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Westmeath v Offaly

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As I think Limerick are in a bad place and made us look good, and apparently we have a few injuries. We have a poor record against Offaly in the league and have to say Offaly by 3 or 4.

Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 775 - 24/03/2016 08:27:48    1837201

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Both teams have something to play for and its WM v OY.

Expecting a very close encounter.

May the best team win.

UpOffaly (Offaly) - Posts: 54 - 24/03/2016 17:44:05    1837440

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With the lads out injured, could this force the team to play a bit more positively ?
It's sink or swim time now for sure.
Offaly are no great shakes but had wins over Clare (a point), Sligo (2 points) and Longford (2 points).
They lost to Tipperary by 5 and Kildare by 4.
I guess for a derby like this form goes out the window.
I'll take a low scoring one point win 0-12, 0-11 ! #iarmhíabú
Paddy Power have Westmeath at 1/2 and Offaly 2/1 with 15/2 the draw

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 621 - 24/03/2016 18:44:03    1837461

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Was working down around Tullamore this week, There is massive confidence that they will win this game. I suppose rightly so considering our league campaign to date. With our backs to the wall and div 4 staring us in the face we will need a monumental performance. There is so much confidence surrounding Offaly for this game, I am worried. There has to be a big performance in us as travelling to some div 4 games is about as appealing as watching paint dry.

smiler14 (Westmeath) - Posts: 121 - 24/03/2016 20:00:28    1837476

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Confidence in Tullamore is only good for the bookies IMO.

Making odds on leagues football games is a bit like Russian Roulette, but the people who make the odds typically know a lot more than everyone else as it is their business.

The reality is that you have been playing at a much higher level than us for a long time. What is happening in your league campaign does not make sense to me. I know I'm not alone.

Looking at the possibility of relegation to the cellar division, I expect WM to be at their best this weekend and also because its us you are playing. Quietly I'd like to see you play as well as you are capable (and us as well) so we can see where both teams really stand. Given what is at stake I would not expect a spectacle.

UpOffaly (Offaly) - Posts: 54 - 25/03/2016 13:41:08    1837602

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Are we hoping for Kildare and Clare to win to keep us with a chance of avoiding relegation? I would expect a tight game tomorrow with a small crowd. I am not in favour of Easter Sunday games myself of course with no floodlights at the county ground the options are limited.

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 450 - 26/03/2016 15:01:32    1837786

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Division 4 games are as appealing as watching paint dry he says.. The funny thing is division 4 is the level the Westmeath footballers are at.

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 223 - 28/03/2016 16:18:21    1838480

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I think you are wrong about us been a div 4 side. We are at the very least a div 2 team. This year we have been below par but on Sunday I expect us to take care of Longford comfortably and maintain our div 3 status which will allow us to make a real push to move back up the divisions next year.

smiler14 (Westmeath) - Posts: 121 - 29/03/2016 16:40:32    1838927

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at the very least a division 2 team? so you think they are a possible division 1 team? you're having a laugh

westmeath2015 (Westmeath) - Posts: 153 - 29/03/2016 17:21:26    1838952

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What are you basing that on smiler?

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1654 - 29/03/2016 17:37:23    1838966

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were you at the game at the weekend, a much better performance, we were very slow to start this year.

smiler14 (Westmeath) - Posts: 121 - 29/03/2016 18:40:27    1839009

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We played in division 2 in 2014.. we did not win a game!

Every year we are below par. The truth is that division 4 is our level at the moment.

