so many of the games lacking competitiveness is a negative. For me the main thing I'd be thinking about is how this year will set us up in developing what is a young team. For division 4 Sligo being in the main competition is a high point, they wouldn't have expected it so I'm not surprised their players/ managers embracing it (makes you question the competition structure that they got into the main competition by virtue of beating New York and London). bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1402 - 20/06/2023 22:56:58 2487985 Link 0 |
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100%. And Derry are the case in point. After a humiliation against Dublin in Croke Park, they suffered 3 relegations in a row. Built up slowly racking up wins while blooding players against your Waterford and your Wexfords. Tailteann Cup, as I stated at start of year is the best thing for these players to develop. Utter nonsense to say they'd improve by getting hammered versus Dublin and Kerry.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 21/06/2023 08:15:43 2488008 Link 11 |
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As I said name me 1 team that has improved getting hammered by better teams I'll even allow you name q club team . Ask Colm after the Tailtean Cup did the competition improve the team and I've no doubt of the answer . We may not like been in it it but I've no doubt that playing in the Tailtean Cup this year was way more beneficial that getting 3 beatings in the other competition . After all you dud name a number of teams that were better than us before the Tailtean Cup started and Antrim were one of them !! mmc (Meath) - Posts: 281 - 21/06/2023 08:29:39 2488012 Link 15 |
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He asked you to name the teams that have improved? Can you do that like a good lad? I would love to know. royalproxy (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 21/06/2023 08:32:06 2488013 Link 5 |
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Careful now… you can't be asking for correct answers from dunners….. or you'll be told 1) the incorrect answers 2) you've multiple accounts 3) the vast majority of people agree with RD 4) you're a keyboard warrior 5) a nameless faceless bully, who RD stands up to 6) come see me at a game…. 7) that you're stalking him on social media…. 8) I'll pull up your previous posts saying you said such and such…. Is that all of the lines that get trotted out or are there some other pearlers out there If Colm O'Rourke came out at the start of the year and said I hope we land in the Tailteann cup imagine the uproar and calls for his removal. Of course they're going to say you only improve playing better teams because their aim is the highest possible competition they can play in. It's psychology 101. Otherwise there's no point in them going out on the pitch. Sure doesn't the lad convince himself before every game Meath will win and Hon the royal and the rest of it, having his snack box and telling everyone where he's going. The lad can't answer a proper question cos he's knows he'll show himself up. He simply reminds me of that old saying a college professor told me, empty cans make the most cans… brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 21/06/2023 10:06:43 2488036 Link 17 |
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You forgot… 'I was talking to a lad who said x y and z. I've no reason to believe it's not true…so it's FACT Empty vessels do indeed make the most noise!! royalproxy (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 21/06/2023 11:04:46 2488065 Link 6 |