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Monaghan GAA thread - 7 Like(s)
Replying To veterngaa: "Easy win today for the Blues! In 2nd gear without McElwain, McCarthy , o'toole and Sherlock! McManus never got a sniff of it… big boy stuff .. clontibret the talk of the county in the group stages!!!" How do yous do it Vetern?? Thankfully yous were able to find some replacements around Knocktallon, Ballinode, Scotstown and Tydavnet, and of course Currin. Yous truly are miracle workers!
HB245 (National) - 13/10/2025 16:37:48
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Non-Gaa Forum - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "Why have you put woke and lefty in the same sentence? Not getting onto you, genuinely just curious, but it's something that annoys me a little. Leftwing means politically, economically and socially you are left of centre, as in on the workers/less privileged members of society's side. The term has nothing to do with subjects like race, religion, gender, perceived gender or any of the other 15 minutes of fame topics that people seem to think are so important to a country since social media became a thing." I agree there's a huge difference between a Lefty and a Woke person. A lefty is your typical tree hugger that cares about the environment for example, a typical harmless type. Might go to a protest here and there to stop some big shopping center being built in an area of natural beauty for example. A Woke person seems to be far more aggressive and non negotiable in their stances usually involving defining genders, and such things. Just what I noticed.
SouthGalway (National) - 13/10/2025 17:24:42
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Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To WanPintWin: "We need to spread the hurling gospel in Galway. The more lads with hurls in the their hands the better for the county team. Rather than taking shots at clubs west of the Corrib who have work doubly hard to keep hurling going, there should be more done to help the development of young talented hurlers in those areas.
As was mentioned, Pearse Stadium gives a better chance for young lads from the other side of the county to see a couple of cracking matches.
It's an effort to try something different, and as was mentioned it ensures a lot more people get a seat in the stand. Let's give it a chance, rather than sticking to the safe status quo all the time." What's stopping them going to the final in there? Semi's doesn't have to be...
BigBàsMan (National) - 13/10/2025 16:27:15
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Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "I think this 'Athenry atmosphere' thing is a figment of the imagination. A flattish terrace, coupled with a tiny stand, that you'd need to be a vip to get into. Poorish viewing vantage points all around, especially when packed out for semis and finals. Doubly disastrous then in inclement weather conditions.
." Whatever about athenry atmosphere there will be absolutely ZERO atmosphere in PS.
BigBàsMan (National) - 13/10/2025 21:00:53
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To blacklion1: "Heard that Jim McGuiness was down with Leitrim Gaels 3 weeks ago. He was also down last year aswel." You'd have to give SoH every chance so on that basis. He couldn't combat the Kerry kicking game earlier in the year and SoH are very potent from midfield up. Witch-doctors all over the country these days…..
Boxtyeater (National) - 13/10/2025 21:48:41
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Mayo GAA Thread - 1 Like(s)
Ah bless, Mayo are learning what its like to lose players to other sports
Football's been the only show in town and Mayo have taken advantage (or haven't, depending on your perspective) of that for long enough
PressureKick (National) - 14/10/2025 11:39:05
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To slayer: "I disagree Zinny. I thought Viking66 got it pretty spot on. Perhaps it is you who has let yourself down by adding the 'racist' part to your post? You also did this by adding the word 'right' in close proximity. To your credit you don't say 'far right'.
But again you are taking us back to the point where asking questions is deemed racist and I do not think that is fair. Suggesting people who don't look like us are the reasons people on the right ask questions is bizarre and in my opinion very lazy thinking.
As for going the Nazi route - when anyone invokes that, I think they've lost the argument." I agree with you but I see the point zinny is making too. It's extremely easy to scapegoat "the foreigners" when our own ruling class have created or contributed to the social issues we're facing.
My original point was about having a reasonable conversation about immigration. It has already descended into accusations of racism.
Doylerwex (National) - 14/10/2025 11:03:00
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To zinny: "It doesn't offend me but I think you have let yourself down with this one.