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 223 - 30/03/2016 16:33:55    1839361

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League tables don't lie smiler. Meath are struggling to stay in division 2. Dublin aside l leinster is made up of division 3/4 teams.

overdabar (Westmeath) - Posts: 209 - 30/03/2016 19:18:30    1839425

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Smiler I don't know what game you were at, you are either being extremely sarcastic or are seriously deluded. In my opinion our full back line was extremely poor, if Offaly had any teeth at all they would have punished us more. Boyle has lost pace, Maguire has lost form and Daly gifted 2 or 3 points to Offaly. Our half back line is not good at stopping the opposition breaking in and midfield was watery at best. Thought Corroon was poor at times jumping off the ground but making no real attempt to field kick outs Daly was the better of the pair. Half forward line were non existent as they were permanently camped inside our own 45 trying to cover the weaknesses in our half back line. The full forwards were thus starved of possession as we were depending on either long ball from half back line or carrying it forward. It was like watching rugby at times, players trying to move forward with the ball going backwards all the time. I was disappointed with the second half because we had a strong wind, and if we kept our forwards forward we could have put Offaly to the sword. Our bench was weak apart from Greville none of the other subs were of good county standard. We are a Div3 team now end of. Most of the Div2 teams would blow us away at the moment.

Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 775 - 31/03/2016 12:58:27    1839623

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Chops im talking about staying in div three this year and building next year. A year is a long time in GAA as we have found out in the past. We should take care of Longford this weekend and that will be job done. Then some forwards steps and another good championship will work wonders for us.

smiler14 (Westmeath) - Posts: 121 - 31/03/2016 18:47:08    1839821

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Can I point something out. I am never negative but I must be realistic at the same time.
Lets take a look at where we are at a county football team. Last year we got to a Leinster final beating Louth and Wexford (div 4) then the mighty win v Meath (now heading for div 3. Then Dublin who are miles away from everyone. Leinster football is in its worst state ever with only Dublin in div 1 and Meath coming down and Kildare going up there will only be 2 teams in the top 2 div. So last year we weren't world beaters but just beat the bottom end of the quality counties.
Now we need to win Sunday and start making progress not at senior level as this will not change until our underage is sorted as is proven in Rosscommon, Monaghan, Fermanagh and Cavan. We cannot expect our senior team to keep performing when they are not adding 4 or 5 quality well developed athletes every year. Look at Rossies for example Ultan Harney was under 21 last year. his structure his strength and conditioning has been done as a elite athlete level since he was 13 and now he is a quality Senior footballer who is a superb athlete. So what do we do well we go back to scratch stop whinging settle down work hard starting at 12, 13 and 14 putting in a full time strength and conditioning coach to manage and monitor there progress then get the best coaches we can find within our county and have them at this level. I think we tick over and do our best at senior and wear the jersey with pride but all our finance must go into 10-14 age grade and lets start to build and copy other successful counties. Lets do it now and not wait till we are in the bottom 8 teams in the country.
Clubs need to want it though as this has to be club and delegate led. Please lets take our heads out of the sand and start looking at making it a professional approach because we have the talent but we need the structure.
So best of luck Tom Cribbin we need our team in div 3 but please lets look at moving our future forward.

Djkray (Dublin) - Posts: 152 - 31/03/2016 21:55:29    1839923

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I am surprised by the negativity on a weekend when we need a big result. To get the facts straight in 2014 we were in D1 and lost all our games. We actually won 2 games in D2 in 2015. Let's deal with Longford first.

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 450 - 01/04/2016 08:07:55    1839929

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I wouldn't try change anything until there is serious change in the top table and the way things are run

There needs to be a very definite plan put in place on how to develop players from Age 11 through to minor in football and hurling, You cannot have a plan for one without the other.
The approach of the coaching and games in the county has to change. There doesn't seem to be any club input into what is being done, despite clubs contributing €1000 per year (well some pay it). Other counties seem have planning seminars involving clubs to decide the approach for eg county squads, underage coaching and competitions, camps, schools coaching

manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 01/04/2016 09:30:51    1839950

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manfromdelmonte problem is there isn't any forward thinking young people prepared to push their way into the top table. As a result the top table keeps rotating roles.

Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 775 - 01/04/2016 12:48:09    1840109

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any comment smiler? another deluded westmeath football supporter who thinks we are a quality team because meath took their eye off the ball big time and felt the game was over, i hope this will make people go out and support our hurlers this saturday and make the county board give westmeath hurling more respect

westmeath2015 (Westmeath) - Posts: 153 - 03/04/2016 15:57:06    1840842

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