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Replying To Shelbourne1:  "Sorry to disappoint but Darren Hughes didn't get a straight red yesterday so like Killian Clarke will be available for next day.
Both counties need Roscommon to keep losing and I would worry about Kerry team selection against them in Hyde. On their form against Dubs yesterday, Rossies would beat an under strength Kerry especially in a do or die situation."
Yeah, i think twitter said straight red but any report i read afterwards said 2 cards.


Kerry might rest a few in the Hyde but there are lads coming off the Kerry bench at the minute who look impressive too.


You never know - if we win in Clones, then ye will be hoping for a Ros draw against one of Galway or Kerry.

If we lose, that's game over for us.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 04/03/2019 15:33:56    2170155

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Replying To Shelbourne1:  "Sorry to disappoint but Darren Hughes didn't get a straight red yesterday so like Killian Clarke will be available for next day.
Both counties need Roscommon to keep losing and I would worry about Kerry team selection against them in Hyde. On their form against Dubs yesterday, Rossies would beat an under strength Kerry especially in a do or die situation."
Yes you are right. I think the best either Cavan or Monaghan can hope for is a Mayo win in Killarney next week and that means Kerry would need to beat Ros. I also think Ros will tighten Galway too.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 04/03/2019 16:09:27    2170168

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Replying To fredflint:  "Yes you are right. I think the best either Cavan or Monaghan can hope for is a Mayo win in Killarney next week and that means Kerry would need to beat Ros. I also think Ros will tighten Galway too."
There will be no Mayo win in Killarney nor will there be a Roscommon win in Pearse Stadium. What football have you been watching this past while?
Suppose you going for a Cavan win in clones too?
Keep the jokes coming... you good at them!

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 05/03/2019 10:07:02    2170334

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "There will be no Mayo win in Killarney nor will there be a Roscommon win in Pearse Stadium. What football have you been watching this past while?
Suppose you going for a Cavan win in clones too?
Keep the jokes coming... you good at them!"
Ah now isn't everyone entitled to make predictions no matter how mad they may be, I do recall yourself predicting that Cavan would beat a very average Donegal team in the Ulster championship last year and then in the qualifiers that Cavan would beat the worst Tyrone team in 15 years, funny that seeing as Donegal ended up Ulster Champions and Tyrone were beaten All Ireland finalists. Ah well we can't be right all the time I suppose.

aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 257 - 05/03/2019 15:11:55    2170411

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lets be realistic here for a minute, tyrone were in an all ireland final last year!!! i like a lot of cavan supporters went to omagh Saturday with some sort of blind faith. but the reality is that Tyrone were far too experienced for cavan tactically. cavan couldn't break through the wall of defenders tyrone had, it was stifling football. the longer the game went on the more the cavan lads stopped backing themselves. it wasn't until well into the first half cavan got the first score from play. well into the second before Mackey scored what was a brilliant point under immense pressure and that was the first time i really seen a cavan player back themselves.!!!! look, theres been flashes of good play from cavan during this league. some really attractive football. but tyrone don't let teams play like that. providing the lads don't drop the heads completely now i'm hopeful of a ding dong battle next weekend.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 05/03/2019 16:14:38    2170426

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Replying To aceofspades:  "Ah now isn't everyone entitled to make predictions no matter how mad they may be, I do recall yourself predicting that Cavan would beat a very average Donegal team in the Ulster championship last year and then in the qualifiers that Cavan would beat the worst Tyrone team in 15 years, funny that seeing as Donegal ended up Ulster Champions and Tyrone were beaten All Ireland finalists. Ah well we can't be right all the time I suppose."
I didn't predict anything other than Ros could tighten Galway. I said I "hoped for" mayo to beat Kerry.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 05/03/2019 16:46:12    2170431

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Been posting here for a good few years and the same old same old applies.
Hopes raised and then dashed, youth success but no senior progress. Manager after manager, ifs buts and maybes, should have could have and didn't.
Promotion followed by impending relegation.
Surely to god they're has to be an end in sight or light at the end of the tunnel!!!
Still buy the jersey and jackets and go to matches.
It's the Cavan thing I suppose.
Live in HOPE !!!!