Migrants globally could be broken down into two categories, Economic and those fleeing war and persecution. Those who are economic migrants while claiming to be the latter as a stain on the process and are making it harder globally for those who genuinely need help. I guess there is a third which are in the shadows and that is the slave/sex market which a bit like drugs wouldn't exist if the punter didn't but as with drugs the users seem very quick to absolve themselves of any blame for the problem.
In Ireland the facts speak for themselves and the vast majority of the migrants here are economic migrants, asylum seekers accounted for in 2023 less then 5% of all applications for entry into Ireland. Why do economic migrants chose to come to Ireland - all legally - its because they see opportunities in Ireland. However in your point 2, you do not trust these people. That is despite the fact that annually thousands of Irish people leave this country as economic migrants and head to other countries - what you are saying is that these Irish people should not be trusted in these countries. So you don't trust economic migrants even though they are essential to the workplace.
In your third point you have allowed yourself to slip into the right and I would say racist way of thinking. There seems to be an train of though that cultural assimilation should happen at the border and that a migrants should throw off their family's culture immediately and head off down to the pub for a few pints of Guinness. Yet when Irish people go abroad they are allowed wear their cultural badge with pride. Gaelic Games, the language, dancing etc. all celebrated around the world in places where the Irish as a speck of dust in comparison to the local culture - why is it that someone who comes to Ireland should suddenly need to forget their culture, language and religion because they are a minority? Some will integrate faster than others, some may never integrate but thats their choice. Your paragraph three is exactly what was used by Natzies to persecute the Jews - they are not one of us, they are different, they have a different religion,. In case you are thinking you are only referring to new arrivals, there have been Muslim and Jewish people in Ireland long before this recent wave of migration so where will people stop, is it just the new people that should give up their religion or should all the minorities do it.
So in 2023 if less than 5% of all the applications to enter the country were for asylum seekers why is there such a big deal being made about it - the answer to that is simple - they do not look like us. That makes them an easy target and once they have become the target all people who do not look like us become the target.
Just one final thought, it is not the fault of those people fleeing persecution that there is a housing crises in Ireland. Ireland was never a colonizer, it never started a war or influenced regime change so why do we have to burden ourselves with the results caused by others, I guess the answer to that depends on what each individual sees as the values they themselves believe in." A couple of observations. Although numbers are relatively small overall, the numbers can be significant relative to the towns the government has placed them in. In an ideal world that shouldn't be an issue but for the realities of social cohesion people have better avenues for assimilation, services and opportunities in large urban areas. Expecting small towns like Lisdoonvarna, which have no industry apart from a seasonal tourist trade and small scale agriculture, the responsibility of integration of asylum seekers is unfair on both the international protection applicants and the local area. Absolutely bonkers policy.
Your last paragraph is important. Most of the people fleeing for international protection or even some economic migrants, would not have to leave their countries if they were safer places or not reduced to basket cases. Most people want to stay and settle in their homeland. That is universal across all people regardless of religion or colour. People coming to Europe from Libya, Syria, Afghanistan etc are a direct result of US and Nato military interventions in those countries with no regard to the future consequences. We now have pick up the pieces while the US is on the other side of the Atlantic.
FullOfPorter (National) - 14/10/2025 10:40:12
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To SouthGalway: "I agree there's a huge difference between a Lefty and a Woke person. A lefty is your typical tree hugger that cares about the environment for example, a typical harmless type. Might go to a protest here and there to stop some big shopping center being built in an area of natural beauty for example. A Woke person seems to be far more aggressive and non negotiable in their stances usually involving defining genders, and such things. Just what I noticed." What I would consider left is someone who believes in strong workers rights, a redistribution of wealth, universal health care and strong public services funded through taxation. And possibly that would include someone who cares about the environment as our own health is absolutely linked to the quality of that environment.
Stuff to do with gender identity etc is on a liberal-conservative spectrum.
