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I agree for the most part but don't agree there's not much COR can do about it. The look like a poorly coached team lacking any real structure or defensively and at times offensively and any real plan in general. That is definitely something he can rectify Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 18/03/2023 18:16:39 2464520 Link 3 |
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Give over . Recovery mission. ? Ffs. We have gone backwards at an alarming rate. We would now struggle to be the 5th best team in Leinster behind Dublin louth Westmeath and probably Kildare (we will find that out next week). So less with the recovery nonsense. He took over a mid table team. We are now division 3 quality. And unless he improves his management then after next year someone will have to come in and take over a team in a hell of worse state than the one Colm took over. Honestly to say anything else is living in fantasy land. Flynn prime example kicks a 45 for a point. Next one we get we bring up keeper. I mean wtaf ? Not to mention we are less fit, and to add to that , that was the worst Dublin team we played since 2010. We are becoming a laughing stock and an embarrassment to the county. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 18:24:05 2464521 Link 2 |
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Definitely. I mean let's be honest the book stops with management. And I think the cb will have to answer questions too at this stage. Was there not better candidates? Colm was one of the greatest players I have ever seen, along with pat spillane. Pat tried his hand at coaching it didn't work out for him. Let's hope for all our sakes this is not a carbon copy of that.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 18:27:21 2464522 Link 0 |
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Finally I agree with dunners ! Its a shambles
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1176 - 18/03/2023 18:45:20 2464528 Link 4 |
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In Andy McEntees first year we wereabsolutely humiliated by kildare in both league and championship. We also lost to Longford in the championship, andhada few ritual humiliations from the Dubs. But we gave him six years, some people on here seem to think Rourke should go after 6 games atta (Meath) - Posts: 704 - 18/03/2023 19:09:08 2464532 Link 11 |
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Show me one person that said that ?
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 19:19:53 2464536 Link 1 |
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We are a basket case, after the first ten minutes even Conor Lane took pity on us out there today. Says it all. Every other team in the division kept Dublin honest. I hope we creep into Sam because we would be seriously embarrassed in the Tailtean Cup, that's my opinion we are 10 to 15 years out of date. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 18/03/2023 19:30:02 2464543 Link 2 |
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Yeah. My biggest fear in tailteann would be we would draw Antrim. How embarrassing would that be ?
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 19:44:15 2464547 Link 1 |
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Becoming ? Nah in fairness look, Dublin are nowhere near the levels required to compete for Sam at the minute so Meaths inability to compete against them out there today iss worrying. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 18/03/2023 19:53:31 2464548 Link 8 |
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Ahh look. I don't know what to say. I'm absolutely devastated by that performance or lack of. We looked super unfit, we can't kick a score , no one to kick a free. we have no game plan apart from one that was gave up by every other county 20 years ago. What's worse is it doesn't seem to bother some of the players or the sideline. Every other county at least put it up to a Dublin team in serious decline, we appeared to wave the white flag from the throw in. I had half expected us to get beat, but I wanted to see some signs of improvement, ie a game plan. We had none. Dublin players constantly looking uo , we kept running into tackles, let's be honest Dublin hardly broke a sweat. I don't know where we go from here, but behind me in the stand today there was 5 dubs back room team taking notes and talking to I presume Farrell on a earphone, everything was analysed and relayed, while Colm stood with arms folded looking bemused that we were getting our asses whipped. Talk is cheep, actions speak louder than words. I don't know what else to say, we were humiliated by a Dublin team that are a shadow of themselves and we made them look good. Where do we go from here ? I don't know, Kildare game is a must win going into championship and to avoid a immediate loss in tailteann if we play like we have last few games, yes we will lose every game in Sam but it at least gives management time to learn before next year. Final thing we went man to man with cork it worked they were caught cold, we went man to man v clare, goals won it for us in a game we probably should have lost, we went man to man v Derry (unbelievably ) we got hammered, v louth we went man to man and got beat, we went man to man v Limerick and we're lucky to get a draw agains a terrible team who already had decided to sack their manager, we went man to man against Dublin and got beat. Someone once said the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 20:07:08 2464554 Link 1 |
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Give the man a couple of years, there was no Dublin or Derrys( All Ireland candidates) in Division 2 during Andy's tenure. We are not at that standard. Man down against Louth for majority of match. Limerick match was disappointing. I question whether you are real supporter or just a critic of Colm?
