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Replying To fatkeeper: "You would hold McKiernan till 2nd half?! Mad stuff. He has to start and Clarke will fall back to mark Murphy." Have you been at any Cavan matches in the last w years? passengers around the middle have been a liability MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 07/04/2018 12:25:26 2091539 Link
I think we need to discover more players, Madden was the hero against Tip but fluffed his lines badly against the Rossies. Maybe the occasion got to him.Strength in depth is key to any successful team as proven by the Irish rugby team. We're still weak in a lot of positions all over the park. Donegal in Ballybofey where they haven't lost for years is a daunting task. Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 101 - 07/04/2018 14:00:48 2091547 Link
Replying To kildare blue: "Folks, can we move on from the McVetty injury scenario of last Sunday. None of us know how things panned out at the time, what information the player gave the medical team and what information the medical team relayed to the manager, However, i very much doubt that the manager would have allowed to guy to play on if he knew the full extent of his injury. We have just shy of 5 weeks to adjust for the fact that we will not have Dara with us. It's more than enough time to plan for his loss. I for one am hoping that some of the more senior players, who did not have a great day out last Sunday, will step up to the plate in May. We have finished as one of the top 10 teams in the National League over the past three years. Unfortunately, we will be playing a team who have finished in the top 8 over the same period in the Preliminary Round of the Ulster Championship, that's life, it was the same scenario, Monaghan, last year. However, as a top 10 League team we should aspire to arrive at a position later in the summer where we are playing in a knock out game to qualify for the Super 8's." We have finished as one of the top 10 teams in the National League over the past three years. Unfortunately, we will be playing a team who have finished in the top 8 over the same period in the Preliminary Round of the Ulster Championship, that's life, it was the same scenario, Monaghan, last year. However, as a top 10 League team we should aspire to arrive at a position later in the summer where we are playing in a knock out game to qualify for the Super 8's. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 481 - 07/04/2018 12:21:12 2091537 Post Reply Are you saying this team will be playing or should be playing later on this year to compete in the top 8 how does this work to get into that position over the championship. Should we lose agains Donegal and the first round of the qualifiers are they still able to compete for the top 8 if yes how does this work. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 07/04/2018 17:54:34 2091563 Link
Sean, I am assuming that the four Provincial Final losers will play the last four teams standing from the qualifiers for a spot in the Super 8's, the other four sports being occupied by the Provincial winners. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 08/04/2018 08:50:20 2091613 Link
Replying To kildare blue: "Sean, I am assuming that the four Provincial Final losers will play the last four teams standing from the qualifiers for a spot in the Super 8's, the other four sports being occupied by the Provincial winners." Sean, I am assuming that the four Provincial Final losers will play the last four teams standing from the qualifiers for a spot in the Super 8's, the other four sports being occupied by the Provincial winners. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 08/04/2018 08:50:20 209161 It's confusing this super 8 thing. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 08/04/2018 10:55:28 2091621 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "Sean, I am assuming that the four Provincial Final losers will play the last four teams standing from the qualifiers for a spot in the Super 8's, the other four sports being occupied by the Provincial winners. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 08/04/2018 08:50:20 209161 It's confusing this super 8 thing." Nothing confusing about it. Same system as it always was except the last 8 are divided into 2 groups of 4 for a round robin. More cash for Croker would be the main objective Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 08/04/2018 12:58:05 2091632 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Nothing confusing about it. Same system as it always was except the last 8 are divided into 2 groups of 4 for a round robin. More cash for Croker would be the main objective" Replying To seanorinn: "Sean, I am assuming that the four Provincial Final losers will play the last four teams standing from the qualifiers for a spot in the Super 8's, the other four sports being occupied by the Provincial winners. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 08/04/2018 08:50:20 209161 It's confusing this super 8 thing." Nothing confusing about it. Same system as it always was except the last 8 are divided into 2 groups of 4 for a round robin. More cash for Croker would be the main objective Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 504 - 08/04/2018 12:58:05 2091632 Is tat the way it's going to be to get to the all Ireland final then for the future. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 08/04/2018 14:37:00 2091642 Link
