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Replying To cavanblueman:  "I agree, the doom and gloom merchants, the same lads, who gave us no hope after the McKenna Cup and Clare match.

Yes, Donegal are a good team, but they got relegated by a very poor Mayo Team, theyre going to be playing Division 2 football next year. The pressure is all on Donegal to put in a good performance in Ulster.

Cavan had an off day against Roscommon, but still ran them close, we should be going into the championship with confidence."
I believe we are in with a good chance .
We are playing better and more watchable football than a few years ago.
As I said before this is a shadow Donegal team from their 2012/2014 sides.
A little tightening up in defence and a bit more composure by forwards when on the ball and you would see a big improvement .

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 12/04/2018 12:29:03    2092555

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "I agree, the doom and gloom merchants, the same lads, who gave us no hope after the McKenna Cup and Clare match.

Yes, Donegal are a good team, but they got relegated by a very poor Mayo Team, theyre going to be playing Division 2 football next year. The pressure is all on Donegal to put in a good performance in Ulster.

Cavan had an off day against Roscommon, but still ran them close, we should be going into the championship with confidence."
A very poor Mayo team? Is that a joke? That Mayo team are unequivocally the best team to never win an all Ireland, simply because they're playing in an era of the greatest team of all time, I.e Dublin.

Anyway, I digress, but thats a daft claim. Daft.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 12/04/2018 13:16:07    2092567

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Replying To EastCavan:  "Yes, our lads are all back with clubs. The way it should be"
Good to hear and will benefit both clubs & county team.

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 12/04/2018 23:15:31    2092706

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Each Cavan forward should be given a video of Paddy Mcbrearty scoring points and asked to practice his technique every day from now until the game. His ''roy of the rover' style is a pleasure to watch and heart breaking for the opposition.
Declankillann

declankillann (Dublin) - Posts: 83 - 13/04/2018 12:14:21    2092799

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Replying To declankillann:  "Each Cavan forward should be given a video of Paddy Mcbrearty scoring points and asked to practice his technique every day from now until the game. His ''roy of the rover' style is a pleasure to watch and heart breaking for the opposition.
Declankillann"
Wonderful player but his "roy of the rover" style got them relegated.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 13/04/2018 15:32:42    2092858

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Replying To declankillann:  "Each Cavan forward should be given a video of Paddy Mcbrearty scoring points and asked to practice his technique every day from now until the game. His ''roy of the rover' style is a pleasure to watch and heart breaking for the opposition.
Declankillann"
If you cut the supply off to him he won't do much, nor will any forward. Forwards are only as good as the ball they get

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 13/04/2018 15:59:03    2092867

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "If you cut the supply off to him he won't do much, nor will any forward. Forwards are only as good as the ball they get"
As Mike Tyson once said, everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 13/04/2018 16:41:39    2092877

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "Wonderful player but his "roy of the rover" style got them relegated."
Wonderful player but his "roy of the rover" style got them relegated.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1207 - 13/04/2018 15:32:42 2092858

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off course you know they will be back up for the 2020 season and who will pass them on their way down????

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 13/04/2018 19:00:16    2092895

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Replying To declankillann:  "Each Cavan forward should be given a video of Paddy Mcbrearty scoring points and asked to practice his technique every day from now until the game. His ''roy of the rover' style is a pleasure to watch and heart breaking for the opposition.
Declankillann"
It might be better if the Cavan defenders are given those videos too!!!

fatkeeper (Dublin) - Posts: 316 - 15/04/2018 08:45:50    2093058

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Who's our Roy of the Rovers ?
We'd love to have a Mc Brearty or Murphy!!!!

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 17/04/2018 15:03:05    2093575

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Looks like Mackey and Johnston will be needed from the start v Donegal, with McVeety & Caoimhin both extremely doubtful with hamstring injuries, as is McLoughlin.....apparently Stephen Murray pulled his at the weekend.

Is this a managemnet/training issue....are the players are being flogged? There was disagreements between coaches/physios and Mattie last year, where they (the backroom team) were overruled, especially in the run up to the Tipperary game....is the same happening again?

Crash Bang Wallop (None) - Posts: 268 - 17/04/2018 18:13:53    2093637

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Replying To Crash Bang Wallop:  "Looks like Mackey and Johnston will be needed from the start v Donegal, with McVeety & Caoimhin both extremely doubtful with hamstring injuries, as is McLoughlin.....apparently Stephen Murray pulled his at the weekend.

Is this a managemnet/training issue....are the players are being flogged? There was disagreements between coaches/physios and Mattie last year, where they (the backroom team) were overruled, especially in the run up to the Tipperary game....is the same happening again?"
Is this a managemnet/training issue....are the players are being flogged? There was disagreements between coaches/physios and Mattie last year, where they (the backroom team) were overruled, especially in the run up to the Tipperary game....is the same happening again?