FullOfPorter (National) - 14/10/2025 10:20:30
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To yew_tree: "The problem these days is everyone has to have a label. To me the extreme left and right are both nuts. Can someone have so called left leaning view on some matters and right on others? In other words the centre? To me this sensible position seems to have been eroded away." I couldn't agree more, it is the reason these two groups have turned social media into a cesspit. Thankfully the vast majority of Irish people still hold the centre ground but are not as vocal in their views.
tireoghainabu (National) - 14/10/2025 09:55:49
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "I think this 'Athenry atmosphere' thing is a figment of the imagination. A flattish terrace, coupled with a tiny stand, that you'd need to be a vip to get into. Poorish viewing vantage points all around, especially when packed out for semis and finals. Doubly disastrous then in inclement weather conditions.
." I don't think any hurling fan would object to developing the facilities in Athenry , it still remains the premier venue for top class hurling in the County.
Lets not forget the players in this discussion- I think if you surveyed them , Pretty sure that there would be an overwhelming majority in favour of Athenry.
Anyways we are where we are - lets hope for two cracking games on Saturday .
My Prediction:
St Thomas's v Loughrea Final
LostforWords (National) - 14/10/2025 09:20:59
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Name Your Best 15 Gaa Players Over The Past 40 Years - 1 Like(s)
Lee Keegan is not better than either Seán óg de Paor or Declan Meehan!
The_DOC (National) - 14/10/2025 09:01:37
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Dublin Hurling - 1 Like(s)
Replying To ExiledInWex: "How were Na Fianna 7/4?
That a joke?" No idea. Crokes were favourites from start of championship and oddsmakers too lazy to actually think about it. As were most punters obviously!
Crokes entire game plan seemed to be to restrict the NF goal threat and hope for a Hail Mary from Hayes or Considine. Both went off before the end and they never really looked liked scoring a goal. Once dam broke there was no coming back.
Looking at likely contenders for AI I would give NF a reasonable chance of retaining it. On opposite side of Leinster draw to Kilkenny and Offaly winners. I see Sars looking good to retain Cork despite my being assured by Cork people (not Sars ones) that Sars won a soft county last year and that a Dublin team would never beat a proper Cork side like the Glen,,,,
I'll leave that one there.
BarneyGrant (National) - 14/10/2025 08:25:58
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To zinny: "It doesn't offend me but I think you have let yourself down with this one.
Migrants globally could be broken down into two categories, Economic and those fleeing war and persecution. Those who are economic migrants while claiming to be the latter as a stain on the process and are making it harder globally for those who genuinely need help. I guess there is a third which are in the shadows and that is the slave/sex market which a bit like drugs wouldn't exist if the punter didn't but as with drugs the users seem very quick to absolve themselves of any blame for the problem.
In Ireland the facts speak for themselves and the vast majority of the migrants here are economic migrants, asylum seekers accounted for in 2023 less then 5% of all applications for entry into Ireland. Why do economic migrants chose to come to Ireland - all legally - its because they see opportunities in Ireland. However in your point 2, you do not trust these people. That is despite the fact that annually thousands of Irish people leave this country as economic migrants and head to other countries - what you are saying is that these Irish people should not be trusted in these countries. So you don't trust economic migrants even though they are essential to the workplace.
In your third point you have allowed yourself to slip into the right and I would say racist way of thinking. There seems to be an train of though that cultural assimilation should happen at the border and that a migrants should throw off their family's culture immediately and head off down to the pub for a few pints of Guinness. Yet when Irish people go abroad they are allowed wear their cultural badge with pride. Gaelic Games, the language, dancing etc. all celebrated around the world in places where the Irish as a speck of dust in comparison to the local culture - why is it that someone who comes to Ireland should suddenly need to forget their culture, language and religion because they are a minority? Some will integrate faster than others, some may never integrate but thats their choice. Your paragraph three is exactly what was used by Natzies to persecute the Jews - they are not one of us, they are different, they have a different religion,. In case you are thinking you are only referring to new arrivals, there have been Muslim and Jewish people in Ireland long before this recent wave of migration so where will people stop, is it just the new people that should give up their religion or should all the minorities do it.
So in 2023 if less than 5% of all the applications to enter the country were for asylum seekers why is there such a big deal being made about it - the answer to that is simple - they do not look like us. That makes them an easy target and once they have become the target all people who do not look like us become the target.
