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CELTIC CHALLENGE - DOWN U17 HURLERS

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Antrim have just handed Dublin a walkover in the u17 All Ireland semi final...........a couple of months ago when Down questioned what was happening with this the Ulster Council announced that they had made the decision at the CCC that the winners of the Celtic Challenge group stages would go forward to represent Ulster, issue being they never told Down that until the group stages were over!!!

When Down objected they were told there were no grounds for appeal as the Down delegate on CCC agreed, he just didn't tell anyone else including the county secretary......now we have the farce that instead having a chance to play an All Ireland semi final Antrim pull out at last minute denying anyone else the opportunity.....Ulster council are a disgrace

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 677 - 25/07/2017 15:35:54    2023301

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Antrim have just handed Dublin a walkover in the u17 All Ireland semi final...........a couple of months ago when Down questioned what was happening with this the Ulster Council announced that they had made the decision at the CCC that the winners of the Celtic Challenge group stages would go forward to represent Ulster, issue being they never told Down that until the group stages were over!!!

When Down objected they were told there were no grounds for appeal as the Down delegate on CCC agreed, he just didn't tell anyone else including the county secretary......now we have the farce that instead having a chance to play an All Ireland semi final Antrim pull out at last minute denying anyone else the opportunity.....Ulster council are a disgrace"
Disgraceful end to a saga that has been running for months, Antrim should be sanctioned over this.
I thought it was bad last year when Armagh pulled out of an Ulster MHC semi-final on the morning of the match but throwing an All-Ireland semi-final takes the biscuit.

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 549 - 25/07/2017 16:40:48    2023344

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Shocking decision on every level. Perhaps Croke Park will see that Antrim are the problem rather than the solution in Ulster and start committing resources to Down rather than focusing on Antrim hurling.

Profit1 (Antrim) - Posts: 37 - 25/07/2017 22:18:05    2023520

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Unbelievable !!

Frank Mitchell (Down) - Posts: 1057 - 26/07/2017 07:48:00    2023624

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Replying To Profit1:  "Shocking decision on every level. Perhaps Croke Park will see that Antrim are the problem rather than the solution in Ulster and start committing resources to Down rather than focusing on Antrim hurling."
As per Paudie's comments, we're no better Profit1 I'm sad to say.

Our executive barring the very odd exception like your man Walsh from Dundrum don't give a toss about hurling either side of the water.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 26/07/2017 08:56:49    2023641

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Think the county delegate has a lot to anwser for i would asume that he/she is from a footballing club and i'm led to believe that the same person lost the minors home advantage v Antrim by toosing for the venue this is where the problem lies

trueport (Down) - Posts: 26 - 26/07/2017 09:07:34    2023647

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Are we still in it?

Read on another site that we played illegal players!

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 17/04/2018 09:53:11    2093457

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Replying To bricktop:  "Are we still in it?

Read on another site that we played illegal players!"
illegal how, too old or too young?

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 549 - 17/04/2018 10:52:24    2093470

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Replying To downredhand:  "illegal how, too old or too young?"
We're allegedly a tier 1 county and like all tier 1 counties cannot play an U17 who will be involved in the Leinster championship proper.

We played our full team in the grading rounds in Ulster and allegedly some other counties have kicked up about it. Antrim played an U16 team.

Hopefully this young manager doing his best isn't censured from what is probably a genuine mistake.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 17/04/2018 12:08:11    2093491

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Replying To bricktop:  "We're allegedly a tier 1 county and like all tier 1 counties cannot play an U17 who will be involved in the Leinster championship proper.

We played our full team in the grading rounds in Ulster and allegedly some other counties have kicked up about it. Antrim played an U16 team.

Hopefully this young manager doing his best isn't censured from what is probably a genuine mistake."
okay so operating to a different set of rules than the previous 2 years when we weren't playing in the Leinster Championship

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 549 - 17/04/2018 13:14:49    2093525

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Replying To bricktop:  "We're allegedly a tier 1 county and like all tier 1 counties cannot play an U17 who will be involved in the Leinster championship proper.

We played our full team in the grading rounds in Ulster and allegedly some other counties have kicked up about it. Antrim played an U16 team.

