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Replying To nobull456: "Agreed ! i would just add that it is apparent that confidence is severly lacking in the team The recurring faults freetaking fielding, goalkeeping, slow build up to attack,and forwards unwilling to take responibility for shooting for a score underline the confidence issue as lacking confidece is clearly the common denominator. Targeted coaching to help balls skills and mental skills seems poor. I dont know about atmosphere at training. Is encouragement a key tool. Is the culture of continuous improvement the TOP objective.." Was there a lack of confidence against Kildare?? A team who have gotten the better of us recently. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/05/2021 21:34:50 2339658 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Agreed ! i would just add that it is apparent that confidence is severly lacking in the team The recurring faults freetaking fielding, goalkeeping, slow build up to attack,and forwards unwilling to take responibility for shooting for a score underline the confidence issue as lacking confidece is clearly the common denominator. Targeted coaching to help balls skills and mental skills seems poor. I dont know about atmosphere at training. Is encouragement a key tool. Is the culture of continuous improvement the TOP objective.." Thats a good post and Ive had these thoughts continually whilst Meath have been under this coaching panel. Goalkeeping, free-taking, fielding, decision-making, slow build up, and unwillingness to take responsibility for shooting... all frequent issues in Meath games whether we win or lose. I'd add in my two cents on the issue as follows: those factors (or most of them) although very important look after themselves in the best teams any given season or set of seasons. Theyre pre-requisite skill levels at the top. They cant necessarily be worked upon with senior players at the elite level of the game. Not anymore. From what I see Meath are training and pushing on in areas which are variable such as their general aerobic fitness, conditioning, their reaction time, creating strike plays, and their ability to finish stronger than the majority of opposition, with the added bonus of a strong bench to always contribute good scores in the final quarter. Thats our trump card and we are very advanced in those areas. The killer assets of the game (i.e., top level talent) arent there at the moment but we've a good panel with obviously high levels of buy-in and their as fit and strong as they can be at this level. We've no one over 6'3 and no freakish specimens but a panel of 6' all rounders. In my view thats how we beat Kildare last year - superior fitness, superior reaction time, superior ability to strike for goals in set-piece like moves. When this team with all of their clear coached ability and fitness levels in the top percentages meet a Wicklow (like we did last year), the floodgates open. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 02/05/2021 06:59:46 2339677 Link
Replying To Young_gael: "Thats a good post and Ive had these thoughts continually whilst Meath have been under this coaching panel. Goalkeeping, free-taking, fielding, decision-making, slow build up, and unwillingness to take responsibility for shooting... all frequent issues in Meath games whether we win or lose. I'd add in my two cents on the issue as follows: those factors (or most of them) although very important look after themselves in the best teams any given season or set of seasons. Theyre pre-requisite skill levels at the top. They cant necessarily be worked upon with senior players at the elite level of the game. Not anymore. From what I see Meath are training and pushing on in areas which are variable such as their general aerobic fitness, conditioning, their reaction time, creating strike plays, and their ability to finish stronger than the majority of opposition, with the added bonus of a strong bench to always contribute good scores in the final quarter. Thats our trump card and we are very advanced in those areas. The killer assets of the game (i.e., top level talent) arent there at the moment but we've a good panel with obviously high levels of buy-in and their as fit and strong as they can be at this level. We've no one over 6'3 and no freakish specimens but a panel of 6' all rounders. In my view thats how we beat Kildare last year - superior fitness, superior reaction time, superior ability to strike for goals in set-piece like moves. When this team with all of their clear coached ability and fitness levels