Harnan6 (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 18/03/2023 20:08:02 2464555 Link 9 |
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Hard to disagree. I made a joke in jest earlier on the forum this year that COR must think he has taken over the Meath juniors. Maybe he does think that! It's probably re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic but he probably should have more Ratoath, Summerhill, Kells and Dunboyne lads on the panel, they are the best clubs (along with WTs) of a poor enough senior championship. Junior and intermediate level in Meath is even far worse again. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 18/03/2023 20:08:04 2464556 Link 3 |
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The loss to Longford was his second year but I understand your point on the need for patience. I hope some people that were destroying Andy McEntee realise how big the challenge was/is now. The level of player in the county across all adult levels is a mile off the top counties and has been for some time. Dublin are way way off their levels from the 6 in a row team, we got them at home and we still couldn't even make it a game. I don't even know where you'd start to fix the weaknesses. The difference in size and physicality was so stark. Every contest or where the ball went into contact we came off second best. Been a reality check since the Clare game.
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 18/03/2023 20:20:20 2464563 Link 2 |
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Let me tell you lad. I have gone to every Meath senior game With exception of 6 games since 1984. Including flying in from London for matches and flying back out in the early 90s I go to every obc league and championship games. And guess what, I don't even live in county anymore so a home game is a 100km round trip for me. So don't you dare question my support for the county. You want to be an excuse for management then fair play. But let me be very clear Colm has to take the responsibility for that disaster today and against Limerick and Derry and louth the man down thing won't wash. I wish him every success. But his report card so far reads MUST TRY HARDER royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 20:25:53 2464565 Link 3 |
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Also all ire standard ? Derry not Dublin have a hope of an all ire. Btw we had mayo and Galway in andys time. Now they are all ire standard
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 20:32:58 2464567 Link 0 |
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I don't see anyone Saying he should go so don't be ridiculous. Of course he should be given time and of course people need to be realistic because of the standard of player that is available in the county but even at this early stage of his tenure there is some red flags for me. We are coming up on what must be 10 or so competitive games along with whatever challenges the team has played and while we shouldn't expect everything to be perfect in my opinion after probably over a dozen games under this management we should be seeing signs of what the plan is... Some signs of a defensive set up and structure... Signs of an overall general game plan.. I do not and have not seen it in any of the games in fact as the league has gone on we are looking more and more disorganised and more and more like the team is just playing off the cuff. I totally accept it takes time for a new management to put in place their ideas and philosophy to the players and it would take time to get it down to a tee so that they players are excuting it properly on the pitch but I don't accept they after probably 15 games you would see pretty much zero evidence of what they are trying to do. I am seriously concerned. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 18/03/2023 20:36:29 2464569 Link 1 |
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First half tatics were a bit off the wall, looks like players were told stick with you man, go where he goes, which played into Dublins hand, retreated into their own half, brought us with them and then picked us off at their ease. Their half became way to congested and we got turned over way to easily. The kind of high press we attempt to play just leaves us way to open and a rethink on this is essential. Very few intercounty players on view today, midfield were ok, Jones showed no lack of effort, Hickey, Costello and one or two more gave it their best, Lynch in fairness brought badly need skill and effort, other than that it was the usuall no show against the Dubs. If we are to improve it has to start with defence and defending as a unit. We have been stumbling along now for years, looking worse year after year. You would expect players coming into panel to have the basic skills and develop from there, however, does not apprear to be the case. Management need to step back and develop a system that suits this group, defence has to be at the heart of it. Difficult to believe we will attempt to play the high press/man on man for championship.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 18/03/2023 20:38:25 2464571 Link 4 |
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Colm O' has made a lot of the regional championship and the players he got to see and the players he got from it. Big mistake was not including Senior club players. They didn't get a chance to impress so there are probably better players out there. Diego (Meath) - Posts: 1205 - 18/03/2023 20:38:47 2464572 Link 1 |
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Ok here's the thing I'm here watching Kerry v Roscommon, now apart from having a couple of outstanding forwards Roscommon players would not have the same appetite or advantage as Meath players. They are laying down their lives, fighting for everything tackling and playing out of their skins for the jersey. When is the last time a Meath team played like that ? And why not? I mean Kerry man for man are far superior to them but they giving it everything for their county and manager. Why can't Meath do the same ? Yea they will more than likely get beat by a genuine all ire contender but at least they putting it up to them. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 20:41:24 2464573 Link 1 |
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6 matches in to a management and you have decided he is not up to it! This is not premier league, let's give a bit of time and see how Colm does. For me I don't think players are there for us to compete against the top teams. FYI, a supporter is someone who supports a team ( players and management) in good and bad times. Harnan6 (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 18/03/2023 20:42:47 2464575 Link 5 |