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From the outside looking in ye have serious ego problems in mayo ladies football. Not a great way for cora to end her mayo career but if what is coming out is true ye are better off

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 392 - 13/09/2018 15:32:26    2141486

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Replying To martinjoe:  "I am with the players who walked out and don't think it is a good idea to dismiss or stigmatise people for having feelings. Is doing so not a form of bullying?"
Managers have feelings too!! :)

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1182 - 13/09/2018 15:49:28    2141495

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Replying To martinjoe:  "I am with the players who walked out and don't think it is a good idea to dismiss or stigmatise people for having feelings. Is doing so not a form of bullying?"
Grow up, this is sport. Managers cannot be forced to pick certain players just to avoid hurting their feelings. The team is more important than any one player.

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 398 - 13/09/2018 23:07:21    2141582

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The greatest player ever to tog out in this Sport and other top players must clearly have been of the view that the set-up was not up to it. When such a player who is still head and shoulders above anyone else on the planet has issues, it is time for others to listen, learn and act. She was perfectly entitled to say no to what she saw as the charge of the light brigade. I have no issue with the board and management moving on with those who remain, but really believe that Mayo LF will be on a sharp downward path henceforth. Those who do remain will understandably be 100% behind the manager, sure they are getting to play in big games for their county, everyone's ultimate dream. The idea of being able to treat others poorly in the name of Sport is well and truly outdated, at least in the most successful counties.

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 413 - 14/09/2018 09:31:10    2141623

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All she had to do is come off the bench for a game or 2 and she would eventually make the starting team but she couldnt even do that..
Its how it works when your not around for a large part of the year, any player knows no matter how could you are there is a way you come back into a squad/team

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 327 - 14/09/2018 14:27:29    2141722

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Replying To martinjoe:  "The greatest player ever to tog out in this Sport and other top players must clearly have been of the view that the set-up was not up to it. When such a player who is still head and shoulders above anyone else on the planet has issues, it is time for others to listen, learn and act. She was perfectly entitled to say no to what she saw as the charge of the light brigade. I have no issue with the board and management moving on with those who remain, but really believe that Mayo LF will be on a sharp downward path henceforth. Those who do remain will understandably be 100% behind the manager, sure they are getting to play in big games for their county, everyone's ultimate dream. The idea of being able to treat others poorly in the name of Sport is well and truly outdated, at least in the most successful counties."
She is the greatest female player ever. She also failed a fitness test. If this statement wasn't true she would have come out to deny it. Rumours were started, management were spoken about horribly and it was implied that they did not care about player safety. Horrible accusations that were false . What management cared about was fitness and current form. No player is greater than the team and anyone who thinks differently should walk.

Well done to the ladies who stayed and put on their county jersey . They are an absolute credit to Mayo. They were the victims

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 880 - 14/09/2018 21:48:42    2141814

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Replying To martinjoe:  "The greatest player ever to tog out in this Sport and other top players must clearly have been of the view that the set-up was not up to it. When such a player who is still head and shoulders above anyone else on the planet has issues, it is time for others to listen, learn and act. She was perfectly entitled to say no to what she saw as the charge of the light brigade. I have no issue with the board and management moving on with those who remain, but really believe that Mayo LF will be on a sharp downward path henceforth. Those who do remain will understandably be 100% behind the manager, sure they are getting to play in big games for their county, everyone's ultimate dream. The idea of being able to treat others poorly in the name of Sport is well and truly outdated, at least in the most successful counties."
Martin, if we take everything that is being said at face value, it would appear that your star player went on the national broadcaster and was, shall we say circumspect, with the truth. The blood must have rushed to her head with her trip downunder and she's forgotten that no one player is more important than the team.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 2712 - 15/09/2018 04:52:58    2141840

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Cora is indeed the greatest but this has left a sour note. It's Ok for her to walk out because she is at the end of her career but many of the girls who left with her are in their prime....really is a mess that will set back mayo ladies football for years

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9825 - 15/09/2018 06:55:21    2141841

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This is juvenile stuff. Cora has been a great player, she has left a legacy but she is now left with egg on her face and the further this story escalates the worse it looks for her.