in the top percentages meet a Wicklow (like we did last year), the floodgates open." Atmosphere and style of management plays a key role in the development of any top team. Our own top players in their debates confirm that. Yes there may be the thoroughbred who just has the inbuilt ingredients to require little from leadership. Everything comes automatically to those people. In the past we have had a few of those all right. However, it seems in our present crop we have a group who most certainly require leadership. Recent hammerings have not helped in that regard in helping to build confidence Then it has to be down to style of coaching and management present. You can have too much "spoofing" and theory where players are paralized by too much analysis. Too much shouting ?? The end product being fear and confusion. OR The real alternative style where a culture of LEARNING is the currency and nothing else other than very high fitness levels of course. This has to be about installing and maintaining a culture of developing the person and the team by continuous learning and seeking to improve. When players see they are benefitting through this learning they will be more likely to BUY IN. This poster remains convinced we have a lot of work to do in improving our learning from mistakes . I am ,and have been informed and influenced by some of our own players of the past and present. I know we can improve substantially in the next couple of years using the right approach. If that does not include a learning envoirement where encouregement and development are top of the agenda then all bets are off. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 02/05/2021 10:51:03 2339681 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Atmosphere and style of management plays a key role in the development of any top team. Our own top players in their debates confirm that. Yes there may be the thoroughbred who just has the inbuilt ingredients to require little from leadership. Everything comes automatically to those people. In the past we have had a few of those all right. However, it seems in our present crop we have a group who most certainly require leadership. Recent hammerings have not helped in that regard in helping to build confidence Then it has to be down to style of coaching and management present. You can have too much "spoofing" and theory where players are paralized by too much analysis. Too much shouting ?? The end product being fear and confusion. OR The real alternative style where a culture of LEARNING is the currency and nothing else other than very high fitness levels of course. This has to be about installing and maintaining a culture of developing the person and the team by continuous learning and seeking to improve. When players see they are benefitting through this learning they will be more likely to BUY IN. This poster remains convinced we have a lot of work to do in improving our learning from mistakes . I am ,and have been informed and influenced by some of our own players of the past and present. I know we can improve substantially in the next couple of years using the right approach. If that does not include a learning envoirement where encouregement and development are top of the agenda then all bets are off." Of course we can work with and improve our senior players. All athletes, even thoes at the very top of their sport, benefit from good coaching. A good manager surrounds themselves with the necessary expertise to identify and improve all aspects of the game. A good player ( senior or new to panel) will be quick to recognise and buy into this culture. As you say, to date, management have been slow to learn from mistakes and there seems an unwillingness to even admit they exist. Our coach seems obsessed by theory and management speak, as was obvious is recent newspaper article. Only two weeks to go before season kicks off and hopefully some of our issues have been addressed. As with every new season I will watch first game in the hope there are good times on the way. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 02/05/2021 20:14:25 2339719 Link
