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Non-Gaa Forum - 3 Like(s)
An open post, possibly as a future topic.

Tags like Left of Center, Far Right, Center Left, Far Left, liberal conservatives, etc, etc. are no more than a smoke screen, conveniently put in place to confuse and keep people's minds busy and away from things that really matter, for example LPT.

LPT small print inc. Is changing at speed. RTE radio one, today with Claire Byrne, Katie Claire head of Local Property Tax Branch with Revenue on making an LPT return. It's more than interesting and it's worth a play back.

supersub15 (National) - 30/10/2025 13:03:04

Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To supersub15:  "An open post, possibly as a future topic.

Tags like Left of Center, Far Right, Center Left, Far Left, liberal conservatives, etc, etc. are no more than a smoke screen, conveniently put in place to confuse and keep people's minds busy and away from things that really matter, for example LPT.

LPT small print inc. Is changing at speed. RTE radio one, today with Claire Byrne, Katie Claire head of Local Property Tax Branch with Revenue on making an LPT return. It's more than interesting and it's worth a play back."
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Seanfan (National) - 30/10/2025 16:31:21

Club Football Championships - General Discussion - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Lockjaw:  "It was fantastic to see the scenes between the Tyrone and Armagh champions. Summed up our great organisation. It would be difficult to explain those scenes to an outsider. I suppose they'd consider us mad Irish folk, and in a way they'd be right! :D

Really think the GAA/RTE are missing a trick. There should be a Friday night preview show of all the upcoming provincial club action, plus a comprehensive Sunday night highlights show.

I remember Dara O'Cinnéide had a great Friday night programme some years ago. But I suppose that was the TG4 lads showing a bit of gumption. Only for them!"
RTE would rather tell us all about British soccer matches and not forgetting the rugby of course.

Tirchonaill1 (National) - 30/10/2025 13:03:08

Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To t.g:  "Dessie only failed to score from play in one game surely worth a call up for Galway?"
Been down that road before...
He's not up to it at that level..

Galwaymaster9 (National) - 30/10/2025 13:36:37

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To galwayford:  "SF are a fairly broad church. From the Pro life Martin McGuinness, and Pearse Doherty to the extreme left."
Doherty isn't extreme left

Cumann1 (National) - 30/10/2025 17:02:44

Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To OverTheHill85:  "A crack at teams of the year:
Senior
1. Jason Daly
2. Peter Murray
3. Danny Woods
4. David Giles
5. Joe Moran
6. Charlie Drumm
7. Ciaran Nolan
8. Shane Allen
9. Johnny Lynam
10. Peter Clarke
11. Kevin O'Sullivan
12. Brian Cooney
13. Luke Loughlin
14. Robbie Forde
15. Tom Tuite

Intermediate
1. Kevin Fagan
2. Matty Scully
3. Stephen McGonagle
4. Taylor Slevin
5. Tom Kelleher
6. Daniel Scahill
7. Matthew Whittaker
8. Gavin Delaney
9. Eoghan McCabe
10. Jack Duncan
11. Fred Kelleher
12. Tom Bourke
13. Brandon Kelly
14. Ronan Wallace
15. Kealen Connell"
1. Trevor Martin
2. Peter Murray
3. Charlie Drumm
4. David Giles
5. Eoghan Bracken
6. Joe Moran
7. Eoin O'Brien
8. Brian Cooney
9. Johnny Lynam/ Shane Ormsby
10. Sami Clarke/Morgan Gavigan
11. Ger Leech/ Aidan Burke
12. Kevin O'Sullivan
13. Luke Loughlin
14. John Heslin/ Dean mcnicholas
15. Dean Moore/Ian Kilmartin/Robbie Forde

Honourable mentions:
Dillon Mattews
Michael Monoaghan
Conor Cosgrave
Dara O'Keefe
Brian Guerin

Player of the Championship: Kevin O'Sullivan with Eoin O'brien and Luke not far behind
Young player of the year: Shane Ormsby with Tadhg Baker the Cillian Plunkett

Intermediate
1. Kevin Fagan
2. Matty Scully/Taylor Slevin - either of them didnt play corner however
3. Cathal Tighe/ Liam O'reilly/Ben Traynor, a toss up
4. Steven Mcgonagle
5. James Madden/Matthew Gunning
6. Daniel Scahill/Tom Kelleher
7. Matthew Whittaker
8. Gavin Delaney
9. Eoghan McCabe
10. Jack Duncan
11. Fred Kellegher/Finbar Coyne
12. Conor Mccrossan/ Tom Bourke
13. Brandon Kelly
14. Ronan Wallace/Tom Molloy
15. Kealen Connell

Honourable Mentions:
Cian Lee
Noel O'reilly
Sam Duncan
Luke Tynan
Baidu Sayeh
Brian Finnerty
Paul Keegan

Player of the year: Matthew Whitaker with Brandon Kelly in 2nd and Wallace because of scoring in 3rd

Young Player of the Year: A toss between Connell, Slevin and Duncan

PowellJohn3 (National) - 30/10/2025 16:58:32

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Bizarre logic. From a traditional Irish nationalist/republican stance ALL of those things are as wrong now as they were in 1969. Or 1916 for that matter."
Do you still use quills ?