- first she got the hump and left after a disagreement with manager
- Then her clubmates left, you could put this down to loyalty to her (comfort in numbers)
- Then 4 more girls leave and a selector, but why? maybe they too felt loyalty to her - maybe it was because they felt there was no point continuing - maybe it was for personal reasons - or its possible a coup had formed and they felt pressurised to leave
- Then the remaining squad members reveal some of them had been contacted and encouraged to leave before cavan game so mayo could not field a team, so a coup has formed and this looks really bad.
- Then cora cites reason for leaving as "it was unhealthy and unsafe", this wasnt well thought out because the manager had to make a response to that to defend himself and his management team and he did, further to that the remaining squad make a statement to back him along with the county board.

Cora had only returned to squad before she left but its the other 11 girls that really let themselves, their team and their county down by walking out after training hard all year.

Ive seen some posts suggesting the county board should be ashamed of themselves for trying to suspend coras club from club championship. I think it was a clever move from them because they would have known it wouldnt stick but they probably wanted to make a stand to defend their manager. After all there was fairly strong accusations made against management which were obviously untrue. Its a pity because they could be in a final now

borisdblade (Westmeath) - Posts: 101 - 15/09/2018 16:47:37    2141884

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very good interview with Peter Leahy he was 100% right to set the record straight none of this hidding away it is plain to be seen that the players in question were wrong and dragged their club mates down with them leaving them with no choice but to withdraw plus could they not just accept their playing days were coming to an end and help settle in younger players I think they were very selfish and only out for themselves and not the good of the county so thank you Peter for letting us all know mayo ladies team will be the better for it

mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 178 - 15/09/2018 22:21:58    2141922

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I dont think that statement has done much to help the ladies who left the panel.

Very little detail.

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 392 - 18/09/2018 09:30:53    2142366

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So basically they make baseless accusations of player welfare issues, potentially tarnishing the reputation of the management involved, and then release a statement containing no examples of player welfare issues at all. Their club supported them and perhaps instigated this, therefore it seems the co.board were right to suspend the club a few weeks ago. They brought mayo ladies football into disrepute

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1081 - 18/09/2018 10:03:24    2142375

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Replying To borisdblade:  "This is juvenile stuff. Cora has been a great player, she has left a legacy but she is now left with egg on her face and the further this story escalates the worse it looks for her.

- first she got the hump and left after a disagreement with manager
- Then her clubmates left, you could put this down to loyalty to her (comfort in numbers)
- Then 4 more girls leave and a selector, but why? maybe they too felt loyalty to her - maybe it was because they felt there was no point continuing - maybe it was for personal reasons - or its possible a coup had formed and they felt pressurised to leave
- Then the remaining squad members reveal some of them had been contacted and encouraged to leave before cavan game so mayo could not field a team, so a coup has formed and this looks really bad.
- Then cora cites reason for leaving as "it was unhealthy and unsafe", this wasnt well thought out because the manager had to make a response to that to defend himself and his management team and he did, further to that the remaining squad make a statement to back him along with the county board.

Cora had only returned to squad before she left but its the other 11 girls that really let themselves, their team and their county down by walking out after training hard all year.

Ive seen some posts suggesting the county board should be ashamed of themselves for trying to suspend coras club from club championship. I think it was a clever move from them because they would have known it wouldnt stick but they probably wanted to make a stand to defend their manager. After all there was fairly strong accusations made against management which were obviously untrue. Its a pity because they could be in a final now"
very well said, the press conference by the players who walked out on their county didn't do a lot to help them. There comments don't add up and are not consistent, not a mention of player welfare at the conference which was the main point muted before, now it's the environment they witnessed/experienced that was wrong, i think they flexed the muscles, called the managers and county boards bluff and lost.

If they believe they were genuinely wronged, then unless they speak clear english and come up with specifics that people can understand then they are making themselves look even more foolish.