Just one final thought, it is not the fault of those people fleeing persecution that there is a housing crises in Ireland. Ireland was never a colonizer, it never started a war or influenced regime change so why do we have to burden ourselves with the results caused by others, I guess the answer to that depends on what each individual sees as the values they themselves believe in." I disagree Zinny. I thought Viking66 got it pretty spot on. Perhaps it is you who has let yourself down by adding the 'racist' part to your post? You also did this by adding the word 'right' in close proximity. To your credit you don't say 'far right'.
But again you are taking us back to the point where asking questions is deemed racist and I do not think that is fair. Suggesting people who don't look like us are the reasons people on the right ask questions is bizarre and in my opinion very lazy thinking.
As for going the Nazi route - when anyone invokes that, I think they've lost the argument.
slayer (National) - 14/10/2025 08:18:21
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
The problem these days is everyone has to have a label. To me the extreme left and right are both nuts. Can someone have so called left leaning view on some matters and right on others? In other words the centre? To me this sensible position seems to have been eroded away.
yew_tree (National) - 14/10/2025 07:06:49
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Club Football Championships - General Discussion - 1 Like(s)
Replying To IamADragon: "The Cavan and Meath finals were both on yesterday. Would have made much more sense for TG4 to show one of those. Both countries with a much deeper history in football than Antrim." What has history got to with it?
Viking66 (National) - 13/10/2025 21:53:33
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Doylerwex: "It think the west in general would do well to properly define the term racism before throwing it around willy nilly.
Is there a large cohort of people in Ireland who wish ill will upon a particular ethnic group?
Discriminatory or distrustful perhaps. Racism is a very serious accusation and not always used in the proper context.
Wanting to have a reasonable conversation about immigration is not racist for example." No it's not but local groups who initially seem to have genuine fears about size of receiving town, infratructure, services etc, which i think is totally legitimate, but then allow banners such as Get Them Out at the front of their protest do themselves no favours. The slogan Get Them Out is absolutely laced with racism and hate and a couple of steps off a mob with pitchforks and torches. However most people aren't hate filled. A big issue is it can be very easy to scroll on the phone or computer reading misleading and false articles about people they've never had a conversation with. Unfortunatley a lot of the concerned locals groups get hijacked by a few loud mouths who have a right wing agenda. Immigrants themselves aren't a problem, it's the government handling of it that is.
FullOfPorter (National) - 13/10/2025 14:38:55
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Club Football Championships - General Discussion - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Saynothing: "I was only to glad to watch the Antrim final, football doesn't revolve around Dublin, Kerry, Mayo or other top county club teams." The Cavan and Meath finals were both on yesterday. Would have made much more sense for TG4 to show one of those. Both countries with a much deeper history in football than Antrim.
IamADragon (National) - 13/10/2025 17:24:51
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To LostforWords: "While acknowledging the hard work that goes into promoting the game .....bringing those young lads to Athenry for the games would be far more beneficial .
Take for example the young followers of Moycullen who never play a senior hurling Championship game outside of PS , open to correction on that one. Its not their fault I'm sure , but why not let them play championship in Athenry - far better chance of enhancing the Gospel there than in a stadium that lacks atmosphere and gives everyone a logistical nightmare." I think this 'Athenry atmosphere' thing is a figment of the imagination. A flattish terrace, coupled with a tiny stand, that you'd need to be a vip to get into. Poorish viewing vantage points all around, especially when packed out for semis and finals. Doubly disastrous then in inclement weather conditions.
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Pope_Benedict (National) - 13/10/2025 17:17:30
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "I am not some woke leftie who wants to let everyone come to Ireland regardless of their past. It's impossible to have a reasoned debate on this." Why have you put woke and lefty in the same sentence? Not getting onto you, genuinely just curious, but it's something that annoys me a little. Leftwing means politically, economically and socially you are left of centre, as in on the workers/less privileged members of society's side. The term has nothing to do with subjects like race, religion, gender, perceived gender or any of the other 15 minutes of fame topics that people seem to think are so important to a country since social media became a thing.
Viking66 (National) - 13/10/2025 16:01:37
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