Seanfan (National) - 30/10/2025 16:30:10

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "McGuinness was there when they changed sides on that too. There is not one single thing on which SF now have same position as in mid 1980s: abortion, EU, mass immigration, accepting the 6 county state, local democracy, opposition to domination by large multinationals. All turned on their head."
Same as countless other parties in countless areas. And mid 80s is multiple generations ago. its a completely different time/era

KillingFields (National) - 30/10/2025 15:56:28

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Bizarre logic. From a traditional Irish nationalist/republican stance ALL of those things are as wrong now as they were in 1969. Or 1916 for that matter."
It's 2025 lad. No party can be the same way it was 40 years ago never mind 100 years ago. Especially on some of the things you mentioned.

TheFlaker (National) - 30/10/2025 15:50:48

Wexford Club Hurling 2025 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Formertownie:  "I understand the pattetns of betting my point is even at 40/1 would there be many that would back them . I d have thought 20/1 be more realistic . 9/1 for leinster might be worth small punt id ve exoected 5/1 or 6 /1
I m just saying from bookies to backers they are perceived as no hopers or very little hope .
For the record i do think they could do well but need everyone firing on each day they play . I think theyxare definitely more settled, professional and vmcinsustent since Barry took more central/pivotal role with his influence"
Ballyhale would beat them out the gate.

countyman2022 (National) - 30/10/2025 14:51:14

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To BarneyGrant:  "McGuinness was there when they changed sides on that too. There is not one single thing on which SF now have same position as in mid 1980s: abortion, EU, mass immigration, accepting the 6 county state, local democracy, opposition to domination by large multinationals. All turned on their head."
Eh why would any person/ party/ company think the same way they would have thought 40 years ago?

TheFlaker (National) - 30/10/2025 14:30:21

Wexford Club Hurling 2025 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Formertownie:  "St Martins 40/1 tp win all ireland club . Where i did nt expect a short price that kinda took me by surprise . Na fianna 8/1 did bt see any odds for their head to head match or outright leinster odds . .
They are the best in wexford by good bit bar maybe rathnure but still ahead of them fairly comfortably. . What does that say about our club championship and hurling in general in outsiders eyes . Bearing in mind Bookies rarely get it wrong ."
Has been a long time since I had anything other than just the very occasional bet, but I know enough about it to know that the reason St. Martin's are such long odds for the All-Ireland compared to Na Fianna is that the bookies don't expect them to beat Na Fianna in the first place. Never mind go on from there and beat everybody else too.

If the odds are 8/1 and 40/1 for the All-Ireland, I'd expect the match betting odds (when released, probably sometime next week) to be something like 1/3 Na Fianna and 5/2 St. Martin's.

There's something similar in Munster. Na Piarsaigh are 22/1 to win the All-Ireland, which might seem like long odds for a Limerick club. But they're up against Ballygunner in the first round there, and Ballygunner are 11/5 favourites for the All-Ireland. Match odds for that one are 2/5 Ballygunner and 9/4 Na Piarsaigh.

Incidentally, odds for Leinster, according to Paddy Power:
Ballyhale Shamrocks - 4/5
Na Fianna - 5/2
Kilcormac Killoughey - 9/2
St. Martin's - 9/1
Castletown Geoghegan - 22/1
Naas - 25/1
Mount Leinster Rangers - 40/1
Clough Ballacolla - 40/1

Pikeman96 (National) - 30/10/2025 13:47:03

Club Football Championships - General Discussion - 1 Like(s)
It was fantastic to see the scenes between the Tyrone and Armagh champions. Summed up our great organisation. It would be difficult to explain those scenes to an outsider. I suppose they'd consider us mad Irish folk, and in a way they'd be right! :D

Really think the GAA/RTE are missing a trick. There should be a Friday night preview show of all the upcoming provincial club action, plus a comprehensive Sunday night highlights show.

I remember Dara O'Cinnéide had a great Friday night programme some years ago. But I suppose that was the TG4 lads showing a bit of gumption. Only for them!

Lockjaw (National) - 30/10/2025 09:14:21

Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To jm25:  "That's not what I asked. The last final I seen TG4 televise was the Jonny Maher final of 2012.

They may have shown one in following years cant remember but haven't had coverage of final since 2020 even when in athenry. With that in mind what logic makes you think it would have been shown Sunday over na piarsaigh v ballygunner"
I think you're right. 2012 might have been the last one live on TG4. Loughrea lost 6 finals in 11 seasons 2003-2013, and it would have been 7 only for the refereeing shenanigans of 2006. No wonder Johnny Maher was losing the rag by 2012.

