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Mcstay and Cian O'neill wouldn't come near the job with a barge pole.

What do you base that on Daytona ? I think both would definitely have an interest in it for what it's worth but unlikely to be good time for O'Neill at the moment

JJ1 (Kildare) - Posts: 541 - 29/08/2015 20:46:37    1777839


Any suggestions yourself Daytona? ? The rest of us haven't a clue!

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1613 - 29/08/2015 20:53:22    1777840


It's funny Daytona, the last you talked about why nobody would be interested in the job, I explained why they might be & you ignored my points completely and here you are again...

So tell me, if McStay wants to get into inter county management for 2016 (I've no idea if he does or not) name me all the jobs that are available that are so much more attractive than the Kildare one.......

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 592 - 30/08/2015 08:29:38    1777863


McStay will probaly take over Roscommon along with Liam McHale.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2023 - 30/08/2015 10:58:38    1777880


Roscommon for one. The man is on a good gig on the sunday game, more than likely he'd want job in Division 1 or 2 with a better pedigree of player we'd have. Also the cloud cuckoo land expectations that a lot of our supporters have probably won't entice a manager to take over a poor enough team under that kind of pressure.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3684 - 30/08/2015 11:47:17    1777893


I'd have a chat with John Evans myself. I think he has a good record with Tipp managing young players and bringing them through. I think we need to give the new man time to settle things a bit. We should get promoted but it's not a given either. It's rare enough that you'll see minor and u21 players making an immediate impact at senior level so this has to be in mind.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3684 - 30/08/2015 11:49:42    1777895


John Evan's would be my choice full stop.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 31/08/2015 13:46:10    1778958


I'm not sure about Evans, it seemed to be a bit hot or cold with Roscommon this year, great league but terrible Championship.

AnFearBan (Kildare) - Posts: 30 - 31/08/2015 15:18:34    1779082


It's just that I feel strongly in favour of John Evans for a couple of reasons, by Tipperary's standards and where they were at, at the time he was very successful with them, he left them in a very healthy state for the next management team to build on.
As far as I am aware he went to Meath then (short term) in an advisory role, on then to Roscommon at a time when they were in disarray, league wise he achieved a lot but the championship let him down, so the knives were then out.
In his own words in a recent article, he says he is determined to get back into management, John Evans, Cian O'Neill and Brian Murphy would be ideal imo.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 31/08/2015 18:00:09    1779274


John Evans as a serious contender for manager? This is why the county board should listen to nobody on this thread.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1101 - 31/08/2015 20:38:04    1779429


Roscommon were blown up to be contenders but not by their manager. it needs to be someone with nerve to show some of the longer servants the door and wish them well.

dubya (Kildare) - Posts: 423 - 31/08/2015 21:08:37    1779461


You could make a case for Roscommon daytona but it would be marginal. The only counties with clearly, inarguably, superior players than ours are the big guys - of whom only Cork are looking for a new manager. (& that seems a foregone conclusion)
Kildare's is the best job out there this year, or very close to it anyway.

I like Evans too. Not saying he'd be first choice but I think he'd do a good job. He'd bring passion anyway, something I think we were missing under Ryan.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 592 - 31/08/2015 21:11:43    1779466


" Kildare's is the best job out there this year, or very close to it anyway" Really kildarekelly?

Based on what? Talented young lads? Are they that talented and it is simply a case of them being mismanaged? While I agree that there are very few genuinely attractive jobs out there and we could be considered on of the better options , they are still so many reasons to avoid Kildare- debt, average club scene, no history of producing decent forwards, Dubs dominant in leinster, div 3 football, young lads choosing Oz and America ahead of football, unrealistic expectations from fans, the list goes on. We are as far from winning leinster as we are from an AI so a manager might only hope to attempt to get us into div 1 and have a decent qualifier run, we might be a stepping stone to a bigger job for somebody.

That said, the only way is up and there are people out there crazy enough to take it on!

switec (Kildare) - Posts: 525 - 01/09/2015 10:36:24    1779636


Based on exactly what you've said switec : that there 'are very few genuinely attractive jobs out there'. I'm unsure why you're asking me what it's based on & then providing the answer & completely agreeing with me !
I've never denied there are issues but it's this whole 'sure who would take it on' argument that baffles me. As if aspiring managers out there can turn their nose up at Kildare given the massive choice of jobs with All-Ireland winning potential they have to pick from ! The vast majority of those arguments you could apply to every county out there bar the best sides & none of them are in the market for a manager....

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 592 - 01/09/2015 11:44:48    1779722


I think we could be in for a long and drawn out affair,

For me any manager with a successful track record in either intercounty or winning all ireland club championships will weigh up the reasons switec has mentioned.

McStay, I would guess is financially out of our reach anyway.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3684 - 01/09/2015 15:02:43    1779954


Don't like Evans, he's from the old school like meself, a punch the table merchant. Ciaran Whelan is the way forward, he'll make a great manager someday!

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1143 - 01/09/2015 21:20:03    1780289


looks likely to be glenn ryan but who knows. hope he is the one.

mickmoore (Kildare) - Posts: 326 - 02/09/2015 14:12:09    1780638


I have great respect for what Glenn achieved as a player with Kildare but I wouldn't like to see him getting the job.

Yes, Ciaran Whelan could be interesting. A bit more analytical etc.#

I mean, we can talk about Glen being an inspiration all we want, but how many of the current panel will actually remember 98 and 00? Very few I think.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3684 - 02/09/2015 15:58:03    1780744


Ciaran Whelan? What experience does he have? We would be far better off going with a passionate Kildare man like Dermot, Johnny or Ronan if we appointed a rookie manager.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 02/09/2015 16:16:36    1780761


No we wouldn't. Sometimes the emotion needs to be taken out of decisions like this.

I don't think we should go for a rookie anyway.

Evans/Sheedy/o'Flaharta. That's probably who's be interested in Kildare.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3684 - 02/09/2015 16:42:56    1780790