I'd say we can expect a big press on our kickouts. I'd play McKiernan at full forward, bring him out to half forward line for kick outs and tell galligan to kick the ball over all the midfield into half forward line. In that scenario id put Faulkner car back, Clarke full back, holla wing back. Then we need one of our sub midfielders to make a late run to get into team. Galligan McLaughlin Clarke Murray Holla Faulkner M Reilly Magee Brady/Buchanan Kiernan Moynagh Mackey C reilly Mckiernan Madden Midfield is weak but I think defense must be priority. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 08/04/2018 16:30:00 2091657 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "Replying To seanorinn: "Sean, I am assuming that the four Provincial Final losers will play the last four teams standing from the qualifiers for a spot in the Super 8's, the other four sports being occupied by the Provincial winners. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 08/04/2018 08:50:20 209161 It's confusing this super 8 thing." Nothing confusing about it. Same system as it always was except the last 8 are divided into 2 groups of 4 for a round robin. More cash for Croker would be the main objective Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 504 - 08/04/2018 12:58:05 2091632 Is tat the way it's going to be to get to the all Ireland final then for the future." 3 year trial. One home game, one away and other game in Croke Park. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 08/04/2018 17:03:50 2091661 Link
Replying To fredflint: "I'd say we can expect a big press on our kickouts. I'd play McKiernan at full forward, bring him out to half forward line for kick outs and tell galligan to kick the ball over all the midfield into half forward line. In that scenario id put Faulkner car back, Clarke full back, holla wing back. Then we need one of our sub midfielders to make a late run to get into team. Galligan McLaughlin Clarke Murray Holla Faulkner M Reilly Magee Brady/Buchanan Kiernan Moynagh Mackey C reilly Mckiernan Madden Midfield is weak but I think defense must be priority." I'd agree with your 2-8 feel Donegal will play Murphy in midfield and we have much to mark him Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 08/04/2018 20:07:02 2091699 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "I'd agree with your 2-8 feel Donegal will play Murphy in midfield and we have much to mark him" If Cavan wish to progress they have to solve many areas and let me tell you priority is from Midfield back to the back line. As most kick outs bypass the middle man I would get Joe Dillion back and Ray Cullivan and give them the midfield slots. They both have heart they both know how to score they both are very aware of players around them they both will frustrate many players which will be to Cavan's advantage card wise think beyond the current panel for god sake and lets get a team that any county would fear. Secondly players have been mentioned a lot here but they need to learn how to be disciplined if you have not got that you are a liability to any team. 6 weeks to get a team together for the championship???? The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 10/04/2018 11:20:56 2092037 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "If Cavan wish to progress they have to solve many areas and let me tell you priority is from Midfield back to the back line. As most kick outs bypass the middle man I would get Joe Dillion back and Ray Cullivan and give them the midfield slots. They both have heart they both know how to score they both are very aware of players around them they both will frustrate many players which will be to Cavan's advantage card wise think beyond the current panel for god sake and lets get a team that any county would fear. Secondly players have been mentioned a lot here but they need to learn how to be disciplined if you have not got that you are a liability to any team. 6 weeks to get a team together for the championship????" Dillon or Cullivan would not handle Murphy. He has a serious engine and would need man marking as would McBrearty . Mc Loughlin in my opinion is the man to man mark mc Brearty. Murphy is a different proposition. He can field, he's accurate and more importantly he's very strong when in possession and can win frees and convert them . If we can hold Murphy at midfield it cuts 50% of the supply to Mc Brearty. It's like the Down team of the 90s if you held Greg Blaney it cut most of the supply to Linden. We are in with a chance but experience around the middle of the park is where we are lacking. Faulkner going centre back is a must because he's a great reader of the game and a centre back must have that. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 10/04/2018 11:48:21 2092043 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "If Cavan wish to progress they have to solve many areas and let me tell you priority is from Midfield back to the back line. As most kick outs bypass the middle man I would get Joe Dillion back and Ray Cullivan and give them the midfield slots. They both have heart they both know how to score they both are very aware of players around them they both will frustrate many players which will be to Cavan's advantage card wise think beyond the current panel for god sake and lets get a team that any county would fear. Secondly players have been mentioned a lot here but they need to learn how to be disciplined if you have not got that you are a liability to any team. 6 weeks to get a team together for the championship????" In 6 weeks we will either be heading for Ulster Championship 1st Round or the Qualifiers. We play Donegal on Sunday 4 weeks it is highly unlikely that there will be additions to the panel at this stage AND rumour has it that Joe Dillon is heading to the States. Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 471 - 10/04/2018 11:53:09 2092046 Link
Sean o Rinn we have to use the panel that's been there since the start of the league. No point in being lads like Cullivan in now. If we get our spine right we can build around it. Clarke full back , Faulkner centre back someone like McGee centre forward and McKiernan full forward. I feel McKiernan would test Neil McGee at full back if we let the ball in. There 30 mins in Johnston as a corner forward not at centre forward like he was in the league final. He was kicking lovely foot passed into where he should have been himself. We need 9 forwards to rotate over 70 minutes. Midfield is where we have major problems . If seen nothing from McKiernan this year to warrant a place in midfield. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 10/04/2018 11:58:20 2092048 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Sean o Rinn we have to use the panel that's been there since the start of the league. No point in being lads like Cullivan in now. If we get our spine right we can build around it. Clarke full back , Faulkner centre back someone like McGee centre forward and McKiernan full forward. I feel McKiernan would test Neil McGee at full back if we let the ball in. There 30 mins in Johnston as a corner forward not at centre forward like he was in the league final. He was kicking lovely foot passed into where he should have been himself. We need 9 forwards to rotate over 70 minutes. Midfield is where we have major problems . If seen nothing from McKiernan this year to warrant a place in midfield." Sean o Rinn we have to use the panel that's been there since the start of the league. No point in being lads like Cullivan in now. If we get our spine right we can build around it. Clarke full back , Faulkner centre back someone like McGee centre forward and McKiernan full forward. I feel McKiernan would test Neil McGee at full back if we let the ball in. There 30 mins in Johnston as a corner forward not at centre forward like he was in the league final. He was kicking lovely foot passed into where he should have been himself. We need 9 forwards to rotate over 70 minutes. Midfield is where we have major problems . If seen nothing from McKiernan this year to warrant a place in midfield. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 508 - 10/04/2018 11:58:20 We don't have a spine so if it means bringing in players so be it. We have not had a spine sine 2002 jesus it's not rocket science is it to establish a spine first and foremost. We have the start with Galligan No1 now can you name me what you think would be your spine from there. You can carry maybe one player but you cannot carry more. If every player on the pitch is attack orientated we will be hammered and that is how it looks right now ??????? The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 10/04/2018 12:17:47 2092057 Link
Replying To seanorinn: "Sean o Rinn we have to use the panel that's been there since the start of the league. No point in being lads like Cullivan in now. If we get our spine right we can build around it. Clarke full back , Faulkner centre back someone like McGee centre forward and McKiernan full forward. I feel McKiernan would test Neil McGee at full back if we let the ball in. There 30 mins in Johnston as a corner forward not at centre forward like he was in the league final. He was kicking lovely foot passed into where he should have been himself. We need 9 forwards to rotate over 70 minutes. Midfield is where we have major problems . If seen nothing from McKiernan this year to warrant a place in midfield. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 508 - 10/04/2018 11:58:20 We don't have a spine so if it means bringing in players so be it. We have not had a spine sine 2002 jesus it's not rocket science is it to establish a spine first and foremost. We have the start with Galligan No1 now can you name me what you think would be your spine from there. You can carry maybe one player but you cannot carry more. If every player on the pitch is attack orientated we will be hammered and that is how it looks right now ???????" Well if you start with McLoughlin Clarke Murray Holla Faulkner MReilly That's as good a 6 backs as we have and all fairly experienced. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 10/04/2018 12:56:14 2092073 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Well if you start with McLoughlin Clarke Murray Holla Faulkner MReilly That's as good a 6 backs as we have and all fairly experienced." Agree McGiolla (Cavan) - Posts: 42 - 10/04/2018 13:30:26 2092087 Link
I was delighted to see Cavan play so well in Croke Park, a game they could so easily have won except for naivete in front of goal. Bradley's opening goal was a real beauty, this man has class and must be encouraged to develop. Our forwards generally didn't appear to know how to kick points or were afraid to swing the boot through the ball, the ball will only keep its line when the boot follows through. In the first half cavan shot three bad wides from the 'D' all to the right of the right hand post and all because the boot didn't go through the ball. First principle, if the first ball goes wide on the right make sure the second one does not go wide on the right. Elementary. The same goes for galligan's forty fives. G. McKiernan needs a serious wake up call. With a few tweaks this Cavan team can go a long way. declankillann declankillann (Dublin) - Posts: 83 - 10/04/2018 14:58:11 2092119 Link
1 galligan 2 mcgloughlan 3 k clarke 4 n murray 5 c brady 6 faulkner 7 reilly 8 t galligan (if fit) 9 mckeirnan 10 c bradly 11 mackey 12 o kernan 13 c reilly 14 a cole 15 seanie I would love to see tomas galligan at full flight he is a fantastic player when fully fit . There are so many players not involved that it is a shame lads didnt get a call up . Paul graham Mark mcgee Kevin meehan Joe dullion Gerry smith Jack brady David wilson Martin dunne Barry fortune cavanlawd123 (Cavan) - Posts: 70 - 10/04/2018 15:25:35 2092126 Link
Lets put the matter to rest once and for all. Cavan had an off day against Roscommon, some of the lads that had a terrific league, it just didn't happen for them on the day in Croker, but the same lads might have a stormer against Donegal. The pressure is all on Donegal, they were relegated to Division 2, send packing by a very poor Mayo team so they have all to prove, they have big named players, so the pressure is all on them to perform. Cavan are the in form team, they had a great National League, got to a final, narrowly beaten when not playing at their best, and they go into the Donegal match having been promoted to Division One. Yes, there needs to be some improvement here and there, and Mattie will be working on that, they'll have watched the league final over and over again and will correct the mistakes. I think we should be very excited, and look forward to the match, its the first time in many years that we can feel confident going into an Ulster Championship game - dont be surprised if we are in Clones on Ulster Final Day. cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 10/04/2018 15:29:17 2092128 Link