Crash Bang Wallop (None) - Posts: 267 - 17/04/2018 18:13:53 2093637

Where the hell do you get your information from, how far you are from the truth is unnatural. You say there was disagreements between all the coaches the Physio and the manager thats a first for sure.
Question: who is responsible for strength and conditioning ?
Question: who is responsible for tactics??
Question: what roll do the people up in the so called stats box have towards decisions on the field of play??
Question: You have three trainers how much faith would one have on these going forward.
Question: Who picks the team is it the manager the trainers the strength and fitness trainer the stats persons or the physio.
You have players that are prone to injuries on a regular basis normally the same injuries who do you blame for these or is it alway's going to be accepted these players will be carried no matter what both at club and county level. This is not the players fault if management wish to carry them year on year.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 17/04/2018 20:28:27    2093663

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Is this a managemnet/training issue....are the players are being flogged? There was disagreements between coaches/physios and Mattie last year, where they (the backroom team) were overruled, especially in the run up to the Tipperary game....is the same happening again?

Crash Bang Wallop (None) - Posts: 267 - 17/04/2018 18:13:53 2093637

Where the hell do you get your information from, how far you are from the truth is unnatural. You say there was disagreements between all the coaches the Physio and the manager thats a first for sure.
Question: who is responsible for strength and conditioning ?
Question: who is responsible for tactics??
Question: what roll do the people up in the so called stats box have towards decisions on the field of play??
Question: You have three trainers how much faith would one have on these going forward.
Question: Who picks the team is it the manager the trainers the strength and fitness trainer the stats persons or the physio.
You have players that are prone to injuries on a regular basis normally the same injuries who do you blame for these or is it alway's going to be accepted these players will be carried no matter what both at club and county level. This is not the players fault if management wish to carry them year on year."
What's your point Sean?

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 878 - 17/04/2018 21:58:45    2093676

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Replying To RHF:  "What's your point Sean?"
Replying To seanorinn: "Is this a managemnet/training issue....are the players are being flogged? There was disagreements between coaches/physios and Mattie last year, where they (the backroom team) were overruled, especially in the run up to the Tipperary game....is the same happening again?

Crash Bang Wallop (None) - Posts: 267 - 17/04/2018 18:13:53 2093637

Where the hell do you get your information from, how far you are from the truth is unnatural. You say there was disagreements between all the coaches the Physio and the manager thats a first for sure.
Question: who is responsible for strength and conditioning ?
Question: who is responsible for tactics??
Question: what roll do the people up in the so called stats box have towards decisions on the field of play??
Question: You have three trainers how much faith would one have on these going forward.
Question: Who picks the team is it the manager the trainers the strength and fitness trainer the stats persons or the physio.
You have players that are prone to injuries on a regular basis normally the same injuries who do you blame for these or is it alway's going to be accepted these players will be carried no matter what both at club and county level. This is not the players fault if management wish to carry them year on year."
What's your point Sean?
RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 537 - 17/04/2018 21:58:45 20

My question is directed towards crash bang wallop for his post is confusing me. He has pointed a finger and let's see what he really thinks.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 17/04/2018 23:17:46    2093689

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Is this a managemnet/training issue....are the players are being flogged? There was disagreements between coaches/physios and Mattie last year, where they (the backroom team) were overruled, especially in the run up to the Tipperary game....is the same happening again?

Crash Bang Wallop (None) - Posts: 267 - 17/04/2018 18:13:53 2093637

Where the hell do you get your information from, how far you are from the truth is unnatural. You say there was disagreements between all the coaches the Physio and the manager thats a first for sure.
Question: who is responsible for strength and conditioning ?
Question: who is responsible for tactics??
Question: what roll do the people up in the so called stats box have towards decisions on the field of play??
Question: You have three trainers how much faith would one have on these going forward.
Question: Who picks the team is it the manager the trainers the strength and fitness trainer the stats persons or the physio.
You have players that are prone to injuries on a regular basis normally the same injuries who do you blame for these or is it alway's going to be accepted these players will be carried no matter what both at club and county level. This is not the players fault if management wish to carry them year on year."
Are you's not familiar how management works??? The manager makes ALL the decisions.. he picks the team.. he makes the subs ... he can over rule anyone! He is the BOSS!

kupa (Monaghan) - Posts: 281 - 18/04/2018 11:17:20    2093749

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Replying To kupa:  "Are you's not familiar how management works??? The manager makes ALL the decisions.. he picks the team.. he makes the subs ... he can over rule anyone! He is the BOSS!"
Are you's not familiar how management works??? The manager makes ALL the decisions.. he picks the team.. he makes the subs ... he can over rule anyone! He is the BOSS!
kupa (Monaghan) - Posts: 208 - 18/04/2018 11:17:20 2093749

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Yes I was off the same opinion myself BUT

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 18/04/2018 14:07:30    2093798

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McVeety back jogging last night I hear.

fatkeeper (Dublin) - Posts: 316 - 18/04/2018 22:55:58    2093879

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Mark McKeever brought in as extra selector ahead of Ulster Championship.

Heard this from an extremely reliable source.

Great move for the County team.

YOUWONTCODME (Cavan) - Posts: 125 - 19/04/2018 10:07:07    2093908

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Replying To YOUWONTCODME:  "Mark McKeever brought in as extra selector ahead of Ulster Championship.

Heard this from an extremely reliable source.

Great move for the County team."
Why is it a great move ?

kupa (Monaghan) - Posts: 281 - 19/04/2018 11:15:47    2093919

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Replying To kupa:  "Why is it a great move ?"
Because he played for Cavan for donkeys years and has a serious knowledge of the game.

Currently still playing Senior club football and knows players inside out.

Is that a good enough answer?

YOUWONTCODME (Cavan) - Posts: 125 - 19/04/2018 12:42:20    2093945

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