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 06/03/2019 14:03:23    2170635

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Replying To Virginia:  "Been posting here for a good few years and the same old same old applies.
Hopes raised and then dashed, youth success but no senior progress. Manager after manager, ifs buts and maybes, should have could have and didn't.
Promotion followed by impending relegation.
Surely to god they're has to be an end in sight or light at the end of the tunnel!!!
Still buy the jersey and jackets and go to matches.
It's the Cavan thing I suppose.
Live in HOPE !!!!"
Oh dear.... The mob are going to descend on you and castigate you for your negativity. Of course, what you wrote there is the sheer harsh truth of the situation in Cavan football, but the truth doesn't sit well with a lot of those who frequent this forum.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 06/03/2019 15:01:34    2170651

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Oh dear.... The mob are going to descend on you and castigate you for your negativity. Of course, what you wrote there is the sheer harsh truth of the situation in Cavan football, but the truth doesn't sit well with a lot of those who frequent this forum."
I'd say most of the posters are not old enough to remember Cavan success at senior level.
Two AllIreland semi finals in my life time is enough to frustrate even the most hardened Cavan fan.
We live in hope that a crop of players can bring this famine to an end.

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 06/03/2019 19:23:39    2170709

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Replying To Virginia:  "I'd say most of the posters are not old enough to remember Cavan success at senior level.
Two AllIreland semi finals in my life time is enough to frustrate even the most hardened Cavan fan.
We live in hope that a crop of players can bring this famine to an end."
I grew frustrated about ten years ago, in my lifetime they've won a solitary provincial title, and that was two decades ago. Its been fairly abysmal since, and most worryingly is showing no signs of improving. You're completely right, it seems to me that most Cavan fans are contented to ignore the reality of systemic problems we have and simply hope for the best.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 06/03/2019 20:45:14    2170728

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Maybe my memory isn't as good as some of the other mini Jimmy Magees on here but my standout memory is how only seven years ago in 2012 we were about to be relegated to Division 4 and were losing to a woeful Offaly team in Breffni.
I suppose it's "same old, same old" now to be playing in Division One against the top teams in the country.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 06/03/2019 20:58:25    2170735

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Replying To BreffniGuide:  "Maybe my memory isn't as good as some of the other mini Jimmy Magees on here but my standout memory is how only seven years ago in 2012 we were about to be relegated to Division 4 and were losing to a woeful Offaly team in Breffni.
I suppose it's "same old, same old" now to be playing in Division One against the top teams in the country."
Nah, same old same old when you haven't got within an asses roar of winning your province.

Nice try though.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 06/03/2019 22:17:17    2170749

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Replying To BreffniGuide:  "Maybe my memory isn't as good as some of the other mini Jimmy Magees on here but my standout memory is how only seven years ago in 2012 we were about to be relegated to Division 4 and were losing to a woeful Offaly team in Breffni.
I suppose it's "same old, same old" now to be playing in Division One against the top teams in the country."
Yes, or Antrim knocking 4 goals past us in that same league and we hadn't won a minor or u21 title in 30 years. Nothing has changed, it's so bad!! And we have a god given right to be beating all the top teams too.

If football upsets you that much maybe consider fishing or something less taxing.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 06/03/2019 22:44:43    2170750

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Replying To BreffniGuide:  "Maybe my memory isn't as good as some of the other mini Jimmy Magees on here but my standout memory is how only seven years ago in 2012 we were about to be relegated to Division 4 and were losing to a woeful Offaly team in Breffni.
I suppose it's "same old, same old" now to be playing in Division One against the top teams in the country."
Look we were playing the Dubs in the 70s in league quarter finals , also contested 2 ulster finals in 3 years , 76,78 losing 1 after a replay . And you want to call 2012 to 2018 successful? What's successful about it? Beating London to qualify for the quarters a few years ago?
Name the last good team we beat in a tight game in the heat of the championship?

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 07/03/2019 06:17:19    2170763

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Replying To fredflint:  "Yes, or Antrim knocking 4 goals past us in that same league and we hadn't won a minor or u21 title in 30 years. Nothing has changed, it's so bad!! And we have a god given right to be beating all the top teams too.

