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Cian Reynolds

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The young man is transferring to Leitrim, very disappointing stuff. He is our of our brightest prospects and was probably frustrated at not getting an opportunity with Kildare as of yet. Personally I think he will regret this decision. First Conor Kenny and now Reynolds, its a worrying sign

Blackwater (Kildare) - Posts: 102 - 03/01/2013 11:23:01    1312975

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Posted this in another thread before this one was started.

Jinxie
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1312978 Whats the story on that young player joining Leitrim?

Seems a bit strange to Leave a county like Kildare for a weaker county unless theres a major standout reason?
It says in the arcticle that he's in Carlow IT, surely a commute home to Kildare at weekends is shorter than a trip to Leitrim.
Anyone know where he's playing his club football and if he is transferring club and residence also?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 03/01/2013 11:57:25    1312991

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Transferring under the parent rule. No need to transfer from his club (Athy).

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 03/01/2013 12:28:39    1313007

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He plays for Athy but his father played for Leitrim years ago before moving to Athy.

butters1990 (Kildare) - Posts: 262 - 03/01/2013 12:33:21    1313010

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This is what happens when you start bringing in footballers from other counties, ie Sean Johnston

Blackwater (Kildare) - Posts: 102 - 03/01/2013 12:40:03    1313013

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What way does the parentage rule work exactly.

If a parent has represented the "home" county at any level, can any subsequent children transfer, or do the codes (football/hurling/handball/camogie) have to match.
Also, do they have to have played championship, or senior, or will any grade or competition cover it?

Just seems a bit of a grey area which could be exploited if not carefully monitered.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 03/01/2013 13:58:36    1313085

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@blackwater never a more honest word. Will he still be playing with athy?

hgzfxh (Kildare) - Posts: 317 - 03/01/2013 14:08:18    1313089

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Thanks lads we need all the help we can get. Have to be honest I don't know much about the lad but if recent posts are anything to go by he sounds like a top player.

irishexpat30 (Leitrim) - Posts: 69 - 03/01/2013 14:16:25    1313098

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The parentage rule only applies to certain designated weaker counties. I dont think its likely to be abused as it will only be relevant for a small no of players and any rule that helps weaker counties like Leitrim should be welcomed. His chances of winning an all ireland haven't really increased with the move surely!

murof (Kildare) - Posts: 480 - 03/01/2013 14:22:43    1313108

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murof
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1313108 The parentage rule only applies to certain designated weaker counties. I dont think its likely to be abused as it will only be relevant for a small no of players and any rule that helps weaker counties like Leitrim should be welcomed. His chances of winning an all ireland haven't really increased with the move surely!

Is it definatly only for weaker counties? As far as I was aware Dublin use this to their advantage at the moment with the likes of Michael Deegan, who lives and plays club football in Meath.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 03/01/2013 14:51:26    1313129

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Didn't Niall Browne join Clare because his mother is from there and he still plays for Two Mile House.

butters1990 (Kildare) - Posts: 262 - 03/01/2013 16:14:01    1313203

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where is conor kenny gone?

Possom (Kildare) - Posts: 322 - 03/01/2013 16:37:42    1313223

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To play devil's advocate here for a minute - if the Kildare management saw the mooted talent in Reynolds, would they have not pulled out all the stops to have kept him with the county. After all; the lure of playing Division 1 football and potentially a crack at a provincial title would be enough to keep a lad at a bigger county if he were to feature in their plans.

That being said - despite what Geezer says to the contrary, I am not so sure that the panel is as open to lads playing form football as he intimates. Every year he takes on a couple of players but more as lip service than anything else - or at least this is how it appears to me.

RadioGAAGAA (Kildare) - Posts: 40 - 03/01/2013 16:42:36    1313229

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Jinxie
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Is it definatly only for weaker counties? As far as I was aware Dublin use this to their advantage at the moment with the likes of Michael Deegan, who lives and plays club football in Meath.


From what I remember the parent rule was brought in to help weaker counties, and these weaker counties were defined as ones that hadn't won a provincial title within the last ten years.

I suppose the Dubs would use the excuse that Deegan was born in Dublin and his father played for them, although if he never played for a club there, and has played all of his football in Meath then it should be pretty clear really, he's a Meathman.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3640 - 03/01/2013 17:58:49    1313277

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That parent rule has a much broader application. When it was introduced it was stated to be for County purposes to help weak counties by allowing them recruit unwanted players from strong counties whose parents were from the weak county.

It is being used for that, Niall Browne, Cian Reynolds but has also been used by a strong county to get club players for one of their clubs from a next door neighbour. So County borders are no longer a protection from preditors.

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 03/01/2013 19:33:31    1313319

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So there is definatly a grey area there which can be abused then.

The cian Reynolds may be an example of the rule being applied in the form it was intended for, but the parameters need to be much clearer in the future around other transfers or it will just become another excuse to allow clubs rob players.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 04/01/2013 09:16:27    1313441

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Jinxie
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So there is definatly a grey area there which can be abused then.

The cian Reynolds may be an example of the rule being applied in the form it was intended for, but the parameters need to be much clearer in the future around other transfers or it will just become another excuse to allow clubs rob players.


Jinxie: So funny ready the above post: I must share it with Offaly & Clonmore Harps !!!!!!!!!!!

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 04/01/2013 14:26:39    1313596

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1313596 Jinxie
County: Meath
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So there is definatly a grey area there which can be abused then.

The cian Reynolds may be an example of the rule being applied in the form it was intended for, but the parameters need to be much clearer in the future around other transfers or it will just become another excuse to allow clubs rob players.

Jinxie: So funny ready the above post: I must share it with Offaly & Clonmore Harps !!!!!!!!!!!


And while your at it why not share it around Ashbourne, ratoath, dunshauglin and 100's or clubs around the country that lie along county boundaries. Why you think Clonmore harps would be so exclusive to deserve special mention is not clear, but Im sure you have your personal reasons.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 04/01/2013 17:23:46    1313703

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No Jinx, have never even been in Clonmore, its just that I'm aware of a Meath club playing players from Co Offaly and using that rule (which was never intended to apply to cross border club) to get away with it.

I assume your mention of the Ashbourne etc area refers to their club players opting for the Dubs and I can only concur but I felt that you in Meath wanted it both ways !!!!

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 04/01/2013 17:42:30    1313709

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To be honest Leitrim have a better chance in Connacht this year meeting newyork then London/Sligo

Then it's either Galway or mayo in the final

Kildares chances of Leinster seem good but every year they et to a final and are overcome by Dublin or Meath

Then returning to the allireland qualifiers via the back door to a quarter or semi final

I wouldn't count on a Leinster medal this year I could predict a 91 reactance between the dubs and Meath especially after the allireland minor final last year

And on the parentage rule a player can transfer to another county if a parent hails from that county or even a grandparent the parent/grandparent may have never kicked a ball or took a shot with a hurl

Cian Reynolds is a welcome addition to the Leitrim panel but as with every team he will have to prove himself

Promotion to div3 should prove enough

Good luck to the lillies this year

I'm sure Cill droichead will win the senior county championship

94allstar (Leitrim) - Posts: 1737 - 04/01/2013 19:21:57    1313751

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