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Lads whats your opinion on a gaa officals claims that development squad players are been encouraged to transfer to bigger teams to stay on county squads. I was involved with development teams a few years back and never witnessed this happening. Surely you don't have to be on a "BIG TEAM" to be a county player

Hometeam (Kildare) - Posts: 25 - 15/05/2013 20:47:00    1384796

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I wouldn't read too much into really. The current squad has a number of players from small clubs (e.g. Conway, Bolton, both Kellys) so I don't think there is any truth in it.

cilldaraman (Kildare) - Posts: 203 - 16/05/2013 08:18:32    1384870

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It is true.. From under 14 upwards i was part of development squads and have played all the way up to county under21 level. I along with other players were constantley being asked to transfer to bigger clubs. In one case a sarsfields official actually came to my house about it.. He was refused entrance into my house and told where to go. So poaching does definatley go on and to me sarsfields are the biggest offenders

cilldara14 (Kildare) - Posts: 254 - 16/05/2013 09:31:34    1384905

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It definitely goes on and it should be a priority of Kildare GAA to try and stamp it out. I know of a few players who have gone from Kill to Naas in recent times. We do not want a situation where the strong get stronger and the weak get weaker. That will do nothing for the development of the GAA in Kildare.

It's an extreme scenario but you might see smaller clubs display more of a reluctance to nominate players for county trials if the current situation of bigger clubs trying to entice their players continues.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 16/05/2013 10:08:28    1384924

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'It definitely goes on and it should be a priority of Kildare GAA to try and stamp it out. I know of a few players who have gone from Kill to Naas in recent times. We do not want a situation where the strong get stronger and the weak get weaker. That will do nothing for the development of the GAA in Kildare.''

Maybe these lads should have remained with Kill, because Naas did not get any stronger because of them, I'd say they became weaker as some of their own 'home grown' lost out.

naasmanxrhode (Offaly) - Posts: 38 - 16/05/2013 12:46:05    1385057

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I think you'l always get big clubs trying to poach players from smaller clubs to join them but I very much doubt if development squad mentors would get involved in this, what would be the reason?. For instance at minor level the lads will train almost exclusively with the county and there's plenty of people from smaller clubs involved in the development set up

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 426 - 16/05/2013 12:47:29    1385060

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I stand corrected so. Bad form from big clubs in my opinion. It wouldn't exactly boost the morale of the current players available to them if they are trying to bring in more.

cilldaraman (Kildare) - Posts: 203 - 16/05/2013 14:06:39    1385129

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the current minor team that played offaly had 12 division 1 players . 2 division 2 players nd 1 division 3 player, so does it help if your with a division 1 club ?, i dont see any division 4 players involved.

mickmoore (Kildare) - Posts: 326 - 16/05/2013 18:01:30    1385318

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naasmanxrhode
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Maybe these lads should have remained with Kill, because Naas did not get any stronger because of them, I'd say they became weaker as some of their own 'home grown' lost out.


More fool Naas then.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 16/05/2013 18:25:31    1385340

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@ hgzfxh. I was hoping to hear ur opinion on this. Ur usually on the ball on all things juvenile!!

Hometeam (Kildare) - Posts: 25 - 16/05/2013 21:00:39    1385447

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I agree small clubs should be protected from poaching by any bigger clubs. But there are situations where for various reasons that a smaller club cannot field a team at a certain age group. I was told by someone directly involved of one case this year where players from a small club wished to transfer due to an internal row within that club that prevented the players from playing football.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2966 - 17/05/2013 15:08:13    1385745

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It really says more about the player who is willing to leave his parish club in search of glory than the club who are looking to poach him.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3684 - 17/05/2013 16:03:57    1385783

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@hometeam thank you. Well it does go on, look at last year there was a lad on the minor panel from ellistown he applied for a transfer to towers, it got rejected so he sat out a full year of club football so his transfer could go through. I know of a few other quality minor players transferring clubs but that was more a case of family was affiliated with that club eg. ryan casey transferring from kevins to allenwood. But yes poaching does occur particularly from big town clubs but it happens in every county. But as @Daytona says it tells us a lot about the player

hgzfxh (Kildare) - Posts: 317 - 17/05/2013 17:17:41    1385858

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@hometeam thank you. Well it does go on, look at last year there was a lad on the minor panel from ellistown he applied for a transfer to towers, it got rejected so he sat out a full year of club football so his transfer could go through. I know of a few other quality minor players transferring clubs but that was more a case of family was affiliated with that club eg. ryan casey transferring from kevins to allenwood. But yes poaching does occur particularly from big town clubs but it happens in every county. But as @Daytona says it tells us a lot about the player

not even close to the true facts of the case

thelads (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 17/05/2013 19:50:48    1385954

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@thelads i know there was bullying in that case i heard but its a lad moving to a what was then senior club. i know naas get a few from outside naas

hgzfxh (Kildare) - Posts: 317 - 17/05/2013 20:11:48    1385968

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@thelads i know there was bullying in that case i heard but its a lad moving to a what was then senior club. i know naas get a few from outside naas

his uncles and grand father also played for towers and as you say there was stuff going on behind the scenes that made it impossible to .what would you sugest he do

thelads (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 17/05/2013 20:42:32    1385984

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its also poor form to single out this case when you know theres more to it than a lad wanting a move just to get to a senior club.

thelads (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 17/05/2013 20:52:44    1385997

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alright my bad. But im still not sure if its the club or the players pushing the move because a lot of lads would go to secondary school in the bigger towns. So they make friends and hang around in that town, or maybe they tasted success with their school and want more

hgzfxh (Kildare) - Posts: 317 - 18/05/2013 11:46:20    1386074

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The impression given by the Ardclough official in his interview in the Kildare Nationalist and here on HS is that poaching of players is going on wholesale. I think that is overstating the case. Anyway it's up to the County Board to ensure that all small clubs are protected and it's the responsibility of clubs to have proper structures in place themselves.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2966 - 18/05/2013 16:34:16    1386244

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This wrong alright.But if the Seniors set the tremd with SJ then theres no surprise.The legacy from last is that this sort of behaviour has been legitimised.

dubya (Kildare) - Posts: 423 - 19/05/2013 16:36:44    1386595

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