1951andwaiting (Galway) - Posts: 43 - 18/09/2018 10:15:39    2142377

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Sarah Tierney name checked to highlight this is not a Carnacon thing. hmmmmm?... maybe I am being too cynical

player welfare, unsafe, intimidated, isolated, mental health... Examples please or else lets hear no more about it.

Lets get everyone together with an external and neutral mediator and resolve the issues but can we do it away from a camera and microphone please? We do ourselves no favours in Mayo

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1182 - 18/09/2018 10:25:46    2142380

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As pointed by the girls, 4 who walked out had been selected in the final, but nobody is interested in that fact. This is now the number 1 main news story on rte.ie. Spare us please the "cora was only just reunited with the squad" and would need time to bed in. LOL

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 413 - 18/09/2018 10:53:42    2142396

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Replying To martinjoe:  "As pointed by the girls, 4 who walked out had been selected in the final, but nobody is interested in that fact. This is now the number 1 main news story on rte.ie. Spare us please the "cora was only just reunited with the squad" and would need time to bed in. LOL"
I think they should have just let it blow over they have made themselves look alot worse.

The manager called a girl lazy and they kicked up a fuss thats the only real reason they gave which is embarrassing.

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 392 - 18/09/2018 11:09:29    2142400

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Calling somebody lazy is most definitely not a player welfare issue. Few players took a hump and the rest followed due to either loyalty / pressure / being a sheep

Kingofthehill100 (Mayo) - Posts: 62 - 18/09/2018 11:39:04    2142409

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They posted a lengthy Statement saying nothing at all. They have lost even more credibility with this statement

imonmyway (Mayo) - Posts: 113 - 18/09/2018 12:36:23    2142425

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This bloody saga has run long enough now. Time to have a conclusion probably by an independent body and if guilty then management must go or if the dissenters are wrong then they must be outed and never play for the county again.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 473 - 18/09/2018 18:33:43    2142558

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"We, the Mayo senior ladies panel, believe the time is now right to make a statement regarding events in June and July 2018. On 6 July, eight players were withdrawn by their club without consultation or discussion with their Mayo team colleagues.

"Understandably, we as players were left shocked and saddened by this decision which was taken 10 days before our championship match with Cavan. Another four players, one selector and one backroom staff left following a failed coup which took place at a players meeting two days later.

"To date, we have not been given any reasoning or clarity as to why this course of action was taken. We feel deeply let down and hurt by the actions of those who left our panel.
"We believe that no player welfare issues exist or have ever existed under the current management and categorically disagree with the statement issued in July by the individuals that departed the Mayo senior ladies panel regarding the welfare issues raised.

"We were surprised and disappointed to hear of these issues and if we had witnessed any welfare issues, we would not have hesitated to highlight them to the management.

"It is fair to say that there was considerable upheaval in advance of the Cavan game. This was the biggest game of the year for us and our preparation was distracted.

"We take offence to some of the comments that have been made by certain players over the last few weeks in the media.
"We fully support our management team and as a team believe that all of their decisions and selections were made fairly after careful consideration. We had a fantastic league campaign culminating in a league final appearance in Parnell Park and while the last few months were difficult and disappointing; many new players were given an opportunity to perform at county level.

"Our manager Peter Leahy has shown integrity and honour under tremendous pressure and he has always treated us as elite athletes, has supported and stood strong for us allowing us to play football without fear or intimidation.

"The management set up has been top class with no stone left unturned to make sure we can avail of top level coaching and facilities. The management ethos is focused on teamwork and also on how we as individuals can perform to the highest standard.

"All players are treated with honesty and respect in an environment where generosity and passion for the county are to the fore.
"Ultimately, we want to play football and honour our county jersey and we trust and support our manager, Peter Leahy, and his management team to take the county forward. We always have and always will welcome any player to the panel to help us achieve our goals.

"Mayo Ladies senior football panel would like to thank our management, county board, families, friends, supporters, general public and ultimately our clubs for supporting and trusting us during this difficult time as we strive to bring honour to our county.

"Go raibh míle maith agaibh."

First i have seen of this should end the saga

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 392 - 20/09/2018 13:41:50    2142900

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