Pope_Benedict (National) - 30/10/2025 12:33:00

Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)

Replying To KillingFields:  "soc dems are not far left. they are a left wing but are more centre left than far left.
labour hasnt been far left for a long time. and are not inconsequential.
FF nor FG are left of centre. perhaps in some areas but theyre primarily centre right as they would be liberal-conservatives, be quite Christian-democratic and pro-European"
Fine Gael, Christian democrat. They have legalised contraception, Divorce, Same Sex marriage and Abortion when in power. They also gave us Leo Varadkar and Alan Shatter. Hardly a party friendly to Irish Catholic culture and morals.

galwayford (National) - 30/10/2025 12:11:39

New Rules - Applied To Underage - 1 Like(s)

Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Had a recent discussion on how many of the new rules should be transferred into underage football.
General consensus was not many.

Two-point score: a non runner on shortened pitches - not going to be many at underage anyway

Kick-outs: The kick-out must travel beyond the 40-meter arc. - not a runner, especially during schools winter football

Throw-ins: The start of each half will feature a 1v1 throw-in, where one player from each team contests the ball. - OK to implement

Player positioning: Teams must have at least three outfield players on the opposition's side of the half-way line during play. - ok to implement - refs will have to up their game as the lineman cant be trusted

Solo and GO - not needed below U14 - ok after

Restrictions on goalkeeper - should not be implemented until after U16, otherwise no one will want to play in goal.

Penalties and discipline
Cynical fouls: A black card and a penalty will be awarded for deliberately denying a goal-scoring opportunity. - fine

Team officials: Disruptive conduct by team officials is penalized with a free kick awarded to the opposition on the 13-meter line. - badly wanted - should be extended to parents mouthing off also

Neutral officials: Neutral sideline officials can now report foul play, and referees can issue black cards for jersey-pulling in goal-scoring situations. - no one will want to be a corner back now


Timekeeping
Public Clock and Hooter: A public clock and hooter system is being implemented to improve timekeeping and address concerns about time-wasting. - clock will be small - hooter not an issue


New rules worth trying at underage

Restriction on handpassing - U8 (max 1), U10 (max 1), U12 (max 2), U14 (max 2), U16 (max 3), U18 (max 4), U20 (max 5).
Dissent -
U8. 10 & U12 (any type - opposition, ref etc) - 10min off,
U14 & 16 - 20m free (plus 10min in bin for dissent to ref),
U18 & U20 - 20m free (for any dissent)"
I would definitely be in favour of the dissent rules you mention.
If it's nipped in the bud early with youngsters, there won't be so many problems with it down the line.

I coach u8s, and in our training games I come down heavily on it. The penny still hasn't dropped for one or two, but they'll get there!

Lockjaw (National) - 30/10/2025 12:01:49

New Rules - Applied To Underage - 1 Like(s)
Had a recent discussion on how many of the new rules should be transferred into underage football.
General consensus was not many.

Two-point score: a non runner on shortened pitches - not going to be many at underage anyway

Kick-outs: The kick-out must travel beyond the 40-meter arc. - not a runner, especially during schools winter football

Throw-ins: The start of each half will feature a 1v1 throw-in, where one player from each team contests the ball. - OK to implement

Player positioning: Teams must have at least three outfield players on the opposition's side of the half-way line during play. - ok to implement - refs will have to up their game as the lineman cant be trusted

Solo and GO - not needed below U14 - ok after

Restrictions on goalkeeper - should not be implemented until after U16, otherwise no one will want to play in goal.

Penalties and discipline
Cynical fouls: A black card and a penalty will be awarded for deliberately denying a goal-scoring opportunity. - fine

Team officials: Disruptive conduct by team officials is penalized with a free kick awarded to the opposition on the 13-meter line. - badly wanted - should be extended to parents mouthing off also

Neutral officials: Neutral sideline officials can now report foul play, and referees can issue black cards for jersey-pulling in goal-scoring situations. - no one will want to be a corner back now


Timekeeping
Public Clock and Hooter: A public clock and hooter system is being implemented to improve timekeeping and address concerns about time-wasting. - clock will be small - hooter not an issue


New rules worth trying at underage

Restriction on handpassing - U8 (max 1), U10 (max 1), U12 (max 2), U14 (max 2), U16 (max 3), U18 (max 4), U20 (max 5).
Dissent -
U8. 10 & U12 (any type - opposition, ref etc) - 10min off,
U14 & 16 - 20m free (plus 10min in bin for dissent to ref),
U18 & U20 - 20m free (for any dissent)

tirawleybaron (National) - 30/10/2025 11:53:26

Name Your Best 15 Gaa Players Over The Past 40 Years - 1 Like(s)

Replying To FullOfPorter:  "To have no Galway player in the starting 15 or even the next 6 subs and to have two Mayo players is recency plus proximity bias :D"
The usual general critisism - name the player(s) that should be dropped for all these great Galway lads.

The Galway team of 1998 - came from no where that year and were done by 2002.

In no estimation of greatness does having 3 or 4 good years make you one of the greatest players of a 40 year period.

tirawleybaron (National) - 30/10/2025 11:32:40

Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Dessie only failed to score from play in one game surely worth a call up for Galway?

t.g (National) - 30/10/2025 10:05:00