If football upsets you that much maybe consider fishing or something less taxing."
We are in div 1 its our second year in div 1 in 3years, I know we aren't winning Ulster titles or all Ireland's but I'd rather be where we are than down in div 3 or 4, maybe it's the best we can be for now with our population and resources! But I think we are going to push on more give Mickey a chance, if we had to have our full deck to choose from in this league we probably would be on 6 points now, we have been lagging behind in conditioning to the top teams that will change now that our county board have employed a very good full time s+c coach Andre Quinn who was 9 years as head s+c coach with London Irish rugby team, but this won't happen over night, we have some great young players coming through in the next few years and they will be coming through fully conditioned, cheer up lads and support your county or else stop following football because it's bad for you's been negative all the time.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 07/03/2019 10:25:02    2170789

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Look we were playing the Dubs in the 70s in league quarter finals , also contested 2 ulster finals in 3 years , 76,78 losing 1 after a replay . And you want to call 2012 to 2018 successful? What's successful about it? Beating London to qualify for the quarters a few years ago?
Name the last good team we beat in a tight game in the heat of the championship?"
Cavan did not win anything at all between 1969 and 1997 and you think there is any period in there that is worth talking about? The province was also very weak at that time, no team even contested an all ireland final from 1969 until Down did in 1991. So Cavan won no Ulsters in a period when Ulster was at its weakest since the 1920's I would say. You hold that up as a more successful period in our history than today. Total nonsense.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 07/03/2019 10:51:20    2170804

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Replying To fredflint:  "Cavan did not win anything at all between 1969 and 1997 and you think there is any period in there that is worth talking about? The province was also very weak at that time, no team even contested an all ireland final from 1969 until Down did in 1991. So Cavan won no Ulsters in a period when Ulster was at its weakest since the 1920's I would say. You hold that up as a more successful period in our history than today. Total nonsense."
Well what have we won this past 10 years?
How many Ulster finals have we played in?
Actually how many Ulster championship games have we even won?
We won the hogan cup in 72 . Ulster minor in 74 and got to 2 senior finals in 76 and 78.
We won an u21 in 96 and a senior in 97 on the strength of that.
4 u21s since 2011 and can barely win a Ulster senior championship game on the back of that.
Armagh contested the final in 77 just to answer your statement that no ene contested an all Ireland between 69 and 91.
Bottom line is we have wasted our u21 talent of 2011-2014 as we are always team building.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 07/03/2019 12:01:18    2170831

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Well what have we won this past 10 years?
How many Ulster finals have we played in?
Actually how many Ulster championship games have we even won?
We won the hogan cup in 72 . Ulster minor in 74 and got to 2 senior finals in 76 and 78.
We won an u21 in 96 and a senior in 97 on the strength of that.
4 u21s since 2011 and can barely win a Ulster senior championship game on the back of that.
Armagh contested the final in 77 just to answer your statement that no ene contested an all Ireland between 69 and 91.
Bottom line is we have wasted our u21 talent of 2011-2014 as we are always team building."
Its a different world now, the province is ultra competitive. Even Fermanagh look like they will be in Div 1 next year. In the 70s the standard was brutal and yes only 1 Ulster team made a final getting bet out the gate by Dublin. There are no soft teams in Ulster now bar maybe Antrim. So I agree our results have been poor in Ulster, although we have been very close to the top teams in Ulster when we have played them bar Donegal last year. But whats the point moaning about the past, we have a new manager barely in the job. Why don't you and the other lad (Cavan Shambles, who claims he is not negative with that username) give them a chance.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 07/03/2019 12:25:36    2170835

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Well what have we won this past 10 years?
How many Ulster finals have we played in?
Actually how many Ulster championship games have we even won?
We won the hogan cup in 72 . Ulster minor in 74 and got to 2 senior finals in 76 and 78.
We won an u21 in 96 and a senior in 97 on the strength of that.
4 u21s since 2011 and can barely win a Ulster senior championship game on the back of that.
Armagh contested the final in 77 just to answer your statement that no ene contested an all Ireland between 69 and 91.
Bottom line is we have wasted our u21 talent of 2011-2014 as we are always team building."
Can I just ask what is the point of all this? Is not been in Ulster finals and winning them Mickey graham is trying to fix that!! He needs a chance lads he is 5 games into his managerial debut with Cavan and he has played some of the top teams in the country won 1 lost 3 by small margins and got beat well in 1, if he was in division 2 he might have won most of them if not them all, give him time to get players back from injury and get his best team on the field.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 07/03/2019 12:31:46    2170838

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For the love of god, stop engaging with whiney cranks. You won't change their minds.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12200 - 07/03/2019 12:39:37    2170840

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