Replying To seadog54: "Of course we can work with and improve our senior players. All athletes, even thoes at the very top of their sport, benefit from good coaching. A good manager surrounds themselves with the necessary expertise to identify and improve all aspects of the game. A good player ( senior or new to panel) will be quick to recognise and buy into this culture. As you say, to date, management have been slow to learn from mistakes and there seems an unwillingness to even admit they exist. Our coach seems obsessed by theory and management speak, as was obvious is recent newspaper article. Only two weeks to go before season kicks off and hopefully some of our issues have been addressed. As with every new season I will watch first game in the hope there are good times on the way." Oh absolutely ! I HOPE for signs that things are turning for the better ! like all Meath supporters HOPE has been the buz word for many years now. Faith, HOPE and charity Faith well god is good,! HOPE well we dont need anymore of that.! Charity no thanks! Meath supporter not wired that way ! Will continue to H O P E so ! nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 03/05/2021 12:28:05 2339777 Link
Any news on new additions to the panel or likely starting team for 1st round. Who is likely to be starting in goals? Any additional fielders to support midfield or good foot passers that can provide direct ball into forward line. Build up has been too slow for past 3 years and has been heavily reliant on deep runners. This will not work against better opposition but hopefully a new competent keeper has been sought out. We'll go nowhere unless these issues are addressed. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 05/05/2021 12:31:14 2340095 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "Any news on new additions to the panel or likely starting team for 1st round. Who is likely to be starting in goals? Any additional fielders to support midfield or good foot passers that can provide direct ball into forward line. Build up has been too slow for past 3 years and has been heavily reliant on deep runners. This will not work against better opposition but hopefully a new competent keeper has been sought out. We'll go nowhere unless these issues are addressed." New Additons Fionn Reilly - Gaeil Colmcille Jordan Muldoon - Gaeil Colmcille Danny Dixon - Boardsmill Liam Byrne - Dunboyne Returning Panel Members Michael Newman - Kilmainham Ben Brennan - St Colmcilles Harry Hogan - Longwood Goalkeepers Andy Colgan Harry Hogan Liam Byrne and Ben Brennan are also working with the keepers during the kick out training and strategy. This allows them to cover if Colgan or Hogan go down through injury and they won't have to parachute a new keeper into the mix. Mark/ Marcus Brennan is coaching them. Could see Newman at 11 as he's a decent foot passer of the ball and they leave Walsh and Morris inside. But that's only my opinion. Starting 15 is like the proverbial how long is a piece of string. I'd imagine they go as strong as possible out of the gate as they have to win the first two games. So i'd hazard a guess at Colgan Lavin-McGill-Keoghan J McEntee-Harnan-Costello Menton-Jones O'Sullivan-Newman-Ryan/S McEntee Morris-Walsh-McMahon/O'Reilly Leaves a bench of Hogan, C Hickey, E Harkin, J Wallace, J Conlon, B Conlon, J Scully, L Byrne, B Brennan, E Devine, D Lenihan, F Reilly, J Muldoon, D Dixon, E Wallace, D Campion, S Gallagher Might be missing a name or two but that's a panel if 34 with David Toner having left to go travelling this year, Graham Reilly, Ross Ryan and Sean Tobin having departed or left the squad. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 05/05/2021 16:22:44 2340129 Link
Replying To brian: "New Additons Fionn Reilly - Gaeil Colmcille Jordan Muldoon - Gaeil Colmcille Danny Dixon - Boardsmill Liam Byrne - Dunboyne Returning Panel Members Michael Newman - Kilmainham Ben Brennan - St Colmcilles Harry Hogan - Longwood Goalkeepers Andy Colgan Harry Hogan Liam Byrne and Ben Brennan are also working with the keepers during the kick out training and strategy. This allows them to cover if Colgan or Hogan go down through injury and they won't have to parachute a new keeper into the mix. Mark/ Marcus Brennan is coaching them. Could see Newman at 11 as he's a decent foot passer of the ball and they leave Walsh and Morris inside. But that's only my opinion. Starting 15 is like the proverbial how long is a piece of string. I'd imagine they go as strong as possible out of the gate as they have to win the first two games. So i'd hazard a guess at Colgan Lavin-McGill-Keoghan J McEntee-Harnan-Costello Menton-Jones O'Sullivan-Newman-Ryan/S McEntee Morris-Walsh-McMahon/O'Reilly Leaves a bench of Hogan, C Hickey, E Harkin, J Wallace, J Conlon, B Conlon, J Scully, L Byrne, B Brennan, E Devine, D Lenihan, F Reilly, J Muldoon, D Dixon, E Wallace, D Campion, S Gallagher Might be missing a name or two but that's a panel if 34 with David Toner having left to go travelling this year, Graham Reilly, Ross Ryan and Sean Tobin having departed or left the squad." Pretty good summary of the squad. Jack Flynn from Ratoath is in on the panel he might be an option to play corner forward coming out, or at half forward or maybe even midfield. But he's yet to play Meath senior and I think he's only 20 so hard to know if he'll be picked. I think Fionn Reilly is the pick of the new guys. A clear run from injury and it's a pretty good squad just lacking 3 or 4 key elements. But a lot of good players LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 05/05/2021 17:21:36 2340143 Link
