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Newbie to GAA - pointer needed

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Hi!

Hope you're all well!

Am just starting to enjoy the GAA coverage on Sky - understand the basic rules, scoring etc., but am just wondering if someone could briefly explain when it's felt that a point will suffice from any given attack, and when the attacking team's thoughts move to more of a 'if we don't score a goal here, then it's a chance missed' ...

Hope this makes sense ...

Dave

DaveCoram (UK) - Posts: 1 - 08/08/2017 11:49:50    2030900

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It'll be a while before Sky gets its head around these issues, but in the very broadest of terms:

1. As in soccer, teams will set up to defend their goal. An attacking team has to beat defenders, shoot on target and then beat the keeper. This requires possession right into the opponents goal.

2. With accurate point kickers, attacking teams will look to work space in their opponent's third and kick points from distance. This can (not always ) be easier to find,and is often considered (if successful) more efficient use of possession.

3. Unlike soccer (when the only score available is a goal) in Gaelic football going for goal and shooting wide is considered bad form as a point might still be available.

The old saying of "take your points and the goals will come" implies teams building a lead with points, stretching opponents who take more risks and thus leave space at the back.

Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 275 - 08/08/2017 12:12:04    2030918

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It's like deciding in rugby whether to kick the penalty or go for a try.

1. What are the chances of each option succeeding? If a point is certain, then the chances of a goal would need to be better than 1 in 3.
2. If you are one on one with the goalie, go for a goal. Goal attempts are usually harder for a goalie to stop in hurling than in football???
3. If you have an edge in numbers of forwards over backs, or a mismatch in height or speed you might try to manufacture a goal chance.
4. If you are losing by more than 1 point, especially late in the game, you would be tempted to go for a goal.
5 If you win, you made the right decision; if you miss a goal chance and lose by a point, you will have to listen to all the 'experts'.

tommy58 (Dublin) - Posts: 159 - 08/08/2017 19:57:18    2031270

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You are probably asking this question on the wrong county forum- we are not great for goals...
Tyrone have a mantra 'stop goals, get goals'. They seem to start each attack with the aim of building a goal chance by creating overlapping runners. If its not on then they work a 25-30 metre point chance. It suits the aerobic fitness and pace levels. Dublin do likewise with their running game but will take low percentage goal shots more often as they are used to dominating posession.
That contrasts with teams like kerry and the armagh team of 15 years ago who build their goal chances on long ball delivered into powerful inside forwards supported by quality finishers. This relies on accurate delivery from 40-50 metres, and slick layoffs. Kerry make a virtue of kicking points from long distance. It is beautiful to watch but still only counts for a point.
Overall the motivation to go for goal is as much about game circumstance as the immediate chance of success i.e when a team is looking to up the pressure, kill off the game, or claw back a deficit they will drive more for goals

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 687 - 08/08/2017 21:08:33    2031303

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