Hopefully this young manager doing his best isn't censured from what is probably a genuine mistake."
To be fair treating Down the same as Antrim, Kilkenny, Dublin, Galway etc is a joke......all those counties have 3-5 times the number of hurling clubs as Down.......I would doubt Down could even field two separate teams at u17, one team would have to be all u16(u15s not allowed in Celtic Challenge)" not sure we could do that with our numbers

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 677 - 17/04/2018 15:07:43    2093579

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "To be fair treating Down the same as Antrim, Kilkenny, Dublin, Galway etc is a joke......all those counties have 3-5 times the number of hurling clubs as Down.......I would doubt Down could even field two separate teams at u17, one team would have to be all u16(u15s not allowed in Celtic Challenge)" not sure we could do that with our numbers"
Well Tier 1 status aside, I've noticed at least one U-15 togged out in the team pics from the games so far, maybe the young manager needs a bit more help on the Admin side of things

downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 549 - 17/04/2018 15:41:47    2093594

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Replying To downredhand:  "Well Tier 1 status aside, I've noticed at least one U-15 togged out in the team pics from the games so far, maybe the young manager needs a bit more help on the Admin side of things"
Keepers seems to be a problem in Down hurling in general.

I see we must still be in with a shout of the Celtic League...

Trial game for those in their last year at U16 and first year at club minor (U17) in Downpatrick tonight, at 7pm sharp.

Hard to beat a bit of notice.

Panic, what panic?????

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 19/04/2018 11:55:02    2093933

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Replying To Profit1:  "Shocking decision on every level. Perhaps Croke Park will see that Antrim are the problem rather than the solution in Ulster and start committing resources to Down rather than focusing on Antrim hurling."
Best post on any site ever!!!!!! They are just the spoilt child at this stage. They want want want want and give nothing. Sure now they have stopped hurling for everyone for 6 weeks too. In the middle of the summer. Madness!!!

In_da_ditch (UK) - Posts: 138 - 23/04/2018 08:18:18    2094416

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Replying To In_da_ditch:  "Best post on any site ever!!!!!! They are just the spoilt child at this stage. They want want want want and give nothing. Sure now they have stopped hurling for everyone for 6 weeks too. In the middle of the summer. Madness!!!"
A tad unfair.

If you want to go and set up your own league then go ahead.

At the same time I think we shouldn't hold our breath on sweeping improvements with the new money pumped into the GAA in Belfast. I think Bredagh and Carryduff are going to learn how accountancy works in West Belfast and it won't trickle into the south side of the Lagan any time soon.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 23/04/2018 13:14:51    2094491

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I heard Bredagh were getting 2 full size flood lite pitches out of it. One of them 4G. Carryduff is outside the Belfast Council area so I can't see them benifiting.

Frank Mitchell (Down) - Posts: 1057 - 23/04/2018 16:04:51    2094557

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Replying To Frank Mitchell:  "I heard Bredagh were getting 2 full size flood lite pitches out of it. One of them 4G. Carryduff is outside the Belfast Council area so I can't see them benifiting."
Nothing to do with the Croke Park money, that's Belfast City council who'll own that and Bredagh will rent accordingly is what I'm being told.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 23/04/2018 16:26:24    2094564

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Don't think so. GAA & City Council both putting money in.

Frank Mitchell (Down) - Posts: 1057 - 24/04/2018 09:59:28    2094684

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Replying To Frank Mitchell:  "Don't think so. GAA & City Council both putting money in."
No GAA money going into it.

Belfast City Council will own both pitches and they're available to book by any club, rugby, soccer, hockey or whoever;

GAA don't put money into council facilities unless there's a change of ownership and that's not happening;

https://www.facebook.com/belfastcitycouncil/photos/a.385721707012.162693.91985617012/10155336754542013/?type=3&theater


FYI,
Pitches are too small for senior hurling, only 130 metres long.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 24/04/2018 13:27:02    2094742

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Replying To bricktop:  "No GAA money going into it.

Belfast City Council will own both pitches and they're available to book by any club, rugby, soccer, hockey or whoever;

GAA don't put money into council facilities unless there's a change of ownership and that's not happening;

https://www.facebook.com/belfastcitycouncil/photos/a.385721707012.162693.91985617012/10155336754542013/?type=3&theater


FYI,
Pitches are too small for senior hurling, only 130 metres long."
Edit;
GAA put in £1M of a £150M project to update Cliftonville, Woodlands, Ormeau Park, Cherryvale and Falls park and I'd suggest a few others.

Like I said, they're multisports grounds maintained and booked via Belfast City Council.

Pity the pitches are too small for adult games.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2308 - 24/04/2018 14:29:48    2094751

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