Leinster Championship, Meath will play Carlow in Tullamore or Longford in Navan, depending on the outcome. Sunday 4th July seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 06/05/2021 20:15:15 2340323 Link
Replying To brian: "New Additons Fionn Reilly - Gaeil Colmcille Jordan Muldoon - Gaeil Colmcille Danny Dixon - Boardsmill Liam Byrne - Dunboyne Returning Panel Members Michael Newman - Kilmainham Ben Brennan - St Colmcilles Harry Hogan - Longwood Goalkeepers Andy Colgan Harry Hogan Liam Byrne and Ben Brennan are also working with the keepers during the kick out training and strategy. This allows them to cover if Colgan or Hogan go down through injury and they won't have to parachute a new keeper into the mix. Mark/ Marcus Brennan is coaching them. Could see Newman at 11 as he's a decent foot passer of the ball and they leave Walsh and Morris inside. But that's only my opinion. Starting 15 is like the proverbial how long is a piece of string. I'd imagine they go as strong as possible out of the gate as they have to win the first two games. So i'd hazard a guess at Colgan Lavin-McGill-Keoghan J McEntee-Harnan-Costello Menton-Jones O'Sullivan-Newman-Ryan/S McEntee Morris-Walsh-McMahon/O'Reilly Leaves a bench of Hogan, C Hickey, E Harkin, J Wallace, J Conlon, B Conlon, J Scully, L Byrne, B Brennan, E Devine, D Lenihan, F Reilly, J Muldoon, D Dixon, E Wallace, D Campion, S Gallagher Might be missing a name or two but that's a panel if 34 with David Toner having left to go travelling this year, Graham Reilly, Ross Ryan and Sean Tobin having departed or left the squad." GAA's Management Committee approved two double substitutions in the forthcoming league campaigns, bringing the number of substitutes a team can use from five to seven, while still keeping the number of times a substitution can happen at five. This new rule will favour the counties with stronger panels, however, starting 15 no longer a major issue? Difficult to select our best 15, hopefully its based on who are showing well in training and less on past performances, but above all get balance in the side. Lots of potential in panel you listed. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 06/05/2021 20:36:45 2340327 Link
In todays Examiner M Newman talks about his battle with injury over last few years and his desire to continue to play for club/county. Two hip ops and four surgeries in total, great credit to Mickey, he hopes to be fit enough to play in latter part of league. Other than MN all other panel members are fit for selection. Great boost, its been a while since we had an injury free panel. Meath (NFL panel): Ben Brennan, Liam Byrne, Darragh Campion, Robin Clarke, Andy Colgan, Brian Conlon, James Conlon, Mathew Costello, Keith Curtis, Ethan Devine, David Dillon, Danny Dixon, Jack Flynn, Eoin Harkin, Padraic Harnan, Cathal Hickey, Harry Hogan, Ronan Jones, Seamus Lavin, Donal Lenihan, Gavin McCoy, David McEntee, James McEntee, Shane McEntee, Conor McGill, Bryan McMahon, Bryan Menton, Jordan Morris, Jordan Muldoon, Michael Newman, Jack O'Connor, Thomas O'Reilly, Cillian O'Sullivan, Fionn Reilly, Ronan Ryan, Jason Scully, Eamon Wallace, Joey Wallace, Shane Walsh. https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/arid-40284017.html seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 07/05/2021 16:25:06 2340442 Link
Replying To seadog54: "In todays Examiner M Newman talks about his battle with injury over last few years and his desire to continue to play for club/county. Two hip ops and four surgeries in total, great credit to Mickey, he hopes to be fit enough to play in latter part of league. Other than MN all other panel members are fit for selection. Great boost, its been a while since we had an injury free panel. Meath (NFL panel): Ben Brennan, Liam Byrne, Darragh Campion, Robin Clarke, Andy Colgan, Brian Conlon, James Conlon, Mathew Costello, Keith Curtis, Ethan Devine, David Dillon, Danny Dixon, Jack Flynn, Eoin Harkin, Padraic Harnan, Cathal Hickey, Harry Hogan, Ronan Jones, Seamus Lavin, Donal Lenihan, Gavin McCoy, David McEntee, James McEntee, Shane McEntee, Conor McGill, Bryan McMahon, Bryan Menton, Jordan Morris, Jordan Muldoon, Michael Newman, Jack O'Connor, Thomas O'Reilly, Cillian O'Sullivan, Fionn Reilly, Ronan Ryan, Jason Scully, Eamon Wallace, Joey Wallace, Shane Walsh. https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/arid-40284017.html" Great to know the full squad. Only surprise there that I hadn't heard is no Shane Gallagher. Anybody know what the story is, he missed all of last year with injury but presumed he'd be back this year LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 07/05/2021 23:45:40 2340488 Link
Donal Keoghan not mentioned? urizen (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 08/05/2021 17:58:24 2340578 Link
Replying To urizen: "Donal Keoghan not mentioned?" Almost sure he is on the panel and it was just a mistake in the article LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 08/05/2021 19:19:50 2340591 Link
Nothing against the examiner as its a good paper but why do we have to rely on the Examiner to find out the panel after all this time? Andy seems to have a good relationship with the Meath Chronicle could he not issue it through there or through the official Meath GAA website? This thing of not even knowing if our star player is on the panel or not is a bit ridiculous in this day and age. stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 10/05/2021 10:51:29 2340880 Link
Replying To stillaroyal: "Nothing against the examiner as its a good paper but why do we have to rely on the Examiner to find out the panel after all this time? Andy seems to have a good relationship with the Meath Chronicle could he not issue it through there or through the official Meath GAA website? This thing of not even knowing if our star player is on the panel or not is a bit ridiculous in this day and age." To be fair in previous years we never knew who the full panel actually was. We just found out through O'Byrne games and you'd often find out about players leaving. One piece of bad news is that Ronan Jones broke his arm at the weekend at a challenge match. Most likely rules him out for the full season LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 10/05/2021 12:33:13 2340900 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "To be fair in previous years we never knew who the full panel actually was. We just found out through O'Byrne games and you'd often find out about players leaving. One piece of bad news is that Ronan Jones broke his arm at the weekend at a challenge match. Most likely rules him out for the full season" Agh bugger, Jones was a real bonus last year, still don't think he's a midfielder but would make a savage wing half forward. Where have all the great Meth Midfielders gone too. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 10/05/2021 14:58:31 2340935 Link
Replying To brian: "Agh bugger, Jones was a real bonus last year, still don't think he's a midfielder but would make a savage wing half forward. Where have all the great Meth Midfielders gone too." Sorry to Hear that Jones got injured a pity as has real potential . I think a lot of younger lads these days just want to play club football as they see county as way too much commitment the way its gone . I think this is why we don't have the choices needed Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 10/05/2021 15:35:15 2340948 Link
Replying To brian: "Agh bugger, Jones was a real bonus last year, still don't think he's a midfielder but would make a savage wing half forward. Where have all the great Meth Midfielders gone too." 2 in Australia anyway haha, Harry Rooney won't commit the panel. Even Gillespie and Shane O'Rourke without injury would still be of an age to play probably. Agree Jones would be a brilliant 10 or 12 for the county. Our curse that we had to have a great county 5 or 7 in Menton in midfield, and a potentially great 10/12 in Jones, and both have to be miscast to cover the lack of midfielders. Even now we could end up with Shane McEntee, Harnan, or Costello in midfield who aren't natural midfielders. You can have one of these box-to-box midfielders. but tough to get away with 2 of them LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 10/05/2021 16:02:31 2340956 Link
Terrible setback in jones been badly injured. I heard we won from one person, read we won convincingly from another, and one other said we lost. Does anyone on here know what the result was v Armagh?? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/05/2021 19